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    Germans of all colors and backgrounds! The National Liberal Party calls for YOUR vote!

    The National Liberals keep the best interests of all Germans close at heart. It is not through tariffs and restrictions that Germany will succeed, but through freedom and hard work. The elimination of humongous tariffs and unnecessary regulations will not impede German growth, but accelerate it. The elimination of pointless discrimination against Jews, Catholics, and Poles will not push us apart but bring us closer together. In addition, a strong navy and efficient colonies will safeguard German interests abroad, and make sure that it is always Germans that are one step ahead of the game.

    So, people of Germany, do what is best for your Fatherland and for your Kaiser and vote National Liberal TODAY!
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    ((Well, the Liberals are out and running))
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    [SPEECH FROM BERLIN FEBRUARY 7NTH 1914]
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    People of Germany.... Our Nation stands-beat- at a crossroads. Merely 40 years ago our country...was divided not just by national borders...but by the dastardly French! But we would overcome, for the German people will ALWAYS overcome, and we united into a single-godly-glorious REICH! Now our enemies once again try to devoid us, not by national lines but by partisan ones, the same enemy that once used our divided states against one another. The Social Democrats will say " Germany belongs to proletariat!" the National Liberals will say "No Germany belongs to the capitalist". Then the Reich Party will say "NO, Germany belongs to Germany!". Our nation belongs to us, to god, to the Kaiser. If the National Liberals are elected they will sell all of us out to France for money! If the Social Democrats are elected, they will take our homes and give them to the mentally ill and lazy! Germany don't give yourselves to these brutes! These men who despise our fatherland and will enslave us. Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men! SELFISH MEN, WITH SELFISH MINDS AND SELFISH HEARTS. Vote for unity, vote for strength, VOTE FOR THE REICH!
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    *Speech to Magdeburg audience, 12 February, 1914, distributed throughout Prussia and other German regions through pro-Liberal newspapers*

    "Recently, some of the Liberal Party's opponents, the radicals on both ends of the political spectrum, have argued that the Liberal Party stands only for the capitalist, and even insinuated that we do not stand for the German people! However, I can assure you that that is plain and simple nonsense! Only a few days ago did our party's leader, the highly experienced and deeply patriotic Erich Thaumen, declared, for all Germans to hear, our support for equal rights; is that solely for the capitalist? Is that, in any way, opposed to Germany; granting the people of the Fatherland more rights? If the Reich's Party believes that to be the case, then i sincerely warn you, be careful who you vote for, for that may be the last time you'll have the chance!

    Furthermore, the Reich, our glorious homeland, will only grow weaker under the command of the radicals; vote for sensible, noble, and prudent leadership; vote for the National Liberal Party!"
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    My fellow Germans as we all know the there are two threats which most endanger our Reich, the French and Social Democrats. To combat these threats the Reich needs a strong government to help his majesty better run our fatherland. To better prepare our Reich from possible French aggression I believe we must build more forts along the border. I also believe we should tone down our naval build up so we do not ruin our relationship with our Nordic brothers, the British. Also my fellow Germans do not buy into the lies the Socialists tell you voting them into office would allow them to undermine our great Kaiser for there so called 'revolution'. If we the German Conservatives are elected I will make sure that programs will be started to help all help all Germans, especially increased funding for education, so that all our children will be the brightest of there genaration.

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    In response to Hozenzollhern rebuttal to anti-NL speeches Otto uses connections among the aristocracy to distribute his own message through conservative and traditional Newspapers.
    "German People, do not be fooled by liberal lies! They claim that the Reich party are the ill-knowledged radicals! That the National Liberals are the true patriotic party of the fatherland. Clearly there leader Eric Thaumen must have been crCking a bad joke when he wanted to make heretics and foreign nationals equals to the true god-fearing citizens of Germany. Clearly the writer of the article must be a true comedian for then using this bad joke to prove their leaders loyalty. I don't know about your Germany but I am not laughing. Perhaps the true loyalty of the National Liberals lie elsewhere, the only troubles is where would they lie, to France, to Poland, to the Pope, or to the Jews.
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    OOC: Gosh darn it, those bills were so close to passing! Really, the amendment was hardly 40 votes away! Fry, how do we know when this 'legislative session' is about to end? And more importantly, how can we tell the passage of time in the game world? For example, you often say 1914 is upon us, or that a legislative session has ended or that some months have passed, but in reality, we simply have no idea how much time is passing as we debate! I was planning on introducing a bill to help the economy after this bill and amendment were either shot down or passed. Thing is, I was waiting for them to either pass or for voting to be ended by the Chancellor, neither of which happened, and now all of a sudden the legislative session is ended.

    In summary, I think we just need some way for you to update daily, or set up some sort of structure where each day in real life debating on topics in this thread equals X amount of time in the game, as well as explaining just how long in game these legislative sessions are, and perhaps putting this world into a bit of perspective for us. The polls you do to give us the issues and the issues you give us through newspaper clippings like krupp are all well and good, and I really like that spin on things. But I feel when the issue 'economy' is mentioned, we should be given some idea about what exactly is the state of the economy. We can't all be historians of WW1 era Germany, and even if we were, pinpointing the things in the economy (such as textile industries, steel industries, farming, prices, unemployment) that we need to address is next to impossible.

    I don't wish to complain, but I really do like this game, and I just think it needs a slight bit more structure for us to be effective.

    IC: (The following is the speech delivered by Graf Von Urlich, via a national radio broadcast, and in person as he campaigns across the country to urban and rural areas alike.)

    Fire, destruction, devastation, ruin. Unemployment, anarchy, chaos. A society in chains, a government torn apart, and a proud country in shambles. A harvest that spoils, an industry that goes bankrupt, a city that starves, and a government that is powerless to stop it. THIS is what you vote for, THIS is what you plead for, THIS is what you pray for, when you vote and plead and pray for the Social democrats. They won't give you success. They won't give you prosperity. They will only give you Ruin, Chaos, Anarchy, DEVASTATION.

    The social democrats will have us go back to the days of the Holy Roman Empire, when all of Germany was merely a collection of power hungry princes that bickered among themselves. We have come a long way since then. Frederick the Great of Prussia. Bismarck of the German Empire. Our current Kaiser, William II. All great men. All heroes of the German Empire, whether they were part of it at the time or not. And it has all culminated to this point, to today, where our entire future is at risk. The futures of your sons and daughters. The futures of the German peoples. The futures of the German Empire. The fate of Europe. For make no mistake, we are the pre eminent power in Europe! Our fate is died to the lifeblood, to the breathing and to the beating heart of Europe itself!

    But also make no mistake, that a knife is being held at the throat of Europe, and a sword is inches from the heart of the German Empire. The Social Democrats are worse than a virus that flows through the veins of our proud empire, they are an enemy, both internal and external. They threaten everything this Empire stands for, they threaten our ability to protect and care for YOU, the peoples of Germany. They threaten Germany itself! They threaten peace! They threaten that son you cherish and that daughter you love!

    THEY are the reason this past legislative session has seen no clear answer to YOUR demands, the demands of the people, whether it be peasant or nobleman, shopkeeper or factory owner, man or woman, German or Jewish, Polish or Swiss. I myself, personally with the full backing of my party the German Reich landed our time and skills to strengthening you, the people and the Empire, by proposing an amendment to the constitution and a bill to further strength our navy. Afterwards, the plan was to introduce a bill to stimulate the economy and have the common German continue to raise ever higher than those other Europeans that only seek to emulate our great country! But you see, those bills were never passed, that economic plan never proposed. The social democrats blocked every attempt of ours to get funding to our military so that you should know you are safe in your beds, that the Fatherland, the VATERLAND is looking out for you! They were vicious in their scheming and plotting. They threaten to consume Germany, unless you do something about it.

    The German Reich is different, but then the same can be said for the National Liberals, or the Conservative Party. What makes the German Reich party any different? You see, its the name that says it all. The other parties display an ideology. They show off their fancy plans that they never enact, they boast about what they wish to do.

    But not the German Reich. I may not lead the party, I may not be the most experienced in the Reichstag, but I know my fair share. That fair share of knowledge includes the fact that WE, the German REICH were the ones that proposed and wrote 50% of the bills discussed and voted upon in the last session! We tried our utmost, and indeed, many a Patriotic member of the Empire joined us in our valiant effort, to see bills passed and the German Empire bettered. But the social democrats, the enemy, was not having it. They blocked every attempt, voted down and bullied other members of the Reichstag in order to see no action was passed. You see, they think not of their country and its well being, but of themselves and the power they wish to wield! they are tricking you my fellow Germans! They wish you to think they care for you, but they only want office.

    The German Reich is different. We are different because we are not named for an ideology, but for the country that we labor hard to protect and represent! We represent the German Reich altogether, in all its unity and glory! And I promise you, on my word, on my honor as a soldier and representative of the Volk, and on the graves of my long line of ancestors within the great country which is Germany, that I will ENSURE that the German Reich is in good hands. I will ENSURE that things get done, and that you are well cared for in the capital of Berlin! Trust me, for I have served this country and you and your brothers and sisters my entire life, whether in the military or the government, and I shall not let you down. Vote for the German Reich, please, before I am reduced to begging in front of you.

    I will not see this country fall to the Social Democrats. They are systematically destroying everything the German Peoples hold dear, and I will not let them control this country so they may continue to wreak havoc and bring ruin to this great land!

    (*Use my wealth as a Graf (equal to Count or Earl) to make sure that in the less wealthier regions I may speak in, that good food is served in good amounts to those who need it. And in those regions where they are not so poor or the people are too numerous to be fed properly, make a small donation to a local church or other charity and publicize it in my speech to the greatest extent possible.*)
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    *Speech to German Students, Berlin, 11 March 1914*

    "Yesterday, I heard solid words of wisdom from our dear allies, the Conservative Party! Our economic views may differ, but on our condemnation of the red menace and the vile French, and our great support for our glorious military, we stand, arms locked, against the radicals of socialism and reactionism! United, the National Liberals and the Conservative Party can bring our most noble and illustrious Fatherland into a new era, an era of peace, of strength, of wise leadership, of prosperity! A Golden Age for the German people and nation!

    Sadly, however, the radicals of the right still haunt our nation; they oppose equality, they oppose economic choice and freedom, and they, if elected, will ruin our great nation! The Liberals are the best choice for Germany, and, combined with Centrist, Progressive, and Conservative voters, will lead Germany forward, to a new, brighter day!"
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    OOC: Just noting that the Progressive Party is probably rather more left than the National Liberal Party.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator1993 View Post
    My fellow Germans as we all know the there are two threats which most endanger our Reich, the French and Social Democrats. To combat these threats the Reich needs a strong government to help his majesty better run our fatherland. To better prepare our Reich from possible French aggression I believe we must build more forts along the border. I also believe we should tone down our naval build up so we do not ruin our relationship with our Nordic brothers, the British. Also my fellow Germans do not buy into the lies the Socialists tell you voting them into office would allow them to undermine our great Kaiser for there so called 'revolution'. If we the German Conservatives are elected I will make sure that programs will be started to help all help all Germans, especially increased funding for education, so that all our children will be the brightest of there genaration.

    Graf von Lanstein-Pranow's speech to the people of the city of Bielefeld in the province Nordrhein-Westfalen (March 10, 1914)
    Surely you jest. As much as I respect you and our brothers in the Conservative Party, for we in the German Reich do indeed agree with you on quite a few issues, you have some rather incorrect facts. Such as building forts on the french border. Why build forts when you can use an army? We already proved 45 years ago that no method or system of forts can hold back a competent army with our invasion across the heavily fortified French Border in 1870. To be honest, building any serious system of forts for the express purpose of replacing the duties of an army would be an extreme waste of money.

    Not to mention that not only do you incorrectly label the British as Nordic, as they are British and not Nordic and I believe they would be inclined to thank me for correcting you in that regard. However, we have every right to build a navy to protect our interests on the high seas, including commerce and contact with our colonies! Surely Britain would not go so far as to claim we do not have the right to protect Germans just as they have every right to protect British citizens and indeed, British interests? Not only that, but you insinuate that by building a navy, we are expressly going to use it against britain! I have never before heard such false lies from whom I thought was an honest and truthful member of our Reichstag. I say this as both a former occupant of our grand military and our experienced Foreign Ministries, and I must say, that our navy is not being built as a threat to Britain, and it truly is people like you who would generate such falsehoods and create such rigid tension!

    Please Germany, do what you do best and listen to us, and you will see which of us makes sense and which of us don't. This man obviously doesn't. The Social Democrats obviously don't. Let me remind you again who named their party after the people they represent. The German Reich!
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    ((Arya has a point at the speed we are going I don't think we will ever get any legislation passed.))

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    Quote Originally Posted by arya126 View Post
    Surely you jest. As much as I respect you and our brothers in the Conservative Party, for we in the German Reich do indeed agree with you on quite a few issues, you have some rather incorrect facts. Such as building forts on the french border. Why build forts when you can use an army? We already proved 45 years ago that no method or system of forts can hold back a competent army with our invasion across the heavily fortified French Border in 1870. To be honest, building any serious system of forts for the express purpose of replacing the duties of an army would be an extreme waste of money.

    Not to mention that not only do you incorrectly label the British as Nordic, as they are British and not Nordic and I believe they would be inclined to thank me for correcting you in that regard. However, we have every right to build a navy to protect our interests on the high seas, including commerce and contact with our colonies! Surely Britain would not go so far as to claim we do not have the right to protect Germans just as they have every right to protect British citizens and indeed, British interests? Not only that, but you insinuate that by building a navy, we are expressly going to use it against britain! I have never before heard such false lies from whom I thought was an honest and truthful member of our Reichstag. I say this as both a former occupant of our grand military and our experienced Foreign Ministries, and I must say, that our navy is not being built as a threat to Britain, and it truly is people like you who would generate such falsehoods and create such rigid tension!

    Please Germany, do what you do best and listen to us, and you will see which of us makes sense and which of us don't. This man obviously doesn't. The Social Democrats obviously don't. Let me remind you again who named their party after the people they represent. The German Reich!
    And I also say as a former member of the Imperial Army that I wish to avoid war as it brings far to much misery to the people, I do not wish to see the young men of Germany go to die for a war of aggresion but if need be, I will of course stand by our men if the French or the Russians push us to war. The reason behind us building forts is that we must remember during the war of 1870, our Army broke through French forts, due to our the superior quaility of our troops, the French however do not have well trained troops and the lot of them are cowards. I do not see our naval build up as threatining the British, however they might not see as we do, as you have stated we are just exerciseing our right to build a fleet, but I do not wish to relations with Britian soured because of the threat they think we pose. Also you are correct with the whole 'Nordic' thing perhaps 'Germanic' would have been the more correct term. But as a fellow Conservative let us stand togther to oppose socialism instead of fighting amoungst ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator1993 View Post
    And I also say as a former member of the Imperial Army that I wish to avoid war as it brings far to much misery to the people, I do not wish to see the young men of Germany go to die for a war of aggresion but if need be, I will of course stand by our men if the French or the Russians push us to war. The reason behind us building forts is that we must remember during the war of 1870, our Army broke through French forts, due to our the superior quaility of our troops, the French however do not have well trained troops and the lot of them are cowards. I do not see our naval build up as threatining the British, however they might not see as we do, as you have stated we are just exerciseing our right to build a fleet, but I do not wish to relations with Britian soured because of the threat they think we pose. Also you are correct with the whole 'Nordic' thing perhaps 'Germanic' would have been the more correct term. But as a fellow Conservative let us stand togther to oppose socialism instead of fighting amoungst ourselves.
    Indeed, let us stand together! Let the Social Democrats and Communists within them know that the Right Wing stands as one, stands as the true representative of the people! I do hope that the Conservative Party will look to join Political forces within the Reichstag with the German Reich instead of looking to the center and the left for support like they had during the last assembly of parliament.
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    Thats.....extremely fast. You just witnessed how we barely voted on 4 bills this session after all, and that is with limited discussion.
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    ((Maybe a week or even 10 days would be better))
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    5 Days = 1 year = 1 Legislative Session
    I'm sorry but I don't think we can move that fast.

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    09% Others
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    OOC: I Tend to agree as well,especially when it happens after I announce that I will be on vaccation for a week-plus, particularly when the only warning is a the event bein posted (I still only have internet access when I go to town. I am on holiday yet)... but it is past us. Also my party is the cntre party of german politics, look at the name.

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    To the Kaiser (open letter): I must thank yor majesty for the honor of being appointed chancellor but also the support of the nation following such attempts at to undermine the government as through thedeliberate sale of votes in the reichstag, the continued obstanance of the opposition, refusing to vote for bills even ones designed expresssly for the benefit of the german people, but most of all for the disunity of the gevening coalition such as the Justice Minister`s recent break to protect a man, no a demon, that has for too long held our nation hostage!

    ~Your loyal servant and Chancellor, Reinhart von und zu Birkenfelt

    People of Germany: the Kaiser`s words rimg true! The inaction of the previous class of the reichstag was indeed caused by clandestine and partisan means,the government is dominated by radicals, ot only on the left but also on the right! It is the extreme radicalism of the current legislative session. a division that has posioned and otherwise shreaded this governments attempts to create a beter Germany! It is this sad polarization of politics and continued disruption from bothsides of the aisle that so disrupt our great nation. Most immportantly I must announce the governments most extreme achievement, the innoccuously named Naval Bill of 1913, though a footnote compared to the legislative session general has proved its hidden worth in an announcement I wished to deliver at the start of this legislative year. Thanks to the the passing of this bill, and the subsequent sale of the ships to decomissioned to enable the modernization of the Navy. The government was able to sell 15 aged and decrepid pre-dreadnaughts inorder to acquire modern warships with the payment of $30 million, a figure at the then exchamge rate of $1 = 4.2 Reichsmarks, equal to 126 million reichsmarks, a figure that not only paid for the construction of all new vessels authorized under bill, but raised the treaury to such an extent that even if the latest budget did not affect the ecomomy greatly ((still waiting for word on their impact)), was still of a magnitude to completely absove the nation of its national debt I promised the nation I would fix the budget deficit and the massive national debt, to you I present a tabula rausa, a blank slate, one devoid of the peri-annual deficit spending and most importantly a land without a national surplus as opposed to an account deficit of over 155M RM.

    May germany forever prosper,may the german people forever hold their place in the sun! In the centre we find progress! We find patriotism! We find vitality! May Zentrum lead our nation to prosperity, renewed livelihood, and, engendered with a remewed, sense of being!

    People of germany vote not for a singulr party affiliation but for your individual futures! For Germany, for us all!

    ~Chancellor Reinhart von und zu Birkenfelt, National Address

    OOC: I'll continue to be out of town for acouple more days, best of luck all! Best yet I can't even post before voting intentions are posted (though go crappy 3G coverage).
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