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NOTE: Notice: While this mod deals with modern day events and countries please refrain from bringing up the subject of the Middle East, US foreign policy or Israel\Palestine or any kind of related discussion related directly or indirectly to the rights or wrongs in the world outside the context of the Mod

==SUMMARY==​


Darkest Hour of the Modern Era puts you in the seat of government of any country during the years 2007 - 2040(through most events would be concluded by then and you'll finish an AAR or your "objective" in 10-21 years at least. It has a new storyline centering around an alternate economic collapse in 2007.

Take control of three alliances:

-As USA/NATO - Build up your arsenal to defend democracy from dictators, terrorists and the expanding power of the other power blocs, show the world who holds hegemony! But how long can your adventurism last before a heavy toll is taken on the people's faith towards government?

-As China/Shanghai pact- Spread your influence in Asia..............and beyond. Can your economic and growth last and overtake the US? Or will it be your downfall?

-As Russia/CSTO - Rebuild your country and rejoin the Superpower Club. Do you ally with those that control your former territory or do you try to get it back?

EU and ECON also exist as minor alliances, and the latter may be formed with events, and ECON gets events to merge with CSTO

==STORYLINE==​


In 2008 an economic crisis happened that caused several currencies to be hit hard. Many nears collapse As a result, the global interconnections shatter and three alliances form to establish the world's hegemony and grab as much political and economic influence as possible. A new Cold War looms...........that will get hot as the world holds it's breath.............and engulf the world in World War III.

Other than these, you, as a player will be free to do as you wish. For example, I won't let Germany become National Populist via events(or at least not at the beginning) but you may do this by making custom events or pressing f12, type "freedom" and then moving sliders by cheating. But then prepare for the worst. NATO will not tolerate something like that....................................

==Key Notes/Features==​

-War starts in 2012, first three years are new Cold War and escalating tensions

-Danzig of this mod is Taiwan independence issue, the point of divergence is the victory of Tsai Ing-wen in Taiwan Elections which causes tensions between Taiwan and China.

-Occupy Protests and Tea Party happen earlier given the economic chaos. They slowly become more organized..............................

-More widespread and chaotic Arab Spring----many regimes that aren't toppled in OTL(ie: Algeria) might be toppled(perhaps not Saudi Arabia through for many reasons)! Will they join Iran to fight US and Israel or form their own alliance due to Sunni-Shia split...................

-Israel can get claims on whole Middle east region, becoming "Greater Judea"

-EU can fall into chaos war between pro-Austerity vs Anti-Austerity might begin. Parties like the far-right Golden Dawn can seize power in Greece, causing instability in the region!

-CSTO and SCO may team up against NATO...or it might become a 3 way every-man-for-himself conflict.

-Uses MDS tech tree

-USES the 2012 borders map, once that mod1914 map is done I might switch to it!

-Unit recruitment times are long, so rely on your initial deployment and new unit events!

-REALLY BAD stuff may happen if a country has too much dissident(See Civil War section below)

==WW3 Buildup==​

In this mod, there's a good chance most of the world, minus some obvious neutral nations, will be at war on one or another side as nations get into new alliances and tensions rise during the 4-year Cold War.

Russia and China could argue over Mongolia. Japan could occupy the islands that they controlled before the end of ww2 (Russian controlled). Finland could be a hotbed of anti and pro US forces that could leak into Poland and Sweden. Submarines from all sides could sink merchant ships or have privateers hired to capture them (Somalia anyone?) Africa and Latin America and Indochina play the biggest part here because they are largely neutral but have sways towards each side. India is friendly to the US in diplomacy but receives Chinese industrial aid. Thailand is friendly to the US but needs the Chinese and Indian markets nearby.

In Myanmar the pro democratic there could be put down by the military to please China or could take over with US backing and prove to be a threat to China. Then there's Cambodia which wants Thailand's' land or Vietnam who need Chinese aid and dislike the USA anyway. Then there's Argentina vs the UK on the Falklands dispute, which can pull South America into a war. Zimbabwe and South Africa's dislike of the UK may have them backing China or Russia. Nigeria is needed for the oil so that plays a big part in African politics. Will Algeria,Tunisia and Morocco side with the Iran or Saudis? Will Brazil back the Argentinians if it comes to war? What will the effect of Mexicans in the USA play if Mexico has a pro China/Russia coup? or if it sides with Argentina? Will Cuba be host to another missile crisis? Will Haiti and the Dominican republic stay at peace or try to unify the island?

What happens if Hungary's stronger right wing side with Russia after the first war? What if in Greece the far-right Golden Dawn doesn't just get a disproportionate amount of seats in the 2012 ...but actually wins the election altogether and turns Greece into a far-right dictatorship. What if the National Front or the Left Front won the 2012 presidential election in France? Will the Dollar and Euro hold on to life or will the war wash them away and cause complete anarchy across the world?

Humanity is at a precipice, and glory awaits those who would seize it.

==Map Used==​

Hopefully the 2012 borders map at first. The focus of the mod isn't on Proxy wars at the moment---4 years and the world gets into a global all-out war so the Map doesn't have to be too large. However, if in the future assuming that we push the date back to 2003, then 2000, we might use the upcoming map for mod1914 providing that it ever gets finished, as it makes small-scale or proxy wars fun.

==Minister Ideologies==​


1) Communist (Stalinist): North Korea, Turkmenistan
2) Radical Communist (Leninist): China, Belarus, Cuba
3) Social Radical(Left-Wing Radical): Venezuela
4) Social Democrat
5) Social Liberal
6) Market Libertarian (Market Liberal): USA and EU at beginning of mod
7) Conservative (Social Conservative)
8) Authoritarian Democrat (Paternal Autocrat): Most of the secular US-backed dictators in Middle East minus Saudi Arabia(who is Fundamentalist)and some Far-Right ministers in the west
9) National Populist (Fascist): Far-Right parties(ie: Golden Dawn), some African Dictatorships
10) Fundamentalist (National Socialist): Saudi Arabia, Taliban, Middle East Fundamentalist hardliners as a whole(Iran is arguably Authoritarian Democrat through)

==Civil War Events==

An unique event in this mod are civil war events. When many powerful countries have high dissent(above 60%), expect the repercussions.

USA: Midwestern militia groups revolt against their local governments and the Occupy groups sort into organized gangs---in some cases there are alliances between them and the Tea Partiers against a specific goal. Small insurgent groups pop up in towns and cities across the country, and a sizable force in the millions, eventually Texas, the Confederate States, Deseret and the Pacific states of America secede - bringing about the Second American Civil War. Canada may seize Alaska as in Kaiserreich to contain chaos, or it might secede and Deseret may be integrated into PSA.

To spice things up, It is also possible for a "Liberty States of America" to form from a new union some of the seceded states to fight the USA. It's an uneasy alliance of Constitutionalists, Libertarians, some of the "Occupy" factions, Conspiracy Theorists, Anonymous hackers, and some Leftists & Conservatives disenchanted with the government, and they use the original 13 colonies flag. They may be led by someone like Ron Paul or some other "rebel" figure in modern times, which may cause a schism. Their goal is the end of U.S. adventurism overseas and the end of corruption and the restoration of the constitution. Thus, it's less of a geographical entity than "an idea" Will this succeed.......or will infighting between the ideologies tear it apart.

The nation itself is kinda of a wild card, it can be a democratic form of government that will restore the constitution...........or it can be an even more authoritarian one depending on who becomes the leader! In Kaiserreich terms it probably represents the AUS to some extent

There's also a Socialist/Communist faction that can also be formed from some of the states, and represent the CSA is kaiserreich. It's formed by a combination of many radical left, some of the Occupy factions with ties to these groups and Communist parties in America.

China:

If dissident hits too high, Tibet and East Turkestan will break free via events, the Communist party will collapse and you can either have the military, a civilian government, or CCP hardliners seize power. China may separate into South China and many blocs that were owned by warlords in WWII.

Russia:

(Note: This is event triggered)

So as you've heard Putin's facing hot water in Russia, right? While the current protests won't amount to much, in this mod, my goal is to actually have them escalate due to worsening economic conditions and corruption. At a certain point, there will be an election in 2018. If Putin wins again, and dissident is +65%, there will be massive riots. A Communist faction called the Russian SFR declares independence. Siberia, as well as a Liberal-Minded faction, may also declare independence as well.

(Note: To some extent this is based on a event in the long-lost MDS for HOI1 as well as Kaiserreich.)

==New Revolters==

Russia: Stripped-down Russia(the European portion of Eurasia), Siberia

USA: New England, Texas, CSA, Deseret, PSA, Alaska, Hawaii, Chicago Free State, Cascadia, perhaps a socialist states of America as well........

China: Tibet, East Turkestan, Manchuko, Kunming Republic(Xibei San Ma), Quangzhou republic.

Canada : Canada, Quebec, "Maritimes Alliance"(country made from Maritime provinces)

UK : England, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland

Germany: Bavaria, Brandenburg, Rhine Republic, Greater Holstein(Hamburg)

France: Southern France, Northern France. (or break it up to Brittany, Central France, Southern France)

Italy: North Italian Republic, South Italian Republic

==Unified Nations that may be released==

Scandinavia (minus Finland)

Benelux (The Netherlands and Belgium)

Baltic Union (Latvia,Lithuania and Estonia)

United states of Central America (USCA)

Turkestan (Central Asia countries)

DEVS:

-Xie
(hopefully some other people also comes)

NOTE: There will be no events to recreate or release nations like Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia as revolters. This is due to the ethnic tensions that will emerge that made them dissolve in the first place. However, for the Balkans, it is possible for Serbia, assuming it is a National Populist government, to push for cores on the region, forming a sort of "Greater Serbia".
 
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Now, are you intending to do anything by yourself?
 
Now, are you intending to do anything by yourself?

-Ministers
-Some events

I might actually try to be the one that will add the launch screen to the mod. And perhaps design it.

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And do we have a flag package? Tech tree is same as MDS and nothing is added atm.
 
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On one hand, most of the events you proposed are completely off the wall and simply could not happen.
On the other hand, I don't think I can dislike a mod where a coalition of Occupy people, Ron Paul supporters, and Anonymous try to rebel against the USA. Keep going with this, it has potential.
 
On one hand, most of the events you proposed are completely off the wall and simply could not happen.
On the other hand, I don't think I can dislike a mod where a coalition of Occupy people, Ron Paul supporters, and Anonymous try to rebel against the USA. Keep going with this, it has potential.

The reason I made things IRL way worse was because one of the reasons MDS often dies is because there's too much to shuffle through. A few people wanted a solution---a storyline involving total economic collapse and war because of it for the remaining resources. Just read the original thread where this originated. If I ever extend the timeline back to 2003 or 2000, or if the "surprise" is revealed(not telling you anything). It will be more realistic and we will use a different map and perhaps change the storyline.

So in a way, it's more like "Dawn of Mankind" or "1989: Turning Point" instead of a full-on word-for-word MDS scenario. Hence the name "Darkest Hour of the Modern Era"

Also as you should know, many of the major tensions IRL still exist and will happen historically in this mod, but with more stakes and volatility attached to match escalating cold war setting.

As for US Civil War, most of the "Occupy factions" would most likely go with the CSSA counterpart instead of the AUS counterpart, given the left-leaning nature of the OWS movement, just some of the Occupy factions join the AUS counterpart. Finally, Ron Paul is just one of the leaders that can emerge from the AUS counterpart. The leader of Liberty States of America can be Gary Johnson or some other Libertarian.........or even an Authoritarian far-right or ultraconservative leader that "claims" to be restoring America. So it's kinda like AUS in that it is split between some factions in one party. Also, expect internal coups to occur if the various factions are not held together. So the AUS counterpart in this mod is a "wild card" faction.

The two major states that can result from a US civil war does not always happen. So don't always expect "Kaiserreich scenario" I'm thinking of having these states created via decision or 50-50 events. Sometimes it's all-the-states-rebel and secede into CSA, Texas, Deseret, Hawaii, and possibly Alaska and A) form the "NANS"(North American Nation States) against NATO, or if WW3 is going on, become client states for CSTO and SCO. The chaos might also reach Canada and cause Quebec to secede as well.

Also nukes will not be used by anyone in this mod during WW3. If a country is pushed to the brink they can access nukes provided that their reactors are not seized, which causes everyone to access nukes. But AI will almost always pick conventional warfare over nukes.

Finally, there will be no events to recreate or release nations like Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia as revolters. This is due to the ethnic tensions that will emerge that made them dissolve in the first place. However, for the Balkans, it is possible for Serbia, assuming it is a National Populist government, to push for cores on the region, forming a sort of "Greater Serbia".

Also, back to mod development, while I can do minister files, I can't work on this alone, as all failed MDS attempts are solo projects for the most part. so if anyone is interested in joining say so, signify what you will do to contribute or PM me.
 
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@Xie Sounds very promising! You had me sold at
However, for the Balkans, it is possible for Serbia, assuming it is a National Populist government, to push for cores on the region, forming a sort of "Greater Serbia".
(hell yeah!). If you need any help with Serbia or Ex. Yu stuff (translations, discussing ministers,events/decisions and things like that) feel free to PM me. I would be glad to help. Cheers mate.
 
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You didn't need to justify anything. I was just pointing out that most of this is unrealistic, and that I'm okay with that. I have a feeling a realistic scenario would be boring. Like I said; please keep going with this mod. It has tons of potential.
 
I hope this turns out well, I just don't like the idea of a major nuclear war as early as 2012.. There should be other smaller proxy wars around 2012 and at AT LEAST 2015 there should be nuclear warfare winding up.

2012 and before should be focused on terrorism, Libya, Syria, Arabic revolutions, Iraq, US/Nato interference etc. etc.

An ahistorical future would be better than an ahistorical path that already happened in our real life.
 
You didn't need to justify anything. I was just pointing out that most of this is unrealistic, and that I'm okay with that. I have a feeling a realistic scenario would be boring. Like I said; please keep going with this mod. It has tons of potential.

It's not unrealistic it's 'the worst case scenario' of our world, it is plausible for it to happen it just hasn't and hopefully won't :D
 
Finished a pic for this opening menu for this mod. I don't like it through cause I suck at creating decent images and if someone has a better one, they can post it here.
 
I hope this turns out well, I just don't like the idea of a major nuclear war as early as 2012.. There should be other smaller proxy wars around 2012 and at AT LEAST 2015 there should be nuclear warfare winding up.

2012 and before should be focused on terrorism, Libya, Syria, Arabic revolutions, Iraq, US/Nato interference etc. etc.

An ahistorical future would be better than an ahistorical path that already happened in our real life.

No, Nuclear War does not start in 2012, just WW3. No one can use nukes at the start. Once a nation is crippled enough they can choose to use nukes or win conventionally, and the AI will 90% of the time choose to win conventionally. This is to balance the gameplay and make sure no one destroys the world in 1 sec.

I PM'd you the adapted map.

Now, which ministry do you find appropriate to replace the Ministry of Armaments? Economy, Finance, or Defence?

Minister of Defense probably.
 
No, Nuclear War does not start in 2012, just WW3. No one can use nukes at the start. Once a nation is crippled enough they can choose to use nukes or win conventionally, and the AI will 90% of the time choose to win conventionally. This is to balance the gameplay and make sure no one destroys the world in 1 sec.



Minister of Defense probably.

Ah that sounds better.