Plot Execution in 1.06

Mr. Charisma22

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• Jun 27, 2012

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I have over 100 percent power of my murder plot, although the decision button is gone it seems in the new update. Anyone know how this works now?

-Thanks

 

sir Eyeball

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• Jun 27, 2012

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do you have a backer otherwise no go

 

Mr. Charisma22

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• Jun 27, 2012

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many backers.

 

sir Eyeball

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• Jun 27, 2012

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sorry don't know then

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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Your plot backers have chances to fire events where they attemp the murder.

 

tcstome

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• Jun 27, 2012

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Same here

Same problem here.. Some backers and no decisions to kill show up... this is really annoying..

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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The decisions were removed. Kill plots are now more random; you want as many backers as you can get.

 

tcstome

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• Jun 27, 2012

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GREAT.. So now its pretty much useless..

 

Oepfel

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• Jun 27, 2012

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tcstome said:

GREAT.. So now its pretty much useless..

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no, now it's more realistic. no click'n'kill anymore.

 

semaphore

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• Jun 27, 2012

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You can still kill with it, how is that useless? You just can't go on a murder spree on demand anymore (without hiring assassins directly).

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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Doomdark said:

The decisions were removed. Kill plots are now more random; you want as many backers as you can get.

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Might have been better to go all the way with the automation then. Adding a large number of plotters to a plot is incredibly boring and time consuming. Perhaps that part should be automated too.

Oepfel said:

no, now it's more realistic. no click'n'kill anymore.

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Which just means we're back to the old assassination mechanics. Plots were fun but they may not be worth it anymore.

The event notification appear buggy too. I just succeeded at plotting to kill my daughter but got no popup of any sort about it.

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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Well, does more backers still lead to a higher chance to get caught?

I think the goal should be that you want the highest plot backers you can get, but not every Tom, Dick, and Harry at court.

 

bonnieprince

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• Jun 27, 2012

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tcstome said:

GREAT.. So now its pretty much useless..

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No, it has just become an event which will pop up more often the more backers you have. Means you have to wait for an opportunity to arise with one of your backers (So I suppose, like in real life you have to wait for the opportune moment, not just whenever you feel like it)

 

semaphore

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• Jun 27, 2012

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Alerias said:

Might have been better to go all the way with the automation then. Adding a large number of plotters to a plot is incredibly boring and time consuming. Perhaps that part should be automated too.

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While automated adding plotters would be great, I don't see how this is automation. Clearly the intent is to produce more randomised results rather than to automated that one click of of a decision button.

Which just means we're back to the old assassination mechanics. Plots were fun but they may not be worth it anymore.

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How so?

 

tcstome

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• Jun 27, 2012

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I wont argue.. mainly because of cheats and mods.. I thinks it removes some realism as the king as to wait for the backers to move on the kill.. Maybe pushing the plot power up a bit.. removing the decisions seams like the king has no power to issue orders to KILL.. Great game btw

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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tcstome said:

removing the decisions seams like the king has no power to issue orders to KILL..

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You're looking for the assassination option. That's different to plots.

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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rmdsc said:

How so?

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I think this is a valid observation, though we've replaced the gold cost with a time cost. I think that is a reasonable trade-off to present the player.

90% chance to kill someone with no time or gold cost (perhaps buying opinion) needed to be scaled back.

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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It makes it so you can't get one backer, have a 45% chance to kill and just save/reload until they die. I just did one as count of Dublin on Leinster with over 100% plot power. Fired in less than 6 months.

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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tman144 said:

It makes it so you can't get one backer, have a 45% chance to kill and just save/reload until they die. I just did one as count of Dublin on Leinster with over 100% plot power. Fired in less than 6 months.

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Random chance is random. You got lucky.
A lot of people in places I visit are reporting plots with 100%+ (some in the 300%+) range not having events trigger after years or even a decade.
The base MTTH is so high that you might as well not bother unless you're trying to murder small children or incapable rulers and you have a spymaster on board. It is simply unreliable.

edit: I've personally experienced it as well, 110% plot power, spymaster included, no event after roughly 10 years.

 

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• Jun 27, 2012

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tcstome said:

removing the decisions seams like the king has no power to issue orders to KILL.. Great game btw

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It's incredibly easy issue orders to kill people as king. Here's how:

1) Imprison the person you want to kill.
2) Execute them.

This isn't about giving an order to kill, this is about killing someone covertly. If you want to kill someone openly you can, but you have to deal with the tyranny consequences.