Where's the Pope and the Papal State?

bman1234 · May 11, 2012

As Naples, I own Rome. I am also Papal Controller. But I can't find the Pope or the Papal State anywhere in Europe?

Is that because as Controller I have to appoint a Pope, and if so, how do I do so?

William Shakens · May 11, 2012

Once, I conquered Rome and the other Papal provinces and the Papal State appeared in Liege.

I guess there has to be a Papal State, so it appears elsewhere, although I don't know if it does it randomly or there are reasons for its appearance in a specific province.

unmerged(489101) · May 11, 2012

When someone annexes the Papal States, they are recreated somewhere else in the HRE. I don't think you can appoint the Pope yourself.

stnikolauswagne · May 11, 2012

If you cant find him he is probably in Rhodes or Riga or Avignon, these three provinces typically hold countries capable of becoming the papal state.

bman1234 · May 11, 2012

Figured it out

Actually, I just figured it out. If I open the window that shows all the states that are members of the HRE, the shield for the Papal State is there and clicking on it brings me to the province in Germany that is now the Papal Residence.

ZomgK3tchup · May 11, 2012

Leofwine said:
When someone annexes the Papal States, they are recreated somewhere else in the HRE. I don't think you can appoint the Pope yourself.

I didn't know this.

Does anyone know what determines where he moves?

stnikolauswagne · May 11, 2012

ZomgK3tchup said:
I didn't know this.

Does anyone know what determines where he moves?

He moves to a randomly appointed catholic theology. If there are none left he wont be recreated, yet the curia stays in existance.

PiriReis · May 11, 2012

Is there any event or war that represent the sacking of Rome in 1527 in EU3?

xcrissxcrossx · May 11, 2012

PiriReis said:
Is there any event or war that represent the sacking of Rome in 1527 in EU3?

I don't think so but it would be a nice addition.

unmerged(204522) · May 11, 2012

Leofwine said:
When someone annexes the Papal States, they are recreated somewhere else in the HRE. I don't think you can appoint the Pope yourself.

they move to a catholic theocracy, which could be a country not in the HRE.....

unmerged(489101) · May 11, 2012

simon chatfield said:
they move to a catholic theocracy, which could be a country not in the HRE.....

It only happened in the HRE in my games so far (once in Riga, once or twice in Munster), hence my mistake.

Memento Mori · May 11, 2012

PiriReis said:
Is there any event or war that represent the sacking of Rome in 1527 in EU3?

Yes, there is. A province can have the "looted" status

venividivicious · May 11, 2012

In one of my save games religious rebels took over the two settlements that make up Iceland, It ended up becoming the papal states.

Junuxx · May 11, 2012

William Shakens said:
I guess there has to be a Papal State, so it appears elsewhere, although I don't know if it does it randomly or there are reasons for its appearance in a specific province.

Not exactly.

Leofwine said:
When someone annexes the Papal States, they are recreated somewhere else in the HRE.

No.

stnikolauswagne said:
If you cant find him he is probably in Rhodes or Riga or Avignon, these three provinces typically hold countries capable of becoming the papal state.

No.

ZomgK3tchup said:
I didn't know this.

Does anyone know what determines where he moves?

Yes, see below.

simon chatfield said:
they move to a catholic theocracy, which could be a country not in the HRE.....

Correct. See http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/The_Papal_State

ind2bc · May 11, 2012

they pop up in avignon a lot which i don't think is in the HRE it is very annoying as they are a french vassal from there on out

unmerged(489101) · May 12, 2012

Junuxx said:
No.

Well, I admitted I was wrong, no need to rub it in. :/ Thanks for the link anyway – I still have a bit of trouble finding what I want in the wiki.

Junuxx · May 12, 2012

Leofwine said:
Well, I admitted I was wrong, no need to rub it in. Thanks for the link anyway – I still have a bit of trouble finding what I want in the wiki.

For future readers I wanted to summarize and point out several incorrect claims here - please don't take it personal, 'rubbing it in' was not my intention

As for finding stuff like this in the wiki, it can be difficult if you're looking for an event you know that exists, but you don't know the event's title or id. Unfortunately I don't see an easy way around that

unmerged(233159) · May 12, 2012

Watch out that Theocracies don't release too many nations. I had a theocratic Cornwall become the Papal States in one game.

davinewrath · May 12, 2012

You can become the Papal States if you're a Catholic Theocracy and someone else annexes the current one. This happened to me in a game as The Knights.

CyberEagle · May 12, 2012

Really? Sounds awesome. I knew about that part with the random theocracy, but I thoiught the player is excluded from that. Do you get a say in it or does it just happen?
Edit: After reading the event... appearantly not. Wouldn't it be logical for a Crusader state, like the Knights, to declare themself a too violent and dangerous place for the Pope to stay?

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