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    What a waste.

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    The worst thing about the current state of affairs is the huge distance appearing to be between the parts involved. If it was just for the buggy state of the game, then there would be chances that the MM team could work on other projects for Paradox, whether is a mod, a game, etc. But with the current situation, it seems everybody has ended up exhausted and with few will to do anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dskod1 View Post
    Sad and unfortunate. I little bit confusing when he says the part

    "It will not see the light of day under the current set up: Universo Virtual (UV) will not be part of this project any more."

    I bit more clarification? the Title says game cancelled but the description leads a little more to be desired.
    It is longhand for:
    1. The project has been cancelled. It is dead as a doornail.
    2. Paradox is examining its possibilities with regards to what to do with the existing codebase, which UV developed under contract to Paradox.
    3. IF a new project is started up based on the codebase, UV will not be part of that project.

    If you want to, you can start guessing about internal development or hiring somebody else to finish off the game, but it is entirely possible that it means exactly what it says - that Paradox, having decided to cancel the project in its current form, is keeping its options open. (To which those two options belong, but there are several others).
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    On the up side - we will have a free summer.


    My biggest hope is that Paradox do not stop cooperating with other people.
    My impression is that there are at least a couple of Paradox game "improvements" whose teams have worked out well (FtG?).
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    so,should i pick up EU3 now or what???

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    Quote Originally Posted by binTravkin View Post
    On the up side - we will have a free summer.


    My biggest hope is that Paradox do not stop cooperating with other people.
    My impression is that there are at least a couple of Paradox game "improvements" whose teams have worked out well (FtG?).
    FtG was a sales failure.

    And it also had bad publisher-developer drama.

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    Ahh well, hopefully Paradox hasn't lost out too much on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panosmel View Post
    so,should i pick up EU3 now or what???
    Yes. EU3 Chronicles.

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    I would like to point out to anyone who has or is going to complain about pardox.

    paradox is cancelling this AT A LOSS. They will not be making any of hte capital they have put into this project. So if they cancel the game after that amount of capital has been poured into then you know there were serious problems, not only with the game but with the Dev team.

    Paradox has stuck by this for ages longer then it should have. You should be thanking paradox for giving them a "second chance" to fix the problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Lucky View Post
    Ahh well, hopefully Paradox hasn't lost out too much on it.
    I am assuming Paradox lost a great deal: 2 years of contract management, QA, travel, publishing duties/advertisement, programming/design collaboration, legal fees, etc.

    Plenty of real expenses and lost man-hours, not to mention opportunity costs and emotional scarring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayavarman View Post
    After playing ck2 for 3 weeks (demo) and vic2 AHD now for some months wouldnt it be a downgrade??? COME ON,ILL BUY THE GAME AND RELEASE IT MYSHELF!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panosmel View Post
    After playing ck2 for 3 weeks (demo) and vic2 AHD now for some months wouldnt it be a downgrade??? COME ON,ILL BUY THE GAME AND RELEASE IT MYSHELF!!!
    what are you rich???
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    FtG was a sales failure.

    And it also had bad publisher-developer drama.
    Oh, I didn't know it.
    Does it mean all of those side-projects were unsuccessful?
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    Really, what a waste!

    The codebase must still be salvageable/useable in some form, no?!

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    I won't be surprised if we'll see soon an announced EU4 with surprisingly similar features to MMtG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panosmel View Post
    After playing ck2 for 3 weeks (demo) and vic2 AHD now for some months wouldnt it be a downgrade??? COME ON,ILL BUY THE GAME AND RELEASE IT MYSHELF!!!
    EU3 at its current state is quite good actually. No need for Greek Dramaz here...
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    I just want to say to the development team, no matter that your first game was cancelled, no matter that in all likeliness you well apart as a group, what you have done is a great accomplishment. You have gained valuable lessons on game development and have a huge advantage over up and coming game developers who start with nothing but an idea. You started with an idea, turned it into a popular mod and then put two years into making it into a game.

    It's sad that it had to end this way, but congratulations for making it this far and good luck for the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dskod1 View Post
    what are you rich???
    I was gonna buy EU3 but then i heard about magna mundi,so i bought vic2 AHD and said 'hey ill play it till magna mundi is released and the price drops' now i guess im stuck with vic2.... WHICH IS AWESOME!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_merse View Post
    I won't be surprised if we'll see soon an announced EU4 with surprisingly similar features to MMtG.
    I'm sorry for you, but no need to be vindictive... At the end some of the more critical posters here were expecting this.
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