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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafool View Post
    No offense meant, but it's rather pointless to make assertions about 5.2 when you don't actually have access to it and the people who do are telling you the opposite. I'm not personally using the beta patch at the moment, but if the issues you mentioned are reported as being fixed, then you should satisfied that PI took the time to fix them and not dubious that they can or will.
    But people are stating the opposite in the forum, that 5.2 DIDN'T fix Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicler View Post
    But people are stating the opposite in the forum, that 5.2 DIDN'T fix Japan.
    From what I've seen from the 5.2 feedback, Japan is still a little odd due to the diplomatic restrictions, but there is nothing "broken" with it anymore. As I mentioned, unless you've seen the direct opposite, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that PI is lying about the fixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicler View Post
    But people are stating the opposite in the forum, that 5.2 DIDN'T fix Japan.
    Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ywhtptgtfo View Post
    Where?
    Already said that there is a recent thread created just for this reason, can't remember the name of it, but I think I posted in it so just check my posts I guess. (I can't check my own posts being on probation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafool View Post
    From what I've seen from the 5.2 feedback, Japan is still a little odd due to the diplomatic restrictions, but there is nothing "broken" with it anymore. As I mentioned, unless you've seen the direct opposite, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that PI is lying about the fixes.
    And ofc, I would be thinking that PI is LYING about fixing it, rather than just believing they had fixed it when it's still broken?

    WAIT a minute here, are you saying PI released a broken product on PURPOSE? >_> And then LIED about it working? OMG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicler View Post
    And ofc, I would be thinking that PI is LYING about fixing it, rather than just believing they had fixed it when it's still broken?

    WAIT a minute here, are you saying PI released a broken product on PURPOSE? >_> And then LIED about it working? OMG
    As far as I can tell, it is fixed in the beta. I don't see anything saying otherwise in the beta forum, so I have to assume that all the people using the patch are more credible than a thread I didn't see that supposedly said otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafool View Post
    As far as I can tell, it is fixed in the beta. I don't see anything saying otherwise in the beta forum, so I have to assume that all the people using the patch are more credible than a thread I didn't see that supposedly said otherwise.
    It wasn't in the beta forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicler View Post
    It wasn't in the beta forum
    I understand that. That's why I said that the statement in the beta forum that it's been fixed (and the lack of evidence to the contrary to be found there) sounds more credible than a random thread by someone in the main forum.

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    I never really had a problem with lowering influence, just insult some of them daimyos and they will start hating on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frissdassuboote View Post
    I never really had a problem with lowering influence, just insult some of them daimyos and they will start hating on you.
    The more annoying problem is that the A.I. never forms Japan even when there's only 1 daimyo left. For whatever reason, I remember the Shogunate disbanding right after I captured Kyoto (not annex it). But at other times, capturing Kyoto did nothing.

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    Taking all provinces surrounding Kyoto dismantle Shogunate system. Can be done in two wars by anyone from outside world. This holds true for 5.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicler View Post
    It wasn't in the beta forum
    This renders all your babblings useless, like expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicler View Post
    and many very annoying missions that fire (like build a fleet when you don't want one) etc, and perhaps vassalization missions of nations you would rather have a PU with (though ..yeah)
    Ohh.. So you just want the game to read your mind? That's no problem. I'l just give PI that mind reading code I constructed during todays lunch break..
    It's spelled you, not u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicler View Post
    Already said that there is a recent thread created just for this reason, can't remember the name of it, but I think I posted in it so just check my posts I guess. (I can't check my own posts being on probation)
    Ah-ha. So a post you remember seeing, but no-one else does, says the opposite of what the guys who've tried 5.2beta are saying? In the meantime you're keeping going with the line of "but this dude who's name I don't know said it in this thread I can't show you"? Guess which one I'm going with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panopticon View Post
    Ohh.. So you just want the game to read your mind? That's no problem. I'l just give PI that mind reading code I constructed during todays lunch break..
    No, I don't want a strategy game to make presumptions about the players strategic resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Britain View Post
    This renders all your babblings useless, like expected.
    Why? There are users of the beta forum that doesn't post in beta forum?

    DreadLindwyrm: For example I saw a tale of a frustrated shogun just now, it wasn't that thread, but it's on the first page, seems someone is having problems with Japan.

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    This is the thread he's talking about.

    But in that thread the problem aroused is about a specific case, Japan is not broken in 5.2.

    Chronicler, you know you're behaving like a troll, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MizarNX View Post
    This is the thread he's talking about.

    But in that thread the problem aroused is about a specific case, Japan is not broken in 5.2.

    Chronicler, you know you're behaving like a troll, don't you?
    He always behaves like this, i'm fairly sure that i'm not the only one annoyed at it.


    Really, the problem reported on that thread is not related at all with the japanese mechanics, i remember something similar happening to me when i was playing for HRE unification : I lost any PUs i had with other HRE members after the reform to make all members my vassals, i also didn't keep any juniors of my new vassals after i unified the HRE, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MizarNX View Post
    This is the thread he's talking about.

    But in that thread the problem aroused is about a specific case, Japan is not broken in 5.2.

    Chronicler, you know you're behaving like a troll, don't you?
    If you could read you could see just above that it wasn't the thread I wasn't talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicler View Post
    If you could read you could see just above that it wasn't the thread I wasn't talking about.
    Well, don't you think it'd be your responsibility to provide the link to that thread if nobody remembers it? Why are you on probation anyway?

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