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War, War, what is it good for? Mainly getting rid of boredom......
I wonder how often this served as the rationale for war in real life. :)

So, are the casualty numbers you're listing from turn 192 onwards, for Russia, Turkey, the US and Italy because they are at war, or are you just keeping a tally of the Major Powers/Interesting Places (i.e. China)?
 
I wonder how often this served as the rationale for war in real life. :)

So, are the casualty numbers you're listing from turn 192 onwards, for Russia, Turkey, the US and Italy because they are at war, or are you just keeping a tally of the Major Powers/Interesting Places (i.e. China)?

Just keeping a tally, the only current wars are Taiping and Persia.
 
Second quarter 1858

History:
War, War, what is it good for? Mainly getting rid of boredom......
1. 1852 Burma, conquered in less than 9 months.
2. 1852 Taiping war, never ending.....
3. 1856 SAR, conquered but un-bowed. I gained two provinces of veldt.
4. 1856 Persian war, not sure what happened but peace has been agreed, I gained nothing.
5. 1856 Indian mutiny, swathes of northern India in flames, troops rushed from all over the empire. Marching on Delhi and then they surrendered, so it is all back to business as usual.
6. 1856 Central asian rebellion, lost 50k troops in disaster at Kashgar, have only managed to occupy one province.
7. 1857 Tibetan triangle, have occupied several mountainous provinces then been moved back by a mysterious force.
8. 1857 Franco-Prussian, France advanced taking two provinces at terrible cost, then there was peace and they gave the two provinces back.
Only current war is Taiping.

Quarter highlights:
Continued to lay down the strategic railroad to link Indian bases to the Russian, Chinese and Persian borders
Moved forces up to the border with China and Hong Kong.
Peace with Persia, I gained nothing, not sure what happened here?

My Plans:
Short
Persia war.
Central Asia build a depot network to create a path around the himilayas.
Medium
Exploring Africa
Create strategic railway to link bases in India to Chinese, Russian and Persian borders.
Long
Continue to pump out naval demonstrations and geographical expeditions and asking native chiefs to cede to gain PP's.
Develop the economy.
Improve relations with foreigners.
Add new colonies.
Expand into central asia to forestall russia

Actions by turn:
198. 2 x demo, 2 x bribe, 1 x geog
199. 2 x demo, 10 x school, 4 x mission, 1 x explore,
200. 2 x demo, 1 x dominion, 1 x merch, 2 x ceded, 1 x explore, 1 x colony,
201.
202.
203. 2 x demo, 2 x merch, 1 x protectorate

Key:
Brig is short for brigade
TP for trade-post
merch for Merchant
demo for Naval demo (cost 20 money get 20 PP)
geog Geographical Expedition (cost 125 capital get 100 PP)
PP prestige points
Number after province means increase of colonial pentration
Province on own under colonial means gained in size of city

Results by turn:
199. Event:irish republican brotherhood founded, aukland +12, montreal +8, chechen, tukulor, burmese, sumatra, papuan, malay, ; Battle:; Movement:samarkand, accra, katmandu, ; New unit:2 x RR; Control:depot putao, ; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:670; Colony:persia peace, 2 x demo, mission kuchka, ashgabat, kyzilkum, kyzilorda, cede hawaii, school udiapur, patan, karachi, umarkot, indore, bhopal, hoshangabad, rewah, raighar, bilaspur, austria tele osterreich, ostungarn, usa colonists cascades, portugal tele goa, ;
200. Event:palmerston resigns, toronto +9, kazahk, masai, annamite, omanese, austria state bonds, RR la mancha, francken,; Battle:; Movement:ghaydah; New unit:gold; Control:; System:trans supplies; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:674; Colony:persia peace rejected, explore failed sharawrah, 2 x demo, cede samoa, khiva, dominion kaapstadt, merch failed solomons, france miss comoros, russia tele omsk, italy merch berbera, ;
201. Event:germany medal, ; Battle:; Movement:biafra; New unit:2 x RR, mission kuchka, ashgabat, kyzilkum, kyzilorda, cede hawaii, school udiapur, patan, karachi, umarkot, indore, bhopal, hoshangabad, rewah, raighar, bilaspur, ; Control:kuala lumpur; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:675; Colony:prussia defensive saxony, france state haiti, merch wadani, 2 x demo, bribe destroyed yarkand, bribes hotan, tarim, marshalls, gilbert, marianas, solomons, tahiti, explore lokoja, protectorate kuala lumpur, france ceded kayes, sindhia 9, ;
202. Event:; Battle:; Movement:; New unit:; Control:; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:; Sold:0; Colony:;
203. Event:khazahk, nguni, sumatra, melanesian,; Battle:baluchistan 153/250 won, ; Movement:; New unit:consulate kuala lumpur; Control:khiva, rebels puerto cabezas; System:moved out of persia; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:672; Colony:austria state wurtembourg, persia peace, explored marssanit, protectorate khiva, italy miss triploitania, portugal miss luanda, ;
204. Event:masia, RR rio de janeiro,; Battle:puerto cabezas 615/922 won,; Movement:dubai; New unit:2 x opium, completed mission trucial,; Control:; System:trans supplies, mastered helath spas; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:669; Colony:merch sennar, khartoum, explore failed makurdi, natrual failed morogoro, 2 x demo, bribes karakum, roads fiji, biafra, kuchka, tele ghazni, kabul, colonsists, herat, farrah, kandahar, geog kilwa, france colonists algeria, spain tele canrias, ;

Notes:
1. Still buying merchant ship replacements.
2. Miner rebellion in Melbourne, sent brigade there. The option has not disapeared?
3. There is a large swathe of central asia held by rebels, have now given up as every time I get into a province I am moved out again.
4. Peace with Transvaal gave me two border provinces, cannot get Pretoria until the next time.
5. Persia has now got peace with no losses?
6. Making a grab for the pacific islands as they look easy. Slapped protectorate on Hawaii.

Progress:
Gained 1199 PP in quarter, target grew by 1120; to date 34328 against 33380. So will achieve target in -12 quarters. Victory by prestige points in 16 quarters.
France is now second again.

Position Summary:
Have added 143 economic structures, 5 merchant fleets and 59 railroads, total is207; my target of one per turn is 204.
Satisfaction shown on the B screen is now 99%. Militancy 1%, Education 96%.
The value of my stocks is 33101; previous quarter 28636.

Navy Board:
Develop bases across the world.
Won first naval battle off the Arakan Coast.
Battles Win Loss Draw
Number 1
Casualties 0 76
Fleets: 2 transport fleets

Army board:
Comparison of combat power with Russia started at 116 and has now moved to 67. So now strongest.
Battles Win Loss Draw
Number 71 11 10
Casualties 154434 101824
% win 77%
Loss per battle 1679 1107 52%
Start of quarter needed 159 hits replaced, end of quarter 192. One class of ship is the main problem merchants (149).
199.
200.
201.
202.
203. baluchistan 153/250 won,
204. puerto cabezas 615/922 won,

Trade board:
Increase satisfaction % and number of goods sold to national and colonial markets.
At the start satisfaction gain 59% goods sold 672, by the end 54% and 669.
Delivering 51% of luxuries.

Colonial office:
Establish more colonies and protectorates
Develop provinces in colonies
Gain maximum prestige points
dominion kaapstadt, protectorate kuala lumpur, protectorate khiva,
explored marssanit, geog kilwa,

Foreign office:
Develop good relations with friends.
Ensure key allies are protected
Relations France(39), Prussia(17), Austria(43), US(100), Russia(11), Japan(18), Italy(20), Turkey(100), China(-54), Belgium(39), Denmark(49), Greece(45), Netherlands(45), Portugal(43), Spain(31), Sweden(30), Argentina (4), Brazil(47), Chile(41), Colombia (5), Venezuala (4)
Relations France(40), Prussia(12), Austria(39), US(100), Russia(10), Japan(19), Italy(19), Turkey(100), China(-46), Belgium(40), Denmark(49), Greece(43), Netherlands(44), Portugal(43), Spain(31), Sweden(32), Argentina (4), Brazil(48), Chile(43), Colombia (7), Venezuala (10)
10 overall gain over 21 countries. China has disappeared from the F10 screen, I have really upset them.

Taiping war:
36. China 6k casualties, taiping war started 6k
42. China 63k casualties 57k
48. China 78k casualties 15k
54. China 90k casualties 12k
60. China 166k casualties 76k
66. China 238k casualties 72k
72. China 246k casualties 8k
78. China 264k casualties 18k
84. China 271k casualties 7k
90. China 271k casualties 0k
96. China 281k casualties 10k
102. China 284k casualties 3k
108. China 317k casualties 33k
114. China 324k casualties 7k
120. China 331k casualties 7k
126. China 352k casualties 21k
132. China 371k casualties 19k
138. China 394k casualties 23k
144. China 397k casualties 3k
150. China 398k casualties 1k
156. China 399k casualties 1k
162. China 430k casualties 31k
168. China 434k casualties 4k
174.
180.
186.
192. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 91k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
198. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 96k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
204. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 96k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;

The list:
1. Rebellious colonists
8. Duala, forgot about this too.
12. Tibet
13. Defense treaty Sweden
15. Defense treaty Prussia
16. Defense treaty Austria
17. China, for forging a CB
18. Lagos, forgot this is an objective
 
all seems to have gone quiet. Odd about your lack of gains in Persia - not in your sphere?

also seems as if the prestige victory is never quite coming much closer, seems to hover just over the horizon, achievable but illusive?

Indeed Persia was odd, I seem to have lost a couple of turns when something happened.

Also, the ellusive prestige victory is slowly getting closer, 1,252 points behind, my average gain is about 250, so 5 quarters.
 
Third Quarter 1858

Third quarter 1858

History:
War, War, what is it good for? Mainly getting rid of boredom......
1. 1852 Burma, conquered in less than 9 months.
2. 1852 Taiping war, never ending.....
3. 1856 SAR, conquered but un-bowed. I gained two provinces of veldt.
4. 1856 Persian war, not sure what happened but peace has been agreed, I gained nothing.
5. 1856 Indian mutiny, swathes of northern India in flames, troops rushed from all over the empire. Marching on Delhi and then they surrendered, so it is all back to business as usual.
6. 1856 Central asian rebellion, lost 50k troops in disaster at Kashgar, have only managed to occupy one province.
7. 1857 Tibetan triangle, have occupied several mountainous provinces then been moved back by a mysterious force.
8. 1857 Franco-Prussian, France advanced taking two provinces at terrible cost, then there was peace and they gave the two provinces back.
Only current war is Taiping.

Quarter highlights:
Continued to lay down the strategic railroad to link Indian bases to the Russian, Chinese and Persian borders
Moved forces up to the border with China and Hong Kong.
Muzzle loading rifles discovered, this has caused a need for nearly 2k replacements, on hold until this is resolved.

My Plans:
Short
Move troops to threaten China.
Medium
Exploring Africa
Create strategic railway to link bases in India to Chinese, Russian and Persian borders.
Long
Continue to pump out naval demonstrations and geographical expeditions and asking native chiefs to cede to gain PP's.
Develop the economy.
Improve relations with foreigners.
Add new colonies.
Expand into central asia to forestall russia

Actions by turn:
204. 2 x demo, 1 x natural, 1 x geog, 10 x bribe, 1 x protectorate, 2 x tele, 3 x colonists,
205. 2 x demo, 15 x outpost, 2 x merch, 1 x cede
206. 2 x demo,
207. 2 x demo, 10 x school, 1 x merch
208. 2 x demo
209. 2 x demo, 1 x mission, 1 x explore

Key:
Brig is short for brigade
TP for trade-post
merch for Merchant
demo for Naval demo (cost 20 money get 20 PP)
geog Geographical Expedition (cost 125 capital get 100 PP)
PP prestige points
Number after province means increase of colonial pentration
Province on own under colonial means gained in size of city

Results by turn:
205. Event:melbourne +6; Battle:; Movement:putao, karachi, dubai; New unit:eek:pium, anchorage, completed consulate khiva, RR aurangabad, gulbarga, gold kelowna,; Control:; System:mastered muzzle loading rifles; Trade:cotton trivandrum,; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:710; Colony:kabul, ghazni, multan, srinagar, jodhpur, patna, trivandrum, madura, sambalpur, rajshan, hong kong, kingston, city korugh, nasik, cuttack, 2 x demo, geog failed kilwa, mission hadramut, mukalla, taiz, aden, cede karakum, merch failed kanbara, hayya, france supress algeria, austria tele kleinpolen, usa tele cascades, russia merch bokhara, russia colonists irkutsk, rebels balikesir joined turkey, zanzibar 4, tasmania 8;
206. Event:appache; Battle:; Movement:huluf; New unit:453 x trained; Control:depot dubai; System:trans supplies; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:707; Colony:nguni, austria state prussia, merch berber, lokoja, geog failed kilwa, 2 x demo, cede gilbert, solomons, explored sharawrah, france tele antilles, ;
207. Event:retire hardinge, simpson, smith, gomm, cochrane, new napier, keppel, shipbuilding on progress,; Battle:; Movement:dubai, mafia island, kaapstadt; New unit:9 x trained, completed corps midlands, EM, mission mukalla, aden, taiz, hadramut, RR nagpur, gaya, kurnool; Control:; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:705; Colony:state expired usa lasting, merch bamenda, 2 x demo, geog failed morogoro, school lahore, panipat, bahawalapur, bikaner, jainalmer, jodhpur, jaipur, agra, gwalior, jumla, france cede kayes, usa merch inland northwest, russia supress agtau, rebels imperial joined usa, british guyana 8, udiapur 9;
208. Event:sioux, cherokee, nez perce, germany sewers; Battle:; Movement:baluchistan; New unit:2 x tropical, completed corps munster, anchorage fiji; Control:annex 969 money and 2 elements; System:trans supplies; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:707; Colony:hannover local prussia, state expired prussia lasting, merch bafoussam, merch failed bafoussam, geog failed marssabit, 2 x demo, colony zanzibar, geog bamenda, usa contest hawaii, spain roads guam, ;
209. Event:usa premium bill, france referendum; Battle:; Movement:trucial, dubai, merv, ibadan, qatif; New unit:2 x RR, anchorage, exploit, completed school lahore, panipat, bahawalapur, bikaner, jainalmer, jodhpur, jaipur, agra, gwalior, jumla, RR bangalore,; Control:; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:706; Colony:holstein state denmark, usa state, peace expired SAR, merch wadihalfa, geog filed marssabit, 2 x demo, mission sanaa, explored wajir, usa outpost concil buffs, spain merch mindoro, ;
210. Event:british columbia, nez perce, sumatra, korea, troops, germany rejected urban transportation,; Battle:; Movement:baluchistan, karachi, nairobi, sofala,; New unit:20 x trained, governor zanzibar, RR gauhafi,; Control:; System:trans supplies; Trade:124 upaid; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:707; Colony:usa state agreed, explore failed bussa, geog failed marssabit, 2 x demo, outpost sarawak, biafra, almaty, karyn, bishkek, kokand, tashkent, shymkent, samarkand, kulab, qarshi, bokhara, merv, kuchka, fiji, bribe marianas, tahiti, marshalls, solomons, vanuatau, abomey, gabon, walvis, hotan, tarim, geog nakuru, france tele cayenne, dubai 6,;

Notes:
1. Still buying merchant ship replacements.
2. Miner rebellion in Melbourne, sent brigade there. The option has not disapeared?
3. There is a large swathe of central asia held by rebels, have now given up as every time I get into a province I am moved out again.
4. Peace with Transvaal gave me two border provinces, cannot get Pretoria until the next time.
5. Persia has now got peace with no losses?
6. Making a grab for the pacific islands as they look easy. Slapped protectorate on Hawaii.
7. Massive replacement requirement after discovering muzzle loading rifles.

Progress:
Gained 1377 PP in quarter, target grew by 1000; to date 36705 against 37580. So will achieve target in -4 quarters. Victory by prestige points in 2 quarters.
France is now second again.

Position Summary:
Have added 146 economic structures, 5 merchant fleets and 61 railroads, total is 212; my target of one per turn is 210.
Satisfaction shown on the B screen is now 97%. Militancy 0%, Education 95%.
The value of my stocks is 34391; previous quarter 33101.

Navy Board:
Develop bases across the world.
Won first naval battle off the Arakan Coast.
Battles Win Loss Draw
Number 1
Casualties 0 76
Fleets: 2 transport fleets

Army board:
Comparison of combat power with Russia started at 116 and has now moved to 67. So now strongest.
Battles Win Loss Draw
Number 71 11 10
Casualties 154434 101824
% win 77%
Loss per battle 1679 1107 52%
Start of quarter needed 1,919 hits replaced, end of quarter 159. Muzzle loading rifles discovered.
205.
206.
207.
208.
209.
210.

Trade board:
Increase satisfaction % and number of goods sold to national and colonial markets.
At the start satisfaction gain 54% goods sold 669, by the end 54% and 707.
Delivering 48% of luxuries.

Colonial office:
Establish more colonies and protectorates
Develop provinces in colonies
Gain maximum prestige points
colony zanzibar
explored sharawrah, geog bamenda, geog nakuru,
usa contest hawaii,

Foreign office:
Develop good relations with friends.
Ensure key allies are protected
Relations France(40), Prussia(12), Austria(39), US(100), Russia(10), Japan(19), Italy(19), Turkey(100), China(-46), Belgium(40), Denmark(49), Greece(43), Netherlands(44), Portugal(43), Spain(31), Sweden(32), Argentina (4), Brazil(48), Chile(43), Colombia (7), Venezuala (10)
Relations France(39), Prussia(14), Austria(36), US(100), Russia(7), Japan(21), Italy(16), Turkey(100), China(-24), Belgium(36, Denmark(50), Greece(43), Netherlands(42), Portugal(40), Spain(32), Sweden(32), Argentina (7), Brazil(49), Chile(41), Colombia (10), Venezuala (10)
16 overall gain over 21 countries. China has appeared on the F10 screen.

Taiping war:
36. China 6k casualties, taiping war started 6k
42. China 63k casualties 57k
48. China 78k casualties 15k
54. China 90k casualties 12k
60. China 166k casualties 76k
66. China 238k casualties 72k
72. China 246k casualties 8k
78. China 264k casualties 18k
84. China 271k casualties 7k
90. China 271k casualties 0k
96. China 281k casualties 10k
102. China 284k casualties 3k
108. China 317k casualties 33k
114. China 324k casualties 7k
120. China 331k casualties 7k
126. China 352k casualties 21k
132. China 371k casualties 19k
138. China 394k casualties 23k
144. China 397k casualties 3k
150. China 398k casualties 1k
156. China 399k casualties 1k
162. China 430k casualties 31k
168. China 434k casualties 4k
174.
180.
186.
192. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 91k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
198. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 96k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
204. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 96k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
210. China 491k; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 55k; Turkey 100k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;

The list:
1. Rebellious colonists
8. Duala, forgot about this too.
12. Tibet
13. Defense treaty Sweden
15. Defense treaty Prussia
16. Defense treaty Austria
17. China, for forging a CB
18. Lagos, forgot this is an objective
 
Question about your previous update, regarding the battle of Puerto Cabezas. I had to look it up, but it appears to be in Nicaragua. Is that a colony of yours and did you just have to teach some restless natives a lesson, or what exactly happened there to cause a battle to occur?

With regards to your latest update, I'm impressed that you managed to replace 1750 hits in a quarter. Very different experience from the one loki is having with S-P, but then I guess that manpower isn't anywhere near as limited with the British Empire.
 
Question about your previous update, regarding the battle of Puerto Cabezas. I had to look it up, but it appears to be in Nicaragua. Is that a colony of yours and did you just have to teach some restless natives a lesson, or what exactly happened there to cause a battle to occur?

With regards to your latest update, I'm impressed that you managed to replace 1750 hits in a quarter. Very different experience from the one loki is having with S-P, but then I guess that manpower isn't anywhere near as limited with the British Empire.

Yes, at the start of 1850 the British Empire holds this strange place on the coast, not sure what happened in real life, but what we have we hold.... The men in skirts were sent there in early 1850 and have been there ever since. I think there have been two rebellions so far.

I haven't replaced the hits yet, they seem to have been caused by upgrading to muzzle loading rifles. Based on the post Burma war experience I replaced 3,000 hits in about 6 quarters, so I guess my capacity is about 500 a quarter.

At least this time the strength of units has risen by about 30%.
 
Any idea what in particular made those battles in Central Asia so disastrous? It seems unlikely that their troops were of better quality, so why the bloodbath of the redcoats?

Yes, overconfidence, I noticed they had some infantry and a large fort battery and thought no more, I guess because the battle was fought in mountains the frontage would have been very narrow and their guns had a field day slaughtering my columns as they trundled up the pass.

Moving in mountains cost a LOT of cohesion. So, if you were on the offensive and moving into enemy territory, your forces probably started with decreased cohesion, which, in turn, effects combat power.

Further, you may want to check the battle report screen. Some of tribal nations have quite high discipline value, so in close range combat (assault, I think) they are not secondary to European style regulars.
 
Moving in mountains cost a LOT of cohesion. So, if you were on the offensive and moving into enemy territory, your forces probably started with decreased cohesion, which, in turn, effects combat power.

Further, you may want to check the battle report screen. Some of tribal nations have quite high discipline value, so in close range combat (assault, I think) they are not secondary to European style regulars.

Correct, they had discipline 8, mine had 7. Also, the main losses were suffered in the shooting rounds and my cohesion had fallen away.
 
Fourth Quarter 1858

Fourth quarter 1858

History:
War, War, what is it good for? Mainly getting rid of boredom......
1. 1852 Burma, conquered in less than 9 months.
2. 1852 Taiping war, never ending.....
3. 1856 SAR, conquered but un-bowed. I gained two provinces of veldt.
4. 1856 Persian war, not sure what happened but peace has been agreed, I gained nothing.
5. 1856 Indian mutiny, swathes of northern India in flames, troops rushed from all over the empire. Marching on Delhi and then they surrendered, so it is all back to business as usual.
6. 1856 Central asian rebellion, lost 50k troops in disaster at Kashgar, have only managed to occupy one province.
7. 1857 Tibetan triangle, have occupied several mountainous provinces then been moved back by a mysterious force.
8. 1857 Franco-Prussian, France advanced taking two provinces at terrible cost, then there was peace and they gave the two provinces back.
Only current war is Taiping.

Quarter highlights:
Continued to lay down the strategic railroad to link Indian bases to the Russian, Chinese and Persian borders
Moved forces up to the border with China and Hong Kong.
Muzzle loading rifles discovered, this has caused a need for nearly 2k replacements, on hold until this is resolved.

My Plans:
Short
Move troops to threaten China.
Medium
Exploring Africa
Create strategic railway to link bases in India to Chinese, Russian and Persian borders.
Long
Continue to pump out naval demonstrations and geographical expeditions and asking native chiefs to cede to gain PP's.
Develop the economy.
Improve relations with foreigners.
Add new colonies.
Expand into central asia to forestall russia

Actions by turn:
210. 2 x demo, 2 x explore, 1 x geog, 10 x bribe
211. 2 x demo, 1 x explore,
212. 2 x demo, 4 x explore, 15 x outpost, 2 x cede,
213. 2 x demo, 3 x explore,
214. 2 x demo,
215. 2 x demo,

Key:
Brig is short for brigade
TP for trade-post
merch for Merchant
demo for Naval demo (cost 20 money get 20 PP)
geog Geographical Expedition (cost 125 capital get 100 PP)
PP prestige points
Number after province means increase of colonial pentration
Province on own under colonial means gained in size of city

Results by turn:
211. Event:fezzan, nguni, oman,; Battle:; Movement:natal, farrah; New unit:eek:pium, silk,; Control:mission sanaa, explot samarkand, RR peshawar,; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:708; Colony:state expired usa, explore failed rafha, 2 x demo, merch failed wadihalfa, cede kuantan, mission halaban, abha, rub, hoedeida, explored makurdi, explore not valid, merch failed sennar, protectorate hawaii, france outpost reunion, france cede kaolack, netherlands bribe sorong, ;
212. Event:arawak, annamite, malaya, usa rejected medal, germany urban transportation,; Battle:; Movement:karachi, makurdi, ; New unit:30 x trained, cav corps wales, anchorage khiva, outpost sarawak, biafra, almaty, karyn, bishkek, kokand, tashkent, shymkent, samarkand, kulab, qarshi, bokhara, merv, kuchka, fiji, RR kabul, ; Control:; System:trans supplies; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:706; Colony:explore failed rafha, 2 x demo, merch makurdi, bida, explore failed mossurize, cede solomons, khota bharu, explored riyahd, protectorate samoa, dominion bahamas, china merch kuala lumpur, spain supress el rif, jamaica 10,;
213. Event:; Battle:; Movement:karachi, qatar; New unit:eek:pium, 37 x trained , mission halaban, rub, abha, hoedeida, RR ghazni, consulate hawaii,; Control:; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:709; Colony:italy state turkey, usa commercial mexico, 2 x demo, explore failed lodwar, massakesse, abuja, merch berber failed, usa colonists puget sound, turkey merch dayr, ;
214. Event:tonkin, awarwak,usa rejected medal, italy subsidy coal,; Battle:; Movement:trucail, mafia island,; New unit:2 x trained, completed consulate samoa,; Control:; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.52; Sold:711; Colony:saxony local prussia, saxony local austria, merch baiyuda, merch failed baiyuda, explore failed massakesse, abuja, 2 x demo, bribr destroyed hayya, mission not valid qatar, merch failed khartoum, ;
215. Event:usa rejected meadal,; Battle:; Movement:trucial, karachi, kaapstadt; New unit:shipbuilding, mech, RR balkh; Control:; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:708; Colony:denmark mutal holstein, merch rabak, khartum, atabara, mrech failed rabuk, explore failed tukari, sena, 2 x demo, school faizabad, Balkh, herat, farrah, kandahar, ghazni, haka, putao, attock, amritsar, potugal roads cabo verde, portugal colonists bissau, duabi 7, mysore 7, nepal 6,;
216. Event:piedmont on war footing, arawak, usa medal,; Battle:; Movement:lamu, dar-es-salaam,; New unit:7 x fort, shipbuilding, 15 x trained, RR kuchka,; Control:rebels puerto cabezas,; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:708; Colony:sweden state prussia, defensive sweden, austria, france, brazil, chile, local expired colombia, venezuala, argentina, CB expired nicaragua, honduras, merch rabuk, explore failed abuja, massakesse, 2 x demo, mission not valid riyadh, kuwait, qatif, hulut, sharawrah, TP not valid bamenda, lokoja, bribe vanuatu, berber, suakim, massawa, akordat, kanbara, wadani, sennar, khartoum, explored bussa, tele attock, lahore, colonists allahabad, cawnpore, agra, natural suakim, france colonists algeria, usa merch mojave desert, china merch kuala lumpur, ;

Notes:
1. Still buying merchant ship replacements.
2. Miner rebellion in Melbourne, sent brigade there. The option has not disapeared?
3. There is a large swathe of central asia held by rebels, have now given up as every time I get into a province I am moved out again.
4. Peace with Transvaal gave me two border provinces, cannot get Pretoria until the next time.
5. Persia has now got peace with no losses?
6. Making a grab for the pacific islands as they look easy. Slapped protectorate on Hawaii. Discovered most are already claimed or I cannot play a protectorate on them.
7. Massive replacement requirement after discovering muzzle loading rifles.

Progress:
Gained 1299 PP in quarter, target grew by 976; to date 38004 against 38556. So will achieve target in -5 quarters. Victory by prestige points in 2 quarters.
France is now second again.

Position Summary:
Have added 152 economic structures, 5 merchant fleets and 61 railroads, total is 218; my target of one per turn is 216.
Satisfaction shown on the B screen is now 99%. Militancy 1%, Education 95%.
The value of my stocks is 34648; previous quarter 34391.

Navy Board:
Develop bases across the world.
Won first naval battle off the Arakan Coast.
Battles Win Loss Draw
Number 1
Casualties 0 76
Fleets: 2 transport fleets

Army board:
Comparison of combat power with Russia started at 116 and has now moved to 67. So now strongest.
Battles Win Loss Draw
Number 71 11 10
Casualties 154434 101824
% win 77%
Loss per battle 1679 1107 52%
Start of quarter needed 1,919 hits replaced, end of quarter 855. Muzzle loading rifles discovered.
205.
206.
207.
208.
209.
210.

Trade board:
Increase satisfaction % and number of goods sold to national and colonial markets.
At the start satisfaction gain 54% goods sold 707, by the end 54% and 708.
Delivering 49% of luxuries.

Colonial office:
Establish more colonies and protectorates
Develop provinces in colonies
Gain maximum prestige points
protectorate hawaii, protectorate samoa, dominion bahamas,
explored bussa, natural suakim,

Foreign office:
Develop good relations with friends.
Ensure key allies are protected
Relations France(39), Prussia(14), Austria(36), US(100), Russia(7), Japan(21), Italy(16), Turkey(100), China(-24), Belgium(36, Denmark(50), Greece(43), Netherlands(42), Portugal(40), Spain(32), Sweden(32), Argentina (7), Brazil(49), Chile(41), Colombia (10), Venezuala (10)
Relations France(41), Prussia(15), Austria(36), US(100), Russia(7), Japan(22), Italy(15), Turkey(100), China(-4), Belgium(37), Denmark(51), Greece(41), Netherlands(43), Portugal(40), Spain(35), Sweden(31), Argentina (11), Brazil(53), Chile(43), Colombia (10), Venezuala (9)
35 overall gain over 21 countries. China has appeared on the F10 screen.
defensive sweden, austria, france, brazil, chile,
local expired colombia, venezuala, argentina, CB expired nicaragua, honduras,

Taiping war:
36. China 6k casualties, taiping war started 6k
42. China 63k casualties 57k
48. China 78k casualties 15k
54. China 90k casualties 12k
60. China 166k casualties 76k
66. China 238k casualties 72k
72. China 246k casualties 8k
78. China 264k casualties 18k
84. China 271k casualties 7k
90. China 271k casualties 0k
96. China 281k casualties 10k
102. China 284k casualties 3k
108. China 317k casualties 33k
114. China 324k casualties 7k
120. China 331k casualties 7k
126. China 352k casualties 21k
132. China 371k casualties 19k
138. China 394k casualties 23k
144. China 397k casualties 3k
150. China 398k casualties 1k
156. China 399k casualties 1k
162. China 430k casualties 31k
168. China 434k casualties 4k
174.
180.
186.
192. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 91k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
198. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 96k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
204. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 96k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
210. China 491k; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 55k; Turkey 100k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
216. China 494k; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 55k; Turkey 118k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;

The list:
1. Rebellious colonists
8. Duala, forgot about this too.
12. Tibet
13. Defense treaty Sweden
15. Defense treaty Prussia
16. Defense treaty Austria
17. China, for forging a CB
18. Lagos, forgot this is an objective
 
Does this:

"216. Event: Piedmont on war footing"

mean that we're actually going to see a war between S-P and Austria? You'd make loki jealous all over again, if that were to happen. ;)

Speaking of the SAR, 'conquered but un-bowed', is there a certain time that you have a truce (à la Europa Universalis) before you can declare war again without repercussions, or could you proceed to whup Boer posterior all over the veldt as soon as you want to?
 
Does this:

"216. Event: Piedmont on war footing"

mean that we're actually going to see a war between S-P and Austria? You'd make loki jealous all over again, if that were to happen. ;)

Speaking of the SAR, 'conquered but un-bowed', is there a certain time that you have a truce (à la Europa Universalis) before you can declare war again without repercussions, or could you proceed to whup Boer posterior all over the veldt as soon as you want to?

The Itallian war could happen, I wonder if France has recovered from the losses in the Franco-Prussian war?

The peace with SAR expired some time ago, I think it lasted for a year. To attack again I would need to make a new CB.
 
The Itallian war could happen, I wonder if France has recovered from the losses in the Franco-Prussian war?

The peace with SAR expired some time ago, I think it lasted for a year. To attack again I would need to make a new CB.

That would be interesting to see: if the French go to war via event, but lack the force to beat the Austrians.

The SAR peace bit is a useful reminder that the game mechanisms between Paradox games and PON are quite different.
 
History:
War, War, what is it good for? Mainly getting rid of boredom......
1. 1852 Burma, conquered in less than 9 months.
2. 1852 Taiping war, never ending.....
3. 1856 SAR, conquered but un-bowed. I gained two provinces of veldt.
4. 1856 Persian war, not sure what happened but peace has been agreed, I gained nothing.
5. 1856 Indian mutiny, swathes of northern India in flames, troops rushed from all over the empire. Marching on Delhi and then they surrendered, so it is all back to business as usual.
6. 1856 Central asian rebellion, lost 50k troops in disaster at Kashgar, have only managed to occupy one province.
7. 1857 Tibetan triangle, have occupied several mountainous provinces then been moved back by a mysterious force.
8. 1857 Franco-Prussian, France advanced taking two provinces at terrible cost, then there was peace and they gave the two provinces back.
Only current war is Taiping.

Quarter highlights:
Crisis with Nicaragua which I won massively, Austria lost a crisis with Russia badly. I did not get much actual PP from Nicaragua as I assume they did not have much to give.
Then I won the game because France and Prussia had a crisis, so France had their contribution to the stash deducted thus reducing the target and letting me win.
Muzzle loading rifles discovered, this has caused a need for nearly 2k replacements, on hold until this is resolved.

My Plans:
Short
Move troops to threaten China.
Medium
Exploring Africa
Create strategic railway to link bases in India to Chinese, Russian and Persian borders.
Long
Continue to pump out naval demonstrations and geographical expeditions and asking native chiefs to cede to gain PP's.
Develop the economy.
Improve relations with foreigners.
Add new colonies.
Expand into central asia to forestall russia

Actions by turn:
216. 2 x demo, 9 x bribe, 1 x natrual, 1 x merch
217. 2 x demo, 2 x explore, 1 x geog, 1 x natural,
218. 2 x demo, 2 x explore, 1 x geog
219. 2 x demo, 2 x explore, 1 x geog,
220. 2 x demo, 1 x geog
221.

Key:
Brig is short for brigade
TP for trade-post
merch for Merchant
demo for Naval demo (cost 20 money get 20 PP)
geog Geographical Expedition (cost 125 capital get 100 PP)
PP prestige points
Number after province means increase of colonial pentration
Province on own under colonial means gained in size of city

Results by turn:
217. Event:Rumania formed; Battle:puerto cabezas 922/2665 won,; Movement:; New unit:eek:pium, completed RR merv, school faizabad, Balkh, herat, farrah, kandahar, ghazni, haka, putao, attock, amritsar, ; Control:moldavia annexed wallachia; System:; Trade:coal wales, fish biafra, minerals gaspesie; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:720; Colony:mutual expired france, defense agreed france, brazil, defense refused austria, sweden, chile, supply expired brazil, herat, attock, amraoli, bilaspur, agra, patna, baghalpur, bardwan, chitaggong, city jaipur, gauhati, merch bafoussam, geog failed kilwa, natrual failed morogoro, explore failed abuja, mossurize, 2 x demo, cede gabon, france cede kaolok, france supress algeria, austria tele klienpolen, austria urban trans slawonien, usa merch inland northwest, usa tele cascades, ;
218. Event:nevada cornstock gold rush, indonesia, east africa, ecucation, repl 5/2/1; Battle:denra 0/410 won, lhassa 230/456 lost, ; Movement:gulf of guinea, mafia island, biafra; New unit:shipbuilding, anchorage, 18 x trained, denra mustered, completed RR samarkand,; Control:rebel rupert island, annex money 1015,; System:austria limit imports russia, ; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:720; Colony:wurtembourg local austria, explore failed moussurize, tukali, geog failed kilwa, 2 x demo, bribe destroyed suakim, cede halaban, rub, outpost winnepeg, brandon, vancouver, vernon, fort macleod, mapple creek, medicine hat, kyzilorda, kyzilkum, karakum, ashgabat, taiz, sanaa, hadramut, colony fiji, france tele antilles, russia colonists irkutsk, rebel high desert crushed, ;
219. Event:; Battle:thoboyandu 3587/1076 lost,; Movement:kaapstadt, puerto cabezas, biafra, south west, lydenburg, ; New unit:shipbuilding, mustered denra, completed tropical penang, fiji, 5 x prospector south west,; Control:morogoro; System:; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:719; Colony:nyamwezi started war, austria crisis russia 123/1235, crisis nicaragua, explore failed sena, 2 x demo, merch failed bafoussam, explored lodwar, prussia merch songea, bahrain 4, ;
220. Event:belgium medal; Battle:trujillo 205/1025 won; Movement:trujillo, mosquito coast, karachi, makurdi, iringa, tibet; New unit:shipbuilding, completed outpost winnepeg, brandon, vancouver, vernon, fort macleod, mapple creek, medicine hat, kyzilorda, kyzilkum, karakum, ashgabat, taiz, sanaa, hadramut, governor fiji, ; Control:; System:trans supplies; Trade:; %SatMod:0.53; Sold:722; Colony:local expired usa, chile, brazil, sweden, spain, portugal, netherlands, greece, denmark, belgium, japan, prussia, france, gb vs nicaragua 2859/168, merch bafoussam, explore failed massakesse, 2 x demo, bribe rub, geog bamenda, china merch kuala lumpur, mukden, ;
221. Event:victory; Battle:almaty 922/800 won,; Movement:songea, kisumu, puerto cabezas, ulundi, makurdi, south west; New unit:anchorage, mustered almaty, completed anchorage biafra, opium zanzubar, mandalay,; Control:revolt banff,; System:france restrict imports prussia, 43 moved puerto cabezas; Trade:; %SatMod:0.54; Sold:723; Colony:austria state saxony, austria local bavaria, 2 x demo, explore failed lilongwe, sena, merch failed atbara, usa merch ute, netherlands colonsists curacao, rebels crushed high desert, ;


Notes:
1. Still buying merchant ship replacements.
2. Miner rebellion in Melbourne, sent brigade there. The option has not disapeared?
3. There is a large swathe of central asia held by rebels, have now given up as every time I get into a province I am moved out again.
4. Peace with Transvaal gave me two border provinces, cannot get Pretoria until the next time.
5. Persia has now got peace with no losses?
6. Making a grab for the pacific islands as they look easy. Slapped protectorate on Hawaii. Discovered most are already claimed or I cannot play a protectorate on them.
7. Massive replacement requirement after discovering muzzle loading rifles.

Progress:
Gained 1179 PP in quarter, target grew by -276; to date 39183 against 38280. So will achieve target in -2 quarters. Victory by prestige points in -1 quarters.
France is now second again.

Position Summary:
Have added 156 economic structures, 5 merchant fleets and 61 railroads, total is 219; my target of one per turn is 221.
Satisfaction shown on the B screen is now 98%. Militancy 1%, Education 96%.
The value of my stocks is 37318; previous quarter 34648.

Navy Board:
Develop bases across the world.
Won first naval battle off the Arakan Coast.
Battles Win Loss Draw
Number 1
Casualties 0 76
Fleets: 2 transport fleets

Army board:
Comparison of combat power with Russia started at 116 and has now moved to 67. So now strongest.
Battles Win Loss Draw
Number 75 12 10
Casualties 156713 107180
% win 77%
Loss per battle 1616 1105 46%
Start of quarter needed 430 hits replaced, end of quarter 855. Muzzle loading rifles discovered.
217. puerto cabezas 922/2665 won,
218. denra 0/410 won, lhassa 230/456 lost,
219. thoboyandu 3587/1076 lost,
220. trujillo 205/1025 won
221. almaty 922/800 won,


Trade board:
Increase satisfaction % and number of goods sold to national and colonial markets.
At the start satisfaction gain 54% goods sold 708, by the end 54% and 723.
Delivering 48% of luxuries.

Colonial office:
Establish more colonies and protectorates
Develop provinces in colonies
Gain maximum prestige points
colony fiji,
explored lodwar,
geog bamenda,

Foreign office:
Develop good relations with friends.
Ensure key allies are protected
Relations France(41), Prussia(15), Austria(36), US(100), Russia(7), Japan(22), Italy(15), Turkey(100), China(-4), Belgium(37), Denmark(51), Greece(41), Netherlands(43), Portugal(40), Spain(35), Sweden(31), Argentina (11), Brazil(53), Chile(43), Colombia (10), Venezuala (9)
Relations France(47), Prussia(16), Austria(34), US(100), Russia(7), Japan(22), Italy(11), Turkey(100), China(-4), Belgium(37), Denmark(48), Greece(40), Netherlands(43), Portugal(42), Spain(36), Sweden(30), Argentina (10), Brazil(60), Chile(43), Colombia (9), Venezuala (9)
4 overall gain over 21 countries.
mutual expired france, defense agreed france, brazil, defense refused austria, sweden, chile, supply expired brazil,
nyamwezi started war,
austria crisis russia 123/1235,
local expired usa, chile, brazil, sweden, spain, portugal, netherlands, greece, denmark, belgium, japan, prussia, france,
gb vs nicaragua 2859/168,
Crisis started between france and prussia

Taiping war:
36. China 6k casualties, taiping war started 6k
42. China 63k casualties 57k
48. China 78k casualties 15k
54. China 90k casualties 12k
60. China 166k casualties 76k
66. China 238k casualties 72k
72. China 246k casualties 8k
78. China 264k casualties 18k
84. China 271k casualties 7k
90. China 271k casualties 0k
96. China 281k casualties 10k
102. China 284k casualties 3k
108. China 317k casualties 33k
114. China 324k casualties 7k
120. China 331k casualties 7k
126. China 352k casualties 21k
132. China 371k casualties 19k
138. China 394k casualties 23k
144. China 397k casualties 3k
150. China 398k casualties 1k
156. China 399k casualties 1k
162. China 430k casualties 31k
168. China 434k casualties 4k
174.
180.
186.
192. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 91k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
198. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 96k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
204. China ; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 52k; Turkey 96k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
210. China 491k; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 55k; Turkey 100k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
216. China 494k; France 289k; Prussia 178k, Russia 55k; Turkey 118k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;
221. China 494k; France 290k; Prussia 178k, Russia 55k; Turkey 121k; USA 0k; Italy 0k;

The list:
1. Rebellious colonists
8. Duala, forgot about this too.
12. Tibet
13. Defense treaty Sweden
15. Defense treaty Prussia
16. Defense treaty Austria
17. China, for forging a CB
18. Lagos, forgot this is an objective