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    Quote Originally Posted by ywhtptgtfo View Post
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    What was that dev diary about?
    It's the last video. I said Dev Diary because that is the format for most of the content on the front page. Sorry for the confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaidal View Post
    It's the last video. I said Dev Diary because that is the format for most of the content on the front page. Sorry for the confusion.
    Oh. Sorry, I got confused. Yeah, that sounds rather strange. This is the first time I've seen the devs and publisher publicly contradicting each other in such a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.j. Arnold View Post
    It's a business, it's not all about what the forum users want. Do you truly think we are prioritized in receiving information?
    No I do not expect to get prioritized news HOWEVER I also do not expect for paradox to openly lie. They said they would tell us when they know so once more yer...........
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    Just have to say I feel the pain of the developers. I am not impressed with the professionalism of Paradox in handling this case. Making public posting about possible cancellation before at least telling the developers is really not the way to handle things.

    Barring something extraordinary event, I strongly suspect this game will be canceled since Paradox has already spread bad rumors about it, which will negatively impact it's box office reception. Which is a shame, since this game was the only upcoming Paradox published game I was excited about, the only game that dared to be innovative. Probably the developers aimed too high, and failed to simplify things when it was clear that the deadlines were pressing, but at the same time this doctrine of "no compromise" would have yielded a better game in the end and better sales for Paradox had they chosen to release it.

    I hope the developers will continue to make games after this, they've got a lots of potential! And as well I hope Paradox will reconsider and give this game the release it deserves...
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    Don't give up now, Killerrabbit. There's always the possibility of compromise.

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    On one hand I appreciate the openness, on the other it's clearly been too much effort into MM to give up now.

    I'll repeat what others have said, and propose a "pre-order, be part of the beta" system. It has worked for other developpers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerrabbit View Post
    Just have to say I feel the pain of the developers. I am not impressed with the professionalism of Paradox in handling this case. Making public posting about possible cancellation before at least telling the developers is really not the way to handle things.

    Barring something extraordinary event, I strongly suspect this game will be canceled since Paradox has already spread bad rumors about it, which will negatively impact it's box office reception. Which is a shame, since this game was the only upcoming Paradox published game I was excited about, the only game that dared to be innovative. Probably the developers aimed too high, and failed to simplify things when it was clear that the deadlines were pressing, but at the same time this doctrine of "no compromise" would have yielded a better game in the end and better sales for Paradox had they chosen to release it.

    I hope the developers will continue to make games after this, they've got a lots of potential! And as well I hope Paradox will reconsider and give this game the release it deserves...
    Just view the video and look at Ubik.
    (Start from 6:55 on..)
    Quote Originally Posted by ubik View Post
    ...
    If we were living in a perfect world and out of gratitude to the community, I knew what I would do with this game that opened many doors to some of us and brought us all to the next experience level. Some minutes ago I asked Paradox exactly about that.
    Of course, the good news is that we don’t live in a perfect world, we are humans and our stories more often than not are the roll call of mistakes we committed. In real life, he who commits fewer mistakes wins.

    With my fair share of mistakes, let me assure you I won already at all levels. This was the best time of my life and I owe it to all of you!

    So... enjoy the final developer interview and of course, keep a foul tomato or a rotten egg at the ready to throw at the face of yours truly!
    Also PI took over the Beta now, throwing out the UV-people as Mods here...
    So no cancelling but takeover from PI side now.(My guessing)
    Maybe PI could also get the free devs that worked so hard too on this project and will finish it just without UV.
    At least that is what it looks like to me. But because of all the "trouble" it will not called MMtG maybe anymore.
    From the interviews and all the comments it looks like that UV has already focus on their next(own) game. Also they may have no contract responsibilities to develop MMtG any further if they say it is all ok. So if P says it is not all ok then you have the basics for a std argument..
    If they have that differences or not, A small studio like UV will likely have not the manpower to do 2 such projects at the same time, so they will have the need to do on at the time too.
    And Ubik already said that his programmer will work from this time on exclusively on the new project..
    And as P has already, I guess, paid them one year longer as all thought of, they would maybe not pay UV any longer anyway..

    A pretty "normal" situation that could happen in big projects..
    Who is to "blame"? As most times, all parts of that story have their "reasons"..

    From the outside with litlle Infos, we can just guess.
    From my point of view, we'll see a game with that nice features, developed by Fans, polished by PI.

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    It's been a while since we heard something from k_merse or Zolotaya (not to mention ubik)... Have they been slapped on the fingers for their (mis)communication?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murmurandus View Post
    It's been a while since we heard something from k_merse or Zolotaya (not to mention ubik)... Have they been slapped on the fingers for their (mis)communication?
    there last post was yesterday? (page 58)
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  10. #1250
    As long as we get a Magna Mundi game, and as long as the Devs that still desire to do so are allowed to continue working on it, I am perfectly fine with Paradox taking over the development from UV.

  11. #1251
    Hi,

    I'm posting just to make sure you are in the loop; our silence is an effect of the fact that there are no news. We are busy looking at the build, talking to the devs and weighing the pros and cons of different options.

    I do understand that the behind-the-scenes-process of carefully looking at the options tests your patience, but I'm afraid there is no way to avoid it at present. We will not rush it, for the sake of all involved.

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    Well, that's good news.

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    I knew it were not cancelled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade Chaos View Post
    I think Paradox is gonna take over development of MM (With the lead UV people helping in areas) while the rest of UV does some other game.
    Yes, this looks increasingly likely. I'm not sure if it's a good thing or bad thing though.
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    Light in the tunnel

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    Quote Originally Posted by videonfan View Post
    Light in the tunnel
    It's just a freight train coming our way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagys View Post
    Yes, this looks increasingly likely. I'm not sure if it's a good thing or bad thing though.
    I would assume it would take a lot of time for an other team to learn the mechanics and change and fix them... Perhaps a year


    Quote Originally Posted by Mattias Lilja View Post
    Hi,
    We are busy looking at the build, talking to the devs and weighing the pros and cons of different options.
    ^ ^
    I hope that among those different options there is still one in which UV stays at the game, perhaps with some help


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    thanks for the post paradox. Nice to know we are being kept in the loop.

    You have my support as always
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    This starts feeling like an important football game that has gone to penalties, its the third or fourth round and its 3-3. Its like when one wants it to be over, one way or another. I hope a decision comes soon.
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