Ars Lingua Beta!

[pirro]

Lo que se llama 'tilde' en España se llama 'acento' en las Americas, por lo menos en Argentina (vivi alli por casi dos años - ellos hablan de una forma rara)

But all this aside a keyboard simulator would probably be a good idea.

Back to the task at hand: now, do you have any other languages that should be included??

mmm Argentina has its own dialect... I'm spanish but still I use my own dialect, so don't trust any spanish-speaker in general about the tilde-acento matter
Yup, spanish developed diferent dialects () in its colonies... so you might add some "colonial" spanish languages... but I'm not sure about the idea...
Also, you should add things like low german, bavario-austrian language, low-saxon in the netherlands, firisan and you should delete Norwegian... After all, until the XV century most kings were swedish and after that many of them were danish... until they were swedish again And indeed, norwegian is very vague... there is a language called bokmal and another one called nynorsk.
But I'm not an expert on germanic thingies (yet) so I might be wrong and perhaps norwegian did exist in the XV century
EDIT: Also, I'd love to see the faroese as a language and to extend it everywhere Maybe you might add a decision to extend certain language in the administration and your provinces?

[MrTaxman]

mmm Argentina has its own dialect... I'm spanish but still I use my own dialect, so don't trust any spanish-speaker in general about the tilde-acento matter
Yup, spanish developed diferent dialects () in its colonies... so you might add some "colonial" spanish languages... but I'm not sure about the idea...
Also, you should add things like low german, bavario-austrian language, low-saxon in the netherlands, firisan and you should delete Norwegian... After all, until the XV century most kings were swedish and after that many of them were danish... until they were swedish again And indeed, norwegian is very vague... there is a language called bokmal and another one called nynorsk.
But I'm not an expert on germanic thingies (yet) so I might be wrong and perhaps norwegian did exist in the XV century
EDIT: Also, I'd love to see the faroese as a language and to extend it everywhere Maybe you might add a decision to extend certain language in the administration and your provinces?

Good ideas about the colonial dialects - I think I'll leave colonials as a smaller modifier, not a larger modifier like a language (that makes sense to me )

I will be including faroese (even though there is no province to attach it to). Norwegian did exist as a separate language/dialect (actually two of them, at least) in 1400 - Nordnorsk and Vestnorsk, but you're right, the kings of Norway would have spoken Danish or Swedish (or dialects thereof).

Last night I added 76 languages for a total of ~126. Today (or tomorrow, more likely) I will be adding another 40-60 languages. This is turning out to be a bigger mod than I had originally thought!

Keep those ideas coming!

[pirro]

Good ideas about the colonial dialects - I think I'll leave colonials as a smaller modifier, not a larger modifier like a language (that makes sense to me )

I will be including faroese (even though there is no province to attach it to). Norwegian did exist as a separate language/dialect (actually two of them, at least) in 1400 - Nordnorsk and Vestnorsk, but you're right, the kings of Norway would have spoken Danish or Swedish (or dialects thereof).

Last night I added 76 languages for a total of ~126. Today (or tomorrow, more likely) I will be adding another 40-60 languages. This is turning out to be a bigger mod than I had originally thought!

Keep those ideas coming!

Aren't the faroese island somewhere near Scotland in the vainilla? Anyway, I'll wait to see the new languages

[MrTaxman]

The Faroes aren't even in vanilla. The islands off Scotland are Orkeny and Shetland (which both spoke Norn - now extinct - in 1400). But Faroese will be included, for those players who want to add the mod to expanded maps (with more cultures)

[CivOasis]

I wasn't implying the inclusion of all the Iroquois or Mayan languages, but, rather, some more specific ones. Mohawk/Onondoga for the Iroquois, Yucatec/K'iche for the Maya.

It is also important to point out that Cherokee is an Iroqouian language, so..

In terms of the Incans, Aymara was a language of a conquered people, who form major communities in the southern part of that empire's former range.

[MrTaxman]

I wasn't implying the inclusion of all the Iroquois or Mayan languages, but, rather, some more specific ones. Mohawk/Onondoga for the Iroquois, Yucatec/K'iche for the Maya.

It is also important to point out that Cherokee is an Iroqouian language, so..

In terms of the Incans, Aymara was a language of a conquered people, who form major communities in the southern part of that empire's former range.

I see what you mean - specific languages for the Iroquois and Maya, rather than generic terms. Yeah, good idea. Cherokee should also be included - thank!

Aymara will be included as a minority language in the Incan Empire.

[Arakhor]

The modern versions of Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and Icelandic are essentially formalised dialects of the same language. Danish and Norwegian are even written identically, though Icelandic still retains the letter Thorn (hard th) and is the most divergent of the four.

[pirro]

The modern versions of Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and Icelandic are essentially formalised dialects of the same language. Danish and Norwegian are even written identically, though Icelandic still retains the letter Thorn (hard th) and is the most divergent of the four.

You forgot the edd (the weird-looking d) which is still used in some areas of sweden (Jämtland, perhaps?), faroese and icelandic. Although some people say that faroese is a dialect of icelandic, it isn't.
Also, bokmal is like danish, but nynorsk is close to swedish and it is also norwegian

[MrTaxman]

The modern versions of Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and Icelandic are essentially formalised dialects of the same language. Danish and Norwegian are even written identically, though Icelandic still retains the letter Thorn (hard th) and is the most divergent of the four.

I have included the following (and I'm probably forgetting a few); Nordnorsk, Vestnorsk, Sveamal, Gotamal, Norrlandska, Icelandic, Norn, Faroese, Jysk, Hallandsk, Skanske, Gutniska Sydsvenska, Ostsvenska, Dalmal

[Arakhor]

Well, my speciality is most assuredly not mediaeval Norse languages, so I'll leave you to that.

[MrTaxman]

Gee... thanks. ()

[Glinn Mgraw]

West Frisian? Although in game "Friesland" also appears to include Groningen (who speak Gronings) and at least part of Drenthe (who speak Drents), who speak dialects of Low German.

[Gurkbert]

Is the second "d" in Deudsch supposed to simulate the lack of orthography-rules back in the day?
Because it should be Deutsch.

[MrTaxman]

West Frisian? Although in game "Friesland" also appears to include Groningen (who speak Gronings) and at least part of Drenthe (who speak Drents), who speak dialects of Low German.

I've included Frisian - I think that'll probably need to be a catchall group.

[MrTaxman]

Is the second "d" in Deudsch supposed to simulate the lack of orthography-rules back in the day?
Because it should be Deutsch.

Deutsch (Teutsch) is the modern form of German. It used to be called Deudsch (or so I am led to believe) back in 1400.

[Roguedemon]

I'll download this sometime soon to check it out. Out of interest, does the culture get replaced by the language or are they completey different?

[MrTaxman]

I'll download this sometime soon to check it out. Out of interest, does the culture get replaced by the language or are they completey different?

FYI the mod isn't complete - I'm just trying to make sure that all of the coding I have works.
The culture and language are completely separate - perhaps eventually I will make cultural conversions happen faster if they speak the language, but that's not a big priority for me atm

[Roguedemon]

Does language spread at all?

[MrTaxman]

Does language spread at all?

Depends on how you mean:
1) Through decisions made by player/AI = yes
2) Through events - not yet, but planned