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    [MOD] Homeland, an ahistorical mod for Darkest Hour

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    Homeland 2 for DH1.03 RC2

    Crash Free!
    Please select save game as this is turned off for testing.


    This is the latest version of Homeland2. It is only for DH1.03 RC2.
    I've spent weeks debugging and re-doing events to remove 99% of all the bugs.
    There may still be a bug about, so save often.

    REMEMBER: Rhineland and Prussia are German demilitarised zones.

    DIRECTIONS:
    Extract PatriaRC2ver1.7z into your Darkest Hour/Mods folder.
    Select HomelandRC1 from the list in the Launcher. Play.
    This is a single file of approx 220MBs.

    LINK: http://filesmelt.com/dl/PatriaRC2ver1.7z

    Previous Link removed, dropbox account suspended for excessive traffic.

    link: I'm having lots of trouble keeping a download service, as I keep getting suspended for whatever reason.
    My current solution is this:
    Please email me at novapaddy@gmail.com and I'll send you a link to this Homeland RC2 version.



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    62 new units included:



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    Homeland 2 for DH1.03 RC1

    THIS IS NOT THE LATEST VERSION. Please only use this version if you HAVE to.
    The RC2 version is the latest. Thank You.

    This is the latest version of Homeland2. It is only for DH1.03 RC1 at the moment.
    I've spent weeks debugging and re-doing events to remove 99% of all the bugs.
    There may still be a bug about, so save often.

    DIRECTIONS:
    Extract PatriaRC1.7z into your Darkest Hour/Mods folder.
    Select HomelandRC1 from the list in the Launcher. Play.
    This is a single file of approx 195MBs.

    LINK:
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    Homeland 2
    an ahistorical mod for Darkest Hour

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    US Army War College, G-2 Intelligence Division

    Joint Army and Navy Basic War Plan Red.
    (94pp), (1927) updated 1935.

    Aim: to capture Canada in its entirety.


    Capture city of Halifax, its strategic harbour to deny Britain access. Sieze Niagara Falls electricity plants, cut off power. Invade Canada on 3 fronts; Vermont to Montreal and Quebec; North Dakota to take railroad at Winnipeg; Midwest to capture nickel mines in Ontario, and Vancouver. Blockade Canada's Atlantic and Pacific ports.

    Conclusion.
    Crimson (Canada) cannot successfully defend her territory against the United States (Blue). She will probably concentrate on the defense of Halifax and the Montreal-Quebec line in order to hold bases of operation for Red (Britain).
    Important secondary efforts will be made to defend her industrial area and critical points on her transcontinental railroad lines.






    MOVIE:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4hjyyrpiKQ



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    What the public were told:

    March 1935: US President Franklin D. Roosevelt, running for re-election, doing poorly in the polls, convenes a secret military meeting to discuss a plan to invade and capture Canada. In recent times diplomatic relations between Britain and Canada to the United States has been deteriorating. Britain still owes the US £9 Billion Pounds Sterling from the Great War, which is has not repaid (1930s valuation). The US has been in deep recession for years and this debt has been a thorn in the side of the President.

    He has decided to act. Against the advice of his generals, he gives the order for the invasion to proceed on July 5th, 1935. Britain is known to have plans not to defend Canada in the event of a US invasion. Canadian defences are poor and widely dispersed.

    It is of utmost importance that the port of Halifax be taken or destroyed, to predicate against a British re-supply effort or invasion to support the Canadians. All attending the meeting believe the attack will be a "walkover" and "over in 6 weeks".


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    Historic: July 5th, 1935:
    Hastily prepared (unprepared and inexperienced) US air, sea and land forces attack Canada on 5 fronts. Forces strike from Seattle into Vancouver, from North Dakota into Winnipeg, from Chicago into the Great Lakes area, from Vermont into the Toronto area, and from New England towards the port City of Halifax.

    Vancouver and the lands on the West Coast are captured.
    The transcontinental railway is severed by US forces at Winnipeg.
    Toronto is briefly invaded but the attack is repulsed.
    Bridges are destroyed by Canadian irregulars/army to hinder US forces.
    A sea-borne landing is attempted at Halifax, it fails due to bad planning and practice, and is repulsed. It is believed a British submarine was in the area at the time, by coincidence.

    Ottawa, Toronto and Montreal have suffered air attack. The port city of Halifax has been totally destroyed. There have been many hundreds of deaths and injuries in Canada. The US has suffered some deaths and injuries also, but not on the same scale as Canada.

    Both navies stand almost intact. There have been naval engagements off the coast of Boston.

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    Unfortunately, due to poor communications over such a huge land area, US forces in some areas acted before there was an actual Declaration of War.

    In August 1935, strenuous diplomatic efforts were made to stop the conflict or at least have a ceasefire. Friendly governments have sent embassies to the warring parties, to assist.

    British parliamentarian Winston Churchill said it was "A Day of Infamy". The British Government had no option but to respond with the full weight and the "Power of the Empire". Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and India have offered to provide troops to aid their "cousins" in Canada. The British King, George V has welcomed this "commonwealth of action".

    In response to the unwarranted destruction of the city port of Halifax, the British Navy issued a warning to the US government, to withdraw or Boston and New York cities would be suffer "justified reprisals".
    Many are saying that it is like a re-run of the war of 1812, but with horrifying modern weapons.

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    The entire world is aghast at this unfortunate turn of events.
    Many countries, among them Herr Hitler in Germany, and the Japanese Emperor have sent their condolences to the Canadian government.
    France has partly mobilized and is concerned of their citizens in the French-speaking provinces of Canada. Their forces are on a 1-week notice to move.
    British Commonwealth forces are preparing and it is believed up to 2 million troops could be provided in the next 6 months.

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    The severe Canadian Winter has caused military operations to come to an almost stop. Forces from both sides have "dug-in" on their separate lines of battle.
    It is hoped by all, that the governments and diplomats can come to some resolution of the crisis, before things get totally out of hand....


    Homeland: A new ahistoric mod for Darkest Hour 1.03.

    ... the Allies are at war in 1935.
    ... Germany and Japan are rearming but with added urgency.
    ... France has part-mobilised and is updating its forces with urgency.
    ... Russia sleeps but Stalin is keeping an eye on events. His army is currently being re-invigorated and re-armed also.
    ... The USA is in shock at the turn of events. It is urgently re-arming and up to 2 million recruits are in the process of being put in the field. FDR is believed to have suffered a heart-attack or stroke, but it is unknown how severe.
    Both Great Britain and the United States have said they are "encouraging all efforts to resolve this crisis", but neither side has offered to meet.
    It seems this unnecessary war has woken the governments from the slumbers of their Great War efforts. Fear abounds throughout the lands at this sudden change in events.

    What happens next... ?


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    DIFFICULTY TO PLAY:
    Historical scenarios are usually adjusted to ensure historical stuff happens in-game. So, GER will have advantages over FRA etc. and the 1940 scenario follows the historical path.
    This will not happen by design in this mod. The 6 main Powers should have a full opportunity to be at their best for battle. I'm not intending to hinder them in any way; unless of course, it becomes impossible to win!

    CONTRIBUTIONS:
    Plausible ideas as to a future ahistorical outcome are welcome. It is hoped that this scenario will "get the creative juices" flowing in DH fans.
    Complete Decision/Event packages are welcome and will be included in the mod if you would like to contribute. If you want to write "Japan invading
    the US", or the "US kicks out the Commonwealth", feel free to do so. But please let me know as others may want that too?
    novapaddy@gmail.com. Cheers.

    AIMS:
    It is hoped that players, will by necessity, have to play their Army/Navy/Airforce to the limits of their capabilities in order to win.

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    MENTIONED IN DISPATCHES: for giving scenario ideas to the Mod, which will be implemented.
    Hyo: #38
    KaiserMuffin: #42
    Timmie0307: #51
    razorbird789: #64
    Emperor Willham : for contributing the front page for the mod. #394
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    Hope this gets finished, Novapaddy!

    Even with British support, I don't think the Canadians would stand a chance (their strategy was, in such conditions, to basically distract the Americans long enough for the Brits to arrive).
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    Yeah seen this on military history last week. Strange idea...
    "So what our nation needs in more helicopters, armored vehicles and lots and lots of soldiers?"

    "Yes but none of these are as sexy as an aircraft carrier..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.j. Arnold View Post
    Hope this gets finished, Novapaddy!

    Even with British support, I don't think the Canadians would stand a chance (their strategy was, in such conditions, to basically distract the Americans long enough for the Brits to arrive).
    i think you over estimate the Americans and underestimate the British, the Americans were still fairly behind on war doctrine in 1935 and were quite comfortable at peace, they wouldn't be ready for a full scale war with the British empire. Also around this time the royal navy was still the largest navy on the earth. The only doctrine to surpass Britain at any great amount was Germany in 1940/41 time and the US took their first year of war 'settling in' to it so developed the most then. in the long run the USA would be more powerful because of their industrial base but if Britain destroyed main ports and drydocks on the east coast early on then the USA would have to sail through Pananma which the British could blockade hence leaving the entire east coast without any naval forces.

    What role would other nations play like Brazil,Argentina and Mexico, surely they'd be involved abit because of the Monroe doctrine the USA had implemented. Would they take offence to the USA betraying the doctrine or would they join in on a 'defend the america's against imperialism' crusade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by novapaddy View Post
    This game mod fully recognises the real life sacrifice that many peoples from many nations, but especially the US and their Allies made during real life world war two, in the defence of Freedom from Tyranny. This is a mod for a game, for entertainment purposes only. Its scenario is a complete a work of fiction.
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    This sounds awesome. Like seriously awesome like hell. I am definitely rooting for this one.

    The French rearming needs some more background work though, since their Leftist coalition was too unstable to intervene in a war like that, especially when it's not Germany. Besides, the French care little for Quebec anyway (Except de Gaulle riling up nationalism there, pissing everyone off); it hasn't been their territory for like several centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supeerme View Post
    Why are you saying this?
    i imagine it's to cover his backside in case someone takes offence at the British fighting the USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supeerme View Post
    Why are you saying this?
    I didn't want to offend anyone. I saw something like this on an old hoi2 mod, and thought it was appropriate.
    I had 2 uncles in the British Navy during the war, one was a petty officer. They served on the convoys to Russia I believe.

    Some people may have sensitivites regarding the material, as I believe the US gets totally screwed in one of my ideas...
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorbird789 View Post
    i think you over estimate the Americans and underestimate the British, the Americans were still fairly behind on war doctrine in 1935 and were quite comfortable at peace, they wouldn't be ready for a full scale war with the British empire. Also around this time the royal navy was still the largest navy on the earth. The only doctrine to surpass Britain at any great amount was Germany in 1940/41 time and the US took their first year of war 'settling in' to it so developed the most then. in the long run the USA would be more powerful because of their industrial base but if Britain destroyed main ports and drydocks on the east coast early on then the USA would have to sail through Pananma which the British could blockade hence leaving the entire east coast without any naval forces.

    What role would other nations play like Brazil,Argentina and Mexico, surely they'd be involved abit because of the Monroe doctrine the USA had implemented. Would they take offence to the USA betraying the doctrine or would they join in on a 'defend the america's against imperialism' crusade?
    Even if slightly behind technologically (for that very short time span), fully mobilized the U.S. would have far more troops than the British. Keep in mind that the U.K. still are fighting from across the world, and the U.S. manpower base is stationed only a few hundred miles from the Canadian capital. I don't think the U.K. could actually beat the U.S., at most they could just stall them in Canada. I do think that a U.S. invasion of the U.K. would be impossible (at least until 1941), though, since the U.S. fleet was still in it's learning stage, although it was the third largest.

    The U.S. was mainly self-reliant on resources until the 1970's, so a blockade would not do much harm to the war output. The only issue I see is the lack of rubber coming in from Congo and Indochina. I don't think a true blockade would be possible on the U.S. from both coasts (the U.S. would block the Panama canal, making a Pacific blockade a pain), though the Eastern sea board is somewhat likely.

    Again, it's just a waiting game. The U.S. had the largest industrial force in the world, remember that their war-time output was larger than the rest of the world combined, and the U.S. didn't even fight the war at the same mobilization level as most other powers (it's argued that they won the war with one arm tied behind their back).

    Basically, if the U.K. can't force a treaty within a year, I think the U.S. would be unstoppable. Within a few years, the U.S. had more capital ships than the rest of the world combined (coming from the third most), countering the only advantage the U.K. would have over the U.S..

    I think that Mexico and most of Central America would come to U.S. aide (at least Central America) due to the U.S. intervention forcing in favorable governments (plus, their overall reliance on the U.S. and similar feelings of liberal views).
    South America is a wild card, I really couldn't say either way. I don't think that any power there would go to war against the U.S., though I'm not sure they'd want to go to war to aide them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.j. Arnold View Post
    Even if slightly behind technologically (for that very short time span), fully mobilized the U.S. would have far more troops than the British. Keep in mind that the U.K. still are fighting from across the world, and the U.S. manpower base is stationed only a few hundred miles from the Canadian capital. I don't think the U.K. could actually beat the U.S., at most they could just stall them in Canada. I do think that a U.S. invasion of the U.K. would be impossible (at least until 1941), though, since the U.S. fleet was still in it's learning stage, although it was the third largest.

    The U.S. was mainly self-reliant on resources until the 1970's, so a blockade would not do much harm to the war output. The only issue I see is the lack of rubber coming in from Congo and Indochina. I don't think a true blockade would be possible on the U.S. from both coasts (the U.S. would block the Panama canal, making a Pacific blockade a pain), though the Eastern sea board is somewhat likely.

    Again, it's just a waiting game. The U.S. had the largest industrial force in the world, remember that their war-time output was larger than the rest of the world combined, and the U.S. didn't even fight the war at the same mobilization level as most other powers (it's argued that they won the war with one arm tied behind their back).

    Basically, if the U.K. can't force a treaty within a year, I think the U.S. would be unstoppable. Within a few years, the U.S. had more capital ships than the rest of the world combined (coming from the third most), countering the only advantage the U.K. would have over the U.S..

    I think that Mexico and most of Central America would come to U.S. aide (at least Central America) due to the U.S. intervention forcing in favorable governments (plus, their overall reliance on the U.S. and similar feelings of liberal views).
    South America is a wild card, I really couldn't say either way. I don't think that any power there would go to war against the U.S., though I'm not sure they'd want to go to war to aide them.
    The UK plan is basically, "hold em till we can rerun 1812"
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    Hey Novapaddy
    i just wanted to let you know that instead of Calgary the attack from North Dakota was actually aimed at Winnipeg in the plan as Winnipeg was the main rail hub of Canada at the time. Calgary was a secondary target
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiserMuffin View Post
    The UK plan is basically, "hold em till we can rerun 1812"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1
    The difference being the U.S., 120 years later, has a far larger population (well, in the homeland) and economy than it did.

    This sentence in that article sums it up best:
    "Brown did not coordinate with the British, so did not know that the Royal Navy thought that defending Canada was impossible and did not plan to send a large army there. His plan would thus have sacrificed the best Canadian troops for no reason."
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    I'm intrigued and certainly hope you can go through with this. But I'm curious how such a war is justified to the American people and to Congress. I cannot understand how "the British have not paid back their loans to us" would be accepted as a legitimate reason to start World War 1.5

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    Thanks for the comments guys, as it helps with ideas.

    My idea so far:
    FDR has made a serious miscalculation. The Manifest Destiny policy has opened up a "can of worms".
    The severe Canadian Winter has come to his aid. Military operations have stopped. The frontlines are still and quiet, for the moment. The Spring thaw approaches.
    The Winter has given the protagonists time to think through the issue.
    But it has also opened up new opportunities for America's enemies.
    Not too much damage or suffering has occurred yet, nothing that cannot be undone...

    Whatever happens, if Germany conquers half of Europe and Britain responds, the USA is not coming to help.
    So already, world history has changed irrevocably. No D-Day, no Operation Torch, no Operation Husky...
    But it's only 1936, and the Powers don't realise the horror Hitler wants to unleash, yet.

    Does Britain decide to attack, as the US is not prepared.
    They may HAVE to, as if they don't follow through now, the wounded US will be a powerful enemy, far too powerful...

    How cohesive is the US population. Will it hold together, "one nation, undivided"?
    There are some in Great Britain, who would do anything to get some American Colonies again...
    .. and why stop there. Probably some in France too? DH is a game of world conquest.

    If Britain and the US go for a proper war...
    What about Japan? Why invade China, when a much better, AND their ultimate target, lies exposed, and vulnerable.

    Germany stands aloof but already Hitler is scheming and planning.
    Will this unexpected war between the "democracies" open up new opportunities for GER?
    Plenty of oil in Texas...

    Stalin muses in the Kremlin. It seems Marks and Engels were right again about "democracies".
    But hasn't the Soviet Union already got enough land?


    Overall, I think this mod opens up all sorts of new gameplay possibilities...
    Playing as GER, I've always ignored the airforce and navy, and just built ARMY!
    Playing this mod, forces me now to have to get to know the navy and airforce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Hilficker View Post
    I'm intrigued and certainly hope you can go through with this. But I'm curious how such a war is justified to the American people and to Congress. I cannot understand how "the British have not paid back their loans to us" would be accepted as a legitimate reason to start World War 1.5
    I have to agree with the above statement. While I enjoy a good tussle with the Yankees, I am not sure why this war would ever happen. Even with the Great Depression, there was just too much trade between Britain and the United States and between Canada and the United States for this to be realistic. Even if the British seriously consider Imperial Preference in 1932, I still have my doubts. I realize that both sides had plans, but there were too many Anglophiles in the US and as mentioned, the Brits didn't want to fight the Americans either. I don't think anyone wanted the 13 Colonies back.

    It's an interesting scenario...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indefatigable View Post
    I have to agree with the above statement. While I enjoy a good tussle with the Yankees, I am not sure why this war would ever happen. Even with the Great Depression, there was just too much trade between Britain and the United States and between Canada and the United States for this to be realistic. Even if the British seriously consider Imperial Preference in 1932, I still have my doubts. I realize that both sides had plans, but there were too many Anglophiles in the US and as mentioned, the Brits didn't want to fight the Americans either. I don't think anyone wanted the 13 Colonies back.

    It's an interesting scenario...
    I can see your point. It does seem implausible?
    Was ARG attack on the Falklands in 1982 implausible? Very much so.
    Was ENG response and re-invasion in 1982 implausible? Very much so.

    But I don't want to get into a conversation over implausibility too much, a little maybe is ok.
    A mod has to have some starting point, and yes although implausible to our modern eyes, back then (from the movie) maybe not so, especially when the historian even considered it a possibility? (book page)
    It's good starting point. It allows lots of new stuff to occur. The possibilities are endless....

    I think overall the mod can be viewed as an Older establised Empire, seeing an Upstart, up-and-coming Empire as a future threat.
    The US attacks. They have initiated this whole crisis. "They started it!"
    Yes FDR has made a monumental mistake, in hindsight... but before it all actually happened, I reckon the Yanks would have been ..
    expecting a walkover, over-in-6-weeks etc etc. Something quick and easy and over and they end up better off, and imposing now over GB.

    But it's only an effort to bring new life to DH. A new scenario. Something new and different.

    Cheers

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    How is the British AI coping with a war in North America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiserMuffin View Post
    How is the British AI coping with a war in North America?
    I'll see if I can get you a pic. So far, Brit ai is doing fine. I haven't touched the US ai yet, and they appear a little "souped up" and stronger than the Brits.
    I'm hoping that I can have the 6 major powers using the same ai.. to even things up.. Will have to try it out and see what happens.

    Because there will be much more naval activity, I'm having to drop the build times, so there will be more ships... but now I've another problem... there are too few naval officers to command the units..

    I'm having a blast doing this. Modding is fab!
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