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    Adding war goals

    Hi all,

    As is the case with other paradox games I've played, I assumed CK2 would also have a mechanic to add on additional 'war goals' if the going was good. I ask this, because I've encountered numerous scenarios where I could confront a foe over multitude of casus belli, but could only fight towards a single one, followed by a long truce. It would seem obvious to me to be able to add more goals to the war as things went on; is it possible that I'm just blind and haven't seen the option, or is there no such functionality.

    And if the latter, would you agree that it'd be a worthwhile addition to the feature set?

    Cheers,
    JB

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    I agree with you 100% (you must be referring to Victoria II right?) with the war goals. It is quite annoying especially with challenging nations.

    Anyway to answer your question AFAIK you cannot add war goals.

    However if you have multiple claims you could try asking the pope permission for an invasion (costs you 500 piety + good relations) and it will feel like a holy war cb, that is you must occupy the places you want before sue for peace/before transferred to you.

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    it is not possible, and no, it also shouldnt be there. otherwise things would become waaaaaaaaaay too easy. if i have a de jure claim on 40 counties and i can press them all that would cripple smaller nations.

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    Exactly, @Culinia :P

    And I disagree, @grumphie. It could be made difficult to add additional wargoals to a war, or perhaps there could be a limit on the number of additional war goals that could be added. Or perhaps it could negatively impact your prestige/piety/others opinions of you if you added more wargoals, justified as 'exploiting your standings'? It just seems very game-like that there's no flexibility.

    That would be my one *real* request for the next patch, that would truly affect gameplay.

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    I'd especially like to see the option to add war goals during defensive wars. If a guy that I have a claim on declares war on me, and I manage a complete victory over him, I'm going to wait until our truce is up to push my own claim? Yeah, no. If I have a claim on his title and I occupy his capital and have him in prison, his title is mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziamatt View Post
    I'd especially like to see the option to add war goals during defensive wars. If a guy that I have a claim on declares war on me, and I manage a complete victory over him, I'm going to wait until our truce is up to push my own claim? Yeah, no. If I have a claim on his title and I occupy his capital and have him in prison, his title is mine.
    The truce does not prevent you from declaring against him when you win the defensive war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumphie View Post
    it is not possible, and no, it also shouldnt be there. otherwise things would become waaaaaaaaaay too easy. if i have a de jure claim on 40 counties and i can press them all that would cripple smaller nations.
    True but going county by county with wars that last a decade, take 50 battles and tens of thousands of lives is a bit too extreme.
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    You can 'press all claims' if you have more than 1 personal claim, but De Jure claims must be pressed piece by piece.

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    Paradox have said multiple times that they have disliked the pace at which a competent player can expand in prior Paradox games. The "one-country-at-a-time" thing was specifically designed to mitigate this, and slowing expansion has been a major design goal throughout the process of CK II's ongoing development. So arguments that "Oh, it wouldn't help the player that much" are likely to fall on deaf ears.

    Personally if I was a Paradox dev I would take reassurances that this wouldn't boost player expansion greatly with a grain of salt in light of how often the feature is requested...

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    I have no problem with this, either get more personal claims or like in my last game in North Africa, hit the east neighbour, hit the west neighbour and then over the seas to the North. Easy!

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