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    Suffrage Problems

    So I started a game as Belgium, where I encouraged Liberals for a while, and then when they got out of hand I began encouraging a lot more Conservatives/reactionaries.

    The problem is though, is that its 1856, and my people are already demanding Universal suffrage!?! The fact that Universal suffrage did not come to even the most advanced liberal democracies until the end of the century, points to the fact that political reform demands are outrageous! Right after I pass the Weighted Universal reform, the people are already demanding Universal voting!? They haven't asked for ANYTHING else, except for change in Suffrage (no social reforms either). Something needs to change, I'm not sure what, but I'm sure the mod developers would know what to change.

    Also is it just me, or are there WAYY too many Communist/Fascist rebellions succeeding, way too early. Heck the first Communist revolution was in Russia 1917 and the first fascist government was in Italy (where it was founded) in 1920. In PDM though you have Fascist and Communist government way before the turn of the century. Personally Fascism should only appear as a political party until after the Great War has finished, or when Great Wars have been activated. Perhaps 1900 should allow Communist and Fascist political parties to begin pushing for demands.

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    You're not able to encourage ideologies, only party loyalty. So basically, you can change their lower house vote, but their ideology remains their own.
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    With regards to communist revolutions, the Paris Commune was started during the Franco-Prussian war...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naselus View Post
    You're not able to encourage ideologies, only party loyalty. So basically, you can change their lower house vote, but their ideology remains their own.
    Yes your right, I could do "encourage conservative party", but that would take SUCH a long time to make it useful, all the while wasting much needed focus points for Belgium. I mean, can't Liberals be satisfied with what gains they have made for 10-20 years, before making another suffrage demand. Or rather can't you have them demand some other form of political reform? It just doesn't seem right, that Belgium becomes a universal democracy in the first ~24 years of the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhetone View Post
    With regards to communist revolutions, the Paris Commune was started during the Franco-Prussian war...
    I don't think they ever used the word "Communist" during their rebellion, in fact I think they were more closely aligned with Anarcho-Liberals. Although yes there were Communists, there were also liberals and socialists, so overall I would more liken the Paris Commune (and the other communes that sprung up across the country), to Anarcho-Liberal form of government. But you do have a good point, as in my last game I saw a Jacobin uprising kick Napoleon III's Absolute Monarchy out of France. Lets say instead, you had the Paris Commune spring up, as a special type of Rebel, that captured Paris and other cities (can't remember all of them), but did not move from those city locations, and had a lot of followers and perhaps extra defense. Perhaps it should be triggered IF France loses the Franco-Prussian War. That would be very interesting...

    Also I'm pretty sure the Paris Commune only began after the Prussians left Paris as Germans, during their brief stay, and left a power vacuum in the city, which created the conditions for the communards to take over.
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