Manpower

[NorwayBernd]

Good idea.

[TheDarkMaster]

Any NIs or quantity/quality slider requirements that would be appropriate?

[NorwayBernd]

Yeah, it would make sense. It shouldn't be too easy to do it.

[gigau]

Any NIs or quantity/quality slider requirements that would be appropriate?

If not in the triggers, at least in the mtth modifiers, indeed.

[mtgdjs]

And what about the "German Traits" modifier that Brandenburg, Prussia, and Germany get? It may be more complicated than giving the modifier to every German state, because Austria would need to get it too in that case. Perhaps it should be given to Germany automatically and to other German states if they have a high enough percent of German culture provinces? Even in that case Brandenburg and Prussia would probably need to be given less stringent requirements since the natural expansion area for them is largely the TO Prussian region provinces, most of which start out non-German culture. Maybe the Prussian region provinces could be counted as German for checking if a country qualifies for the modifier?

Any good?

[Clonefusion]

A little bit earlier i recommended a higher manpower for Dresden and Meissen, so i would also recommend changes for the Palatnate now, the Oberpfalz should also have 3 and Rheinpfalz 5 or if u split it in Heidelberg and Zweibrücken then 4 and 2, i tested the split and the game does not crash and the game also does not crash if u add Bornholm and u can give Leipzig also manpower 3.
Württemberg 3 not 2
Kassel 3 not 1
Darmstadt 3 not 1
München 6 not 3
Hannover 4 not 2
Brandenburg 6 not 5
Ollnborg 3 not 2
Lübeck 5 not 3
Why does Hradec Kralove has manpower 5, would 3 or maybe 4 not be enough ?
Should the manpower of both Opole and Teschen not both go from 5 to 4 or 3, then also move Lignica to 3, wroclwa could then become 5 or is there reason behind the ones which meiou has at the moment ?
Should Vorpommern not have 3 instead of 4 ?
Ostpreussen should also go from 2 to 4 and Mazoji Lietuva from 4 to 3.
Niederlausitz 2 not 1
Should Pomorsko not have 3 or 4 instead of 5 ?
Nizza 3 not 2
Lorraine 5 not 4

[gigau]

Thanks a lot for the suggestions.

Europe has enough provinces as it is, especially in the HRE. The only European provinces i'm considering on adding are : one in Crete, one on Cyprus and possibly Bornholm. Although, for the latter, i'm not sure that its strategic significance warrants a new province. On the other hand, if it helps Denmark better resist to its neighbours, like evil Sweden, then why not.

[Clonefusion]

Thanks a lot for the suggestions.

Europe has enough provinces as it is, especially in the HRE. The only European provinces i'm considering on adding are : one in Crete, one on Cyprus and possibly Bornholm. Although, for the latter, i'm not sure that its strategic significance warrants a new province. On the other hand, if it helps Denmark better resist to its neighbours, like evil Sweden, then why not.

Gigau, do u have sth. against a thingy, that i do a submod in this section and in this mod i change map and province history files and try to balance it way and u will sometimes look over it (i will post changes to normal in forum or a extra doc) and if u think something improves the mod or balances it better, u will add it ?

[gigau]

My name is Gilles, not Luke... Luke works on Death and Taxes

(this is a joke, of course ).



If the submod is to be in this corner of the forum, sure thing

[Clonefusion]

My name is Gilles, not Luke... Luke works on Death and Taxes

(this is a joke, of course ).



If the submod is to be in this corner of the forum, sure thing

Sry Luke, oh no again , sry Gigau or Gilles , yes it will be in this corner.

[gigau]

Sry Luke, oh no again , sry Gigau or Gilles ,

yes it will be in this corner.

Then, feel free

[Clonefusion]

I made a list with the manpower values of the first 200 provinces, it is not much but sth. :

9:
Lombardia
Ile de France

8:
Wien
Piemont
Barcelona
Castilla la Nueva

7:
Uppland-Stockholm
Sjaelland-Kopenhagen
Brandenburg
München
Amsterdam
Venezia
Firenze
Palermo
Buda
Guiana
Bourgogne
Tolosa
Provence
Liyones
Savoie
Aragon

6:
Akershus
Hannover
Köln
Brügge
Brüssel
Genoa
Verona
Hrvatska-Zagreb
Skane
Ostpreussen
Zurichgau
Lorraine
Dauphine
Nafaroa
Galicia
Leon

5:
Älvsborg
Trondheim
Hamburg
Lübeck
Elsass
Salzburg
Württemberg
Rheinpfalz
Artois
Picardie
Letzeburg
Zeeland
Utrecht
Messina
Koroska
Kranjska
Steiermark
Oberostarichi
Dalmacija
Athens
Pecs
Caux
Normandie
Bro Kernev
Bro Rhaozon
Anjou
Poitou
Armanhac
Tortosa
Orleanais
Vales
Champagne
Trois-Eveches
Varais
Burgos
Auvernhe
Lengadoc
Riga
Tirol
Avignon
Girona
Castilla la Vieja
Salamanca

4:
Fyn
Slesvig
Jylland
Pomorsko
Eestimaa-Rovala
Ollnborg
Meissen
Breisgau
Thüringen
Nürnberg
Rijssel
Hennegau
Liege
Breda
Gueldre
Emden
Nizza
Veneto
Mantua
Emilia
Romagna
Lucca
Siena
Lazio
Abruzzi
Campania
Istria
Bosna
Kosovo
Serbia
Morea
Chalcidiki
Silistria
Thraki
Nisava
Lodogoria
Dobrogea
Crete
Grischun
Gasconha
Maine
Barrois
Nevers
Peryregord
Tours
Rosselo
Asturias
Alto Aragon
Badajoz
Castilla la Mancha

3:
Östergötland
Skaraborg
Blekinge
Bergenhus
Varsinais Suomi
Uusimaa
Sakala
Memel
Kurzeme
Schwerin
Stralsund
Göttingen
Weser
Rheinhessen
Calais
Altmark
Vendsyssel
Val d’Aouta
Kassel
Augsburg
Münster
Vogtland
Marche de Ancona
Modena
Friuli
Basilicata
Capitanata
Malta
Sassari
Szombathely
Ragusa
Thessalia
Slavonia
Rodopi
Siebenbürgen
Bugeac
Vlaska
Maramures
Naxos
Bro Gwened
Engolesmois
Bearn
Borbones
Rioja


2:
Kronoberg
Jemtland
Tunsberg
Stavanger
Agdesiden
Halland
Pohjanmaa
Varmland
Gotland
Viipuri
Kola
Ingria
Karelia
Mazuri
Kolberg
Anhalt
Lüneburg
Kleve
Osnabrück
Güstrow
Oberlausitz
Lienz
Straubing
Bayreuth
Uckermark
Baden-Baden
Ulm
Trent
Kotor
Kerkyra
Gjirokaster
Ohrid
Ioannina
Aunis
Plasencia

1:
Kopparberg
Aland
Vasternorrland
Bratsberg
Bornholm
Hämee
Satakunta
Savolax
Muzakaj

Some guys could look through and tell me if they think they are about right.

[gigau]

200 province history files to edit...

I've already changed quite a few, overall reducing the total manpower of France. Hasn't quite toned France down, but it's a start (and i think i've been harsher than you about it ).

[Clonefusion]

200 province history files to edit...

I've already changed quite a few, overall reducing the total manpower of France. Hasn't quite toned France down, but it's a start (and i think i've been harsher than you about it ).

I did not edit them all, i just made a list of first 200, so u or me or others could compare their values, i could also just send u a file of this folder.
And France rly is a problem, France must have a lot of manpower as it beat the Alliances during that time, but in the beginning of the game they weren´t so strong, so i would suggest just give the provinces normal manpower, but give them modifiers at start, so it shows how in a bad shape they were at beginning, because if u turn those manpower values, france is not so strong as it was later, u saw that i have given Anglois-England a ridicilous modifier now and they are still losing hard. Maybe u should remove the vassals from them as a few years later in 1410 there was kinda a civil war in France, where the vassals fought Burgundy over power in France, but in some way that also does not seem right, but France rly is a problem that needs to be solved.
And btw i will try to go up to 500 soon and check them all.

[gigau]

I did not edit them all, i just made a list of first 200, so u or me or others could compare their values, i could also just send u a file of this folder.

You mean, you've edited those 200 province history files ?

Problem is that i've modified hundreds of history files with some corrections already. Merging our modifications will be a nightmare


At start of game, France starts with a -20% global manpower penalty...

[Clonefusion]

You mean, you've edited those 200 province history files ?

Problem is that i've modified hundreds of history files with some corrections already. Merging our modifications will be a nightmare


At start of game, France starts with a -20% global manpower penalty...

Gigau, i looked through the first 200 provinces and added their manpower values, if something looked wrong (50-80), i changed it, with wrong i mean i turned the value 1-3 up or 1-2 down, i can just send u my folder, i also added some centers of trade to make the big ones smaller, but my problem is at the moment that if a cot of another country joins a league their provinces trade through lübeck, venice or genoa, could u change so that cots in trade league controll their adjaecent provinces, but that league members get a higher compete chance and the leader of a the trade league an even bigger one, i know this should come in another thread, but i know u will also see it here ?

[gigau]

could u change so that cots in trade league controll their adjaecent provinces, but that league members get a higher compete chance and the leader of a the trade league an even bigger one, i know this should come in another thread, but i know u will also see it here ?

I'm afraid i don't know how to do that...