Technology Spread

flame7926 · Jun 12, 2012

Why doesn't technology spread? I understand that technology becomes cheaper the longer it remains unresearched. But, the chance of the technology being researched by the ai doesn't increase. If a country has low research, like the Ottoman Empire, they might not get around to researching something like basic chemistry, even by 1900. The same is true to a lesser extent for Russia, and Austria. Now, these countries were behind somewhat, but if a great invention or technology was discovered, somewhere else, it wasn't kept a state secret. Other countries quickly picked up on it. So, I am saying that there should be some system of technology and inventions spreading between countries. I am wondering what people think about this idea.

zmarcos · Jun 12, 2012

Immigrants could bring the good techs from their advanced nation.
Some type of event, that triggers depending on the quantity of immigrants you have.

If some immigrants are scientists (clergymen), they would boost your tech research.
And if you are lucky, Albert Einstein will join your country.

Archaleon · Jun 13, 2012

I always thought that in this game and in HoI the cost of technologies should be based on the number of countries that already have it. An additional penalty would make the teck more expensive if few countries have the pre-requisite techs, and just do away with the whole year-based system. This way if you for instance tried to research way ahead in military techs, they would cost more, and eventually take so long to research you couldn't get so far ahead of everyone that it would unbalance the game. This way once most of Europe already has a tech it becomes cheaper, and makes it so the poorer countries in say South America can more easily get them, and once they have them the techs are dirt cheap and the really backwards nations with little research could get them.

zmarcos · Jun 13, 2012

Archaleon said:
I always thought that in this game and in HoI the cost of technologies should be based on the number of countries that already have it. An additional penalty would make the teck more expensive if few countries have the pre-requisite techs, and just do away with the whole year-based system. This way if you for instance tried to research way ahead in military techs, they would cost more, and eventually take so long to research you couldn't get so far ahead of everyone that it would unbalance the game. This way once most of Europe already has a tech it becomes cheaper, and makes it so the poorer countries in say South America can more easily get them, and once they have them the techs are dirt cheap and the really backwards nations with little research could get them.

I guess, you described how Crusader Kings 2 works.

Breyer · Jun 13, 2012

Another way to think about it is not that you spend time researching techs, but that you spend time adopting the policies that stem from them, thus giving you the bonuses "instantly" once the research is completed. So when you research a tech that gives you +50% farming, its not that your country discovered the way to do it and then instantly all your farms are modern. Instead you spent those years introducing the technology in your country, so that at the end of that period, your reforms were complete.

flame7926 · Jun 13, 2012

Breyer said:
Another way to think about it is not that you spend time researching techs, but that you spend time adopting the policies that stem from them, thus giving you the bonuses "instantly" once the research is completed. So when you research a tech that gives you +50% farming, its not that your country discovered the way to do it and then instantly all your farms are modern. Instead you spent those years introducing the technology in your country, so that at the end of that period, your reforms were complete.

Which is another reason why the techs should spread, the farmers would adopt them some time even if the country never researched them.

Breyer · Jun 13, 2012

flame7926 said:
Which is another reason why the techs should spread, the farmers would adopt them some time even if the country never researched them.

That's unlikely for low literacy countries (those that need it most). Historically, industrial and farming innovations have had to be jammed down the throats of traditional populations in countries like russia, the ottomans, etc. Sure, in western europe it was different, but countries that are behind technologically are suually behind for a reason, precisely because they are resistant to technological change.

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