The Sword of Islam - Dev Diary 2

[Gedierond]

So these opportunities can vary the success of the plot or if they fire it's a 100% kill? I'm not in control of my plot anymore?

I´d guess that the probability these oportunities have of succeeding depends on the actual plot power you accumulated, but I´m also intrigued by how this´ll work.

Edit: Just saw that Doomdark explained a bit about this issue. Sounds cool!!!

[Sleight of Hand]

Currently, yes.

Purely from a common sense point of view I'd suggest fabricated claims should by definition be weak. The point is they're flimsy, dubious claims which have been somehow scraped together or simply forged entirely.

[Faber81]

You are less in control, but you still get the choice if you want to go through with the actual murder or not, when a plotter or you yourself see an opportunity.

I see, nice addition, it makes plots a little less predictable and more dynamics. Thanks for the quick answer!

[Sian]

Purely from a common sense point of view I'd suggest fabricated claims should by definition be weak. The point is they're flimsy, dubious claims which have been somehow scraped together or simply forged entirely.

... Maybe make it so fabricated claims are weak, but that weak claims can be futher fabricated to become strong claims?

[Voy]

I wonder how the AI will respond to this patch? Do you think the Muslims will grow weaker or even stronger than before after this patch?

[Loderingo]

You are less in control, but you still get the choice if you want to go through with the actual murder or not, when a plotter or you yourself see an opportunity.

Sounds like this could add quite a bit of tension. For example, if you find out someone outside your realm is plotting to kill you, you can plot to kill them back but there is then a bit of luck as to whose plot fires first.

[Gedierond]

Purely from a common sense point of view I'd suggest fabricated claims should by definition be weak. The point is they're flimsy, dubious claims which have been somehow scraped together or simply forged entirely.

Maybe, since they´re adding a plot to obtain claims, they could integrate both mechanics? Something like: to execute the plot you need to send your chancellor to fabricate claims at the corresponding county, and the strength of the claim depends on the plot power you accumulate?

[Garuda]

Weak claims can only be pressed against .. [snip] and .... titles currently in a succession crisis

Bugger! Succession crises are already the bane of my games without more jumping on the rebel band wagon.

[SicilianSaint]

Excellent work Paradox, it looks amazing. Now shut up and take my money.


Also, as a question Doomdark, won't it be easy to plot to get a claim on someone?

[Ekstrakt]

Great job, Paradox. Making DLC an option, thus not forcing it unto consumers and whilst at it making the game playable cross-DLC is the way to go.

[vaca_loca]

Purely from a common sense point of view I'd suggest fabricated claims should by definition be weak. The point is they're flimsy, dubious claims which have been somehow scraped together or simply forged entirely.

If it was up to me I would also make them weak, but I understand that for balance reasons the fabriacated claims being strong will still allow for slow and steady fabrication expansion, making them weak would make it almost pointless to fabricate them. Since inheritance trough assassination is already the favorite method of expansion, to weaken claim fabrication would only worsen the situation. This new system is basically to prevent ICS (infinite claimant spawn), having a list of 30 people with claims on your titles, all waiting to be invited to someone's court and having their claims pushed.

Sounds like this could add quite a bit of tension. For example, if you find out someone outside your realm is plotting to kill you, you can plot to kill them back but there is then a bit of luck as to whose plot fires first.

This would be nice, exept you can still just push a button a couple of times and have them killed instantly. Asssassination plot reworked, awesome! Auspicious time to remove the infamous diplo-assassination?

[Soulstrider]

Great stuff, however this makes the Muslim dynasties appear an hell to manage.

[Mel_E]

Will there be new culture buildings?

[SicilianSaint]

Also, can we get a mod/admin to delete those messages by Atarmwwjz..

[jakeshortj]

Quick Question (that i'll probably get the answer to in a few days because of steam): Will the Sword of Islam be available on Steam? It's not showing up yet... it might be because it's not released yet... but i want to make sure. thanks

[Sleight of Hand]

Will the Sword of Islam be available on Steam?

Absolutely -- all of the other DLC packs are, and it's the only way Steam players could get SoI.

And I surely hope so, Mel_E. More nicknames too perhaps?

[solam]

"""" a Sultan should have four, or he will take a monthly prestige hit """"

this is not importnat for sultan !!!

I think this is not good idea ... but everythings good ...
Waiting for next week ...

[Gedierond]

Will there be new culture buildings?

I think they mentioned something about this in the thread of the DLC announcement, I´ll check if I can find it.

[Dutchling]

"""" a Sultan should have four, or he will take a monthly prestige hit """"

this is not importnat for sultan !!!

I think this is not good idea ... but everythings good ...
Waiting for next week ...

Note that the game should not be about what good Muslim rulers should do (according to the Koran perhaps), but what they historically did, wanted and had to do.

[Gedierond]

Will there be new culture buildings?

Yep, here it is:

Can I ask, will you make cultural buildings for more cultures? (And, maybe, not only in the Castles, but in the Cities and Churches as well?)

Yes, it's one of the subjects of another dev diary.