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    Manpower

    I have a question:

    How is the base manpower of Provinces decided ?
    I looked up some of them in germany, so:

    Brandenburg 5
    Prignitz 3
    Uckermark 2
    Altmark 3
    Neumark 4

    Magdeburg 2

    Anhalt 2

    Meissen 2

    Thuringen 2

    Dresden 2
    Leipzig 2
    Chemnitz 2

    So how i see the provinces with more importance have higher manpower, so Brandenburg is explained, but then also Magdeburg, Leipzig, Meissen should have atleast 3 and why does Neumark have 4 ?

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    What are you talking about? Are you looking at base tax? This is different to manpower. There should be a number (in the hundreds) somewhere in the city information panel next to the word 'Manpower'.

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    He's referring to the 'manpower' variable in the history files that acts as a key modifier on the manpower formula.

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    My mistake.

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    Some tweaks might have been overlooked.

    For Neumark, i could argue that the manpower value is merely a modifier, that the province manpower will ultimately depend on the population. And that a border province like Neumark might be somewhere the population is more prone to provide manpower to defend the Mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigau View Post
    Some tweaks might have been overlooked.

    For Neumark, i could argue that the manpower value is merely a modifier, that the province manpower will ultimately depend on the population. And that a border province like Neumark might be somewhere the population is more prone to provide manpower to defend the Mark.
    So the manpower for some provinces in Germany will be changed in the future ?

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    Manpower values at least are open to discussion
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    In my opinion then Magdeburg should have atleast 3 cause of its importance, mainly during the Thirty Years War, Meissen should have 3 as long capital of Saxony, the same stands for Dresden, but i would give Dresden even 4, in my opinion Saxony and Brandenburg (without Prussia) should have the same Manpower before the Thirty Years War and if Saxony would get Magdeburg, they would be more powerful, in reality Saxony was a the biggest opponent of Brandenburg at the moment, but when Brandenburg got Magdeburg they lost.

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    I never see Brandenburg outrageously defeating Saxony, but your argument makes sense. Changes made to Meissen, Magdeburg and Dresden.
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    It is just if Saxony would unify, they should stand a chance vs Brandenburg, if it didn´t do Brandenburg decisons (if there are some).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefusion View Post
    if it didn´t do Brandenburg decisons (if there are some).
    What do you mean ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigau View Post


    What do you mean ?
    Do they not have a decision like Prussian Military Reforms or did I mix up with D&T ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefusion View Post
    Do they not have a decision like Prussian Military Reforms or did I mix up with D&T ?
    No, I don't think so. At least I never saw any in my Brandenburg->Prussia->Germany game, so I doubt something like that exists for Saxony.
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    Bernd, i think you missed the occasion for some reason, because Prussia has the decision. Would you have become Germany before reaching land tech 30 ?

    But i was sure there was a general one... maaybe had i planned to make it availlable to any nation, like for the Venetian drydocks (or something like that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigau View Post
    Bernd, i think you missed the occasion for some reason, because Prussia has the decision. Would you have become Germany before reaching land tech 30 ?
    That's possible... What's the average year to reach it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorwayBernd View Post
    That's possible... What's the average year to reach it?
    Land tech 30 is 1600.
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    Ah, okay. Yes, I formed Germany way before that.
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    Regarding military reforms, do you accept that the decision be opened to any nation provided they are sufficiently land slider oriented and have a high enough land tech level ?

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    Why not?
    Maybe there should be a land tradition requirement as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorwayBernd View Post
    Maybe there should be a land tradition requirement as well?
    Good idea.
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