[MEIOU:TD] v5.3.3-Specific Discussion thread

[SpawnRaider]

I noticed that all of my slave producing provinces eventually switch into some other good in months or a few years time no matter if I play some african tribe or European power. The event that pops up treats the province as if it were a colony. These goods are typically never worth as much as slaves and it sort of irritates me. How could I go about changing this?

[TheDarkMaster]

I was thinking of maybe playing as an Italian nation and have the goal of converting Africa to christian. There isn't anything in the game that would stop me from doing that, is there?

[DDRJake]

I was thinking of maybe playing as an Italian nation and have the goal of converting Africa to christian. There isn't anything in the game that would stop me from doing that, is there?

If you want to take the land for yourself, you're fine. If you want to make the countries there all Christian then you'll have to conquer the land then release them to make them Christian countries, either after you convert the land or leaving them to convert it to Christianity themselves.

I'll admit I've barely touched Africa in Meiou though. It's always been too large and useless for my liking, and the African Power achivement in DW left a bad taste in my mouth.

[TheDarkMaster]

I was more worried about any events that automatically cause African countries to turn Muslim if I do leave them be after taking the territories. Or if I might be given trouble if I relocate my capital there and are a Christian nation.

In my last game, Fez was a major power, taking a great deal of islands from Castile, as well as several provinces in south France and southern Italy. Since I was Scandinavia, I was never really in a position to fight them. I thought I'd take on that force directly this game.

[leppuno]

If you want to take the land for yourself, you're fine. If you want to make the countries there all Christian then you'll have to conquer the land then release them to make them Christian countries, either after you convert the land or leaving them to convert it to Christianity themselves.

I'll admit I've barely touched Africa in Meiou though. It's always been too large and useless for my liking, and the African Power achivement in DW left a bad taste in my mouth.

South Africa is pretty useful if you want to conquer Asia. Though I admit I never expand further into the continent.

gigau, could you make Africa more interesting? please (It's my birthday)

[Kiev the Great]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I think the requirements for Germany are too easy. I made it in 1410 with Brandenburg, and then quickly gave up because I had already made myself emperor and had limitless manpower effectively.

[l.blub]

hi, I think I figured out why India turns sunni almost instantly....
if you start up a game you will find those variables in all hindu provinces:
variables=
{
hindu=13.000
sunni=7.000
zoroastrian=1.000
}

but hindu is no religion the term should be hinduism so all hindu provinces start with zero hindus and as the state religions in the major countries on the subcontinent is sunni they all switch to sunni
I don't know why it is that way but the effect is pretty much a extinction of hinduism right at the start of the game...

just a few other things I notice in my games

yorouk culture does not exist at the start of the game so half of anatolia is "noculture"

reformation seems to start pretty early mostly in the mid 14th century

I see a lot of countries blob especially in asia and africa(delhi ming fez mali mamluks) in one game ming went as far as the ural and probably would have went further if I
wouldn't have stopped them
in the mid late game there a usually three major powers in aisa mostly mahajhit some south east asian empire(pegu, dai nam....) and delhi or bahami and they usally are stable enough to last till 1800

the colonization issue of asian countries has already been discussed

denmark and sweden always join the hre entirely, which gives the early emperor a lot of authority and is also completely unhistorical, also countries like switzerland or the north italian countries never leave the empire

some suggestions:

make the asian countries a lot more isolationist and/or exempt them form early colonization ( as I did in my games)

countries that are released as vassals should have a lower rank than the overlord eg a king does not release another king as vassal....
also they should have my state religion



a lot more things I have noticed and/or modded into my game but that's it for now hopefully some of the stuff is usefull

lukas

PS thanks for the amazing mod I really enjoy it

[jusatinbn1]

I have a little problem... Basically, the mod crashes for me after selecting a country and starting a game, during the "load graphics" phase. I believe I've encountered a similar problem some time ago, for MEIOU 5.0 or 5.1, but I can't remember what I did.

I'm running the latest 5.2b (June) patch. Any thoughts, anyone?

[tompalmer]

This mod is far too heavy

[Thalzamar]

I have a little problem... Basically, the mod crashes for me after selecting a country and starting a game, during the "load graphics" phase. I believe I've encountered a similar problem some time ago, for MEIOU 5.0 or 5.1, but I can't remember what I did.

I'm running the latest 5.2b (June) patch. Any thoughts, anyone?

did you do the 4gb patch again after installing latest patch ?
i know it's a standard question but you can never be sure
if yes could you post the contents on the following files of the EUIII logs folder ?
- system_error.log
- error.log
- games.log

they should help the more experienced people figure out what is wrong

edit:

This mod is far too heavy

that is real constructive criticism ...
besides a mod doesn't wheight anything so how can it be heavy :P

[jusatinbn1]

I applied the patch using the NTCore CFF Explorer, so it should be equivalent.

Here are the logs.

Logs.zip

[SirkTheMonkey]

I applied the patch using the NTCore CFF Explorer, so it should be equivalent.

Here are the logs.

Is the Mac stuff in the zip because you're playing on a Mac?

[TheDarkMaster]

Have you disabled the SRI AI?

[jusatinbn1]

It seems disabling the SRI AI solved the problem. Which is quite disappointing, since I assume it enhances the game.

@SirkTheMonkey I am indeed playing on a Mac, using Wineskin.

[Boris ze Spider]

The event with the province name as the title, that reads "The people of (province name) are ashamed of their betrayal" seems very vague to me. What is the point to this event?

[NorwayBernd]

It only occurs for cored provinces you have recently (re)conquered, right?
I'm guessing it represents the gifts to the state that its people give for not having defected earlier or something.

[SirkTheMonkey]

It happens on any province that you control that had been captured during a war and was going to / ready to defect to the other side. It seems a bit odd to me that it gives a flat amount of cash though.

(EDIT) The point of the event is mainly to clean up tags and flags from during the war.

[TheDarkMaster]

Found a small bug with the "Rush of colonists" event. This event is from vanilla, and normally fires if you've got overseas provinces, giving either 3 colonists, or 1 colonist and a boost to overseas income. Since MEIOU features a very different way of getting colonists then vanilla, this can be used by a European nation to get colonists early by conquering a province in Africa for example.

[Boris ze Spider]

It happens on any province that you control that had been captured during a war and was going to / ready to defect to the other side. It seems a bit odd to me that it gives a flat amount of cash though.

(EDIT) The point of the event is mainly to clean up tags and flags from during the war.

The strange thing is that it was a province I conquered without a core.

[SirkTheMonkey]

I suspect it's working properly because there's comments throughout the event showing that it's been updated for MEIOU. Unless the changes to the colonist system happened after the event was touched.

The strange thing is that it was a province I conquered without a core.

Did it have a surrender timer for you?