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We aren't going to deny it, creating friendly puppet states in the Balkans was one of the options we explored when trying to get rid of the Balkans problem. However, we ended up opting to let you solve the problem yourselves.

I still don't understand how that was a threat. It was only an option open to us. And it still doesn't explain why you rejected to buy the land off us for the cheap price of 2-3k.

We apologise to any nation we may have insulted because of our bad outburst. It was clearly wrong for us to do so and we did not mean the words we said. Except for what we said about Russia. That was true.
 
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I am sorry Serbia, but that is blatant lies. Since when have we threatned you? What did we threaten you with? And why on earth would we want to threaten you? Our aim was to sell you land, thus resolving the crisis in the Balkans and improving relations. How would threatening you achieve either of those things?

Additionally, we never tried to divide and conquer your nations. Mainly because conquering you petty nations is not worth the time or effort.

We are also disappointed in France, however we are neither surprised or caring.

How exactly is the Ottoman Empire even able to be disappointed with France? We can only conclude that it is because we support bringing the Balkan nations to the table to discuss a way out of this war, and that would be contrary to the interests of the Ottoman Empire when they decided upon their course of action. If this is truly the case, then we are forced to join the international chorus and condemn the actions of the Ottoman Empire. We expected better from those for whom French men fought and spilled their blood for.

OOC: Making things worse and worse for you...
 
How exactly is the Ottoman Empire even able to be disappointed with France? We can only conclude that it is because we support bringing the Balkan nations to the table to discuss a way out of this war, and that would be contrary to the interests of the Ottoman Empire when they decided upon their course of action. If this is truly the case, then we are forced to join the international chorus and condemn the actions of the Ottoman Empire. We expected better from those for whom French men fought and spilled their blood for.

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No. We are disappointed that you support Russia. We are not disappointed that you support peace. We also support peace and urge all Balkan nations to negotiate and talk, instead of killing and stabing each other in the back.
 
The words of the Ottoman Empire have done little to make the government of the UK less worried and less unhappy about their actions. The Ottomans actions seem to be proving that their neighbors should worry about the safety and stability of both their own lands and the Ottomans lands they border. The Ottomans rule other lands full of people they might one day decide are not worth the trouble of ruling, is this situation to be repeated in the future? Why should we believe otherwise?
 
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No. We are disappointed that you support Russia. We are not disappointed that you support peace. We also support peace and urge all Balkan nations to negotiate and talk, instead of killing and stabing each other in the back.

We support Russia in what? Isn't this question relevant? If all you can distinguish is the difference between no support and complete support of all matters of foreign policy, then I am truly appalled at the huge decline of the Ottoman Empire.

We will then have to ask you to prove your commitment to support peace and repair the damage that was done to the peoples of Ottoman previously controlled territories in the Balkans.
 
The words of the Ottoman Empire have done little to make the government of the UK less worried and less unhappy about their actions. The Ottomans actions seem to be proving that their neighbors should worry about the safety and stability of both their own lands and the Ottomans lands they border. The Ottomans rule other lands full of people they might one day decide are not worth the trouble of ruling, is this situation to be repeated in the future? Why should we believe otherwise?

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As already stated, we did try to find other solutions. However others rejected these solutions. In the end, this was the only option left.

 
We support Russia in what? Isn't this question relevant? If all you can distinguish is the difference between no support and complete support of all matters of foreign policy, then I am truly appalled at the huge decline of the Ottoman Empire.

We will then have to ask you to prove your commitment to support peace and repair the damage that was done to the peoples of Ottoman previously controlled territories in the Balkans.

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We believed that you supported Russia on how they were going to "deal with" us. If this is just a misunderstanding then we apologise.

We don't see how repairing anything would prove our commitment to peace. Surely it would only prove we could repair things.
 
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If the Ottoman Empire thinks they can make themselves look better in the international theatre by using harsh words towards us, then is clear that you are truly are "The Sick Man of Europe". We won't even ask an apologize for such words, because we understand that your nation is having a big inferiority complex, that no matter what you do, you will never be able to compensate your weakness, you will be never be able to stand up to Russia. Go, go and speak bad of Russia, envy us all what you want because the strength of your envy is the speed of our progress.

On another note, since Japan refused to enter peace talks regarding their invasion of Korea, Russia's army is going to be partially MOBILIZED to face the incoming conflict. We ask other nations not to feel threatened with this, once the war is over Russia will be demobilized. We are facing a war and we have to deal with it. Korea integrity as a sovereign nation is under danger and we are the only one willing to stop it.
 
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The French Republic hopes the mobilization is indeed partial and does not include buildups of troops near the Balkans or the Ottoman borders, as it would strain an already delicate situation.

The French Republic warns the Japanese Empire that any attack on civilian ships will be met with immediate retribution by part of the French Navy, who will be placed on high alert.


OOC: Don't even think about hitting my trade routes with Russia.
 
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We are not trying to make ourselves look better in the eyes of the international community. We just don't like you.

And why would we envy or fear you? We are confident that you don't have the courage to attack us or the strength to defeat us.
 
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Are you trying to convince us? Or convince yourself about your statements? We have vast experience in defeating the Ottomans.

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1 Russo-Turkish War (1568–1570)
2 Russo-Turkish War (1571–1574)
3 Russo-Turkish War (1686–1700)
4 Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774)
5 Russo-Turkish War (1787–1792)
6 Russo-Turkish War (1806–1812)
7 Russo-Turkish War (1828–1829)
8 Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878)

All of this, Russian victories. Further explanation needed? We have defended Europe more times than any other else from the Islamic threat your Empire represent. Each of this conflicts, one way or another, were to defend Europe since none of these struggles ever resulted in much change in the balance of power in the Middle East.
 
The Russo-Japanese War, 1901


In Korea, the Japanese continued their relentless push towards Seoul. With the Korean Army pulled back to prepare the defences at Seoul, the only force opposing the Japanese was the Righteous Army, a force of peasants armed with muskets and primitive weapon. Despite a continual flood of volunteers, their complete lack of training and weaponry left the Koreans at a bad disadvantage. Massing their forces near Osan, to the South of Seoul, they decided their best chance was to ambush the weaker of the two Japanese forces before they could unite. Unfortunately for the Koreans, Japanese scouts alerted their commanders to the enemy movements, and they knew where the Koreans would be waiting. Once their artillery was in position, they pounded the Righteous Army for several hours, killing many of them and causing more to flee. After the artillery stopped, the Japanese infantry advanced. The defenders that remained fought to the last man, however this action proved more symbolic than effective. For the cost of nearly a thousand men, the Japanese had crushed the last organised resistance before Seoul itself.

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(Members of the ragtag Righteous Army)


Following this massacre, those who had numbered within the Righteous Army continued to harass the Japanese supply lines and perform hit and run attacks, however, their lack of organisation rendered many of their efforts futile. By the end of spring the Japanese armies had completed their march, and dubbed the Army of Korea they began to invest Seoul.
[-5000 regulars from Japan. Righteous Army crushed.]

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(Japanese soldiers on their way to Seoul.)

In Late May, the Japanese noticed French ships sailing into the Yellow Sea. While they were allies of the Russians, they had not made a declaration against Japanese and so initially no effort was made to follow them. The Japanese naval commander had assumed that the French were sailing to the Chinese mainland to trade; however, he was surprised to see them set off in the direction of the Korean coast, and so sent a small ship to observe. A day later, the Japanese commander received a report that the French had docked at Inchon and been seen offloading various supplies to the local Koreans. Of particular interest were several crates bearing Russian markings; while the commander could not be sure what was within the crates, it seemed clear to him that the French were supporting the Koreans in their war. While he felt he must act upon this knowledge, he knew he did not have the authority to attack the French. Instead, he bombarded Inchon, hoping to destroy whatever the French may have delivered.
[Some supply reaches Korean forces]

Following their treaty with the Korean Empire, the Russians moved to support their new allies against the Japanese invasion. 300,000 men were mobilised, but many of them had to take the long journey across the Trans-Siberian and those that didn’t were too few to challenge the Japanese without support. Even with increased funding, the express was far from complete; most notably Lake Baikal still had to be crossed be ferry. Aleksey Kuropatkin, the main Russian commander in the Far East, had hoped to use the Russian-owned Chinese Eastern Railway to cut through Manchuria, however, he learnt that this was impossible – The Boxers had chosen to capitalise upon the hostilities between Russia and Japan, and had occupied much of the line. News also reached him that the Chinese appeared to be massing for an assault upon Port Arthur. Upon hearing of this, Kuropatkin ordered his soldiers to march into Manchuria and kill any Boxers they could find. Before the order could be dispatched, an aide advised him that to attack the Chinese would not be wise while the Russians were still committed in Korea. Having to decide between Manchuria and Korea, he rescinded his previous order, and was forced to march his army the long way through Russian territory to reach his destination.
[+300,000 conscripts to Russia.]

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(Taking a break from harassing Christians and railways, several Boxers pose for the camera)

Eventually the Russian force, bolstered by the garrison of Vladistock, reached the Tumen River. Bands of Korean volunteers also arrived, wishing to support their Russian allies. Hearing that the Japanese had already begun the siege of Seoul, Kuropatkin rushed his force south with great urgency, forcing the Japanese to divert a large portion of their army to confront the Russians. The Japanese army under Ōyama Iwao was badly outnumbered, able to muster only 150,000 men against the Russian-Korean force 350,000. Yet the Japanese commander knew that his men were well trained and rested in comparison to conscript force of the Allies.

The two forces met some twenty miles north of Seoul where the Japanese had established their position. The better quality of the Japanese gunners clearly showed, as they silenced gun after gun of the Russians, with little in return; this opening action meant that Russian artillery would be ineffectual at best for the duration of the coming battle. Eventually, the infantry engaged, and the Japanese pushed hard against the left flank of the Allied army, gaining ground but at the cost of many lives. In an effort to counter this, General Kuropatkin ordered several units of Korean volunteers as well some Russian units to redeploy from the right flank to their left. At this point, the quality of the Allied force showed its ugly head – morale was suffering from the continual artillery barrage and the redeployment was badly coordinated with few translators available to direct the Koreans. These complications meant the movement caused much of the Allied line to disintegrate into chaos, and realising that his army was in complete disarray the Russian commander ordered a general retreat, establishing his command at Pyongyang. Unable to push against the Russians before they had secured Seoul, the Japanese returned south to settle in for the winter.
[-50,000 conscripts from Russia, -20,000 regulars from Japan]

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(Field Marshal Ōyama Iwao inspecting the battlefield.)

The Russians had also sent their Baltic and Black Sea fleets with the aim of uniting with their Pacific Fleet. Unfortunately the British had taken the decision to block the Suez to all ships of war, forcing the Russians to take the long journey round Africa. When the combined fleets, renamed the 2nd Pacific Squadron, reached the Far East, the 1st Pacific Squadron, stationed in Port Arthur, set off to join them under the cover of night. While most of the 1st Pacific safely reached their compatriots by dawn, a number of small ships found themselves amongst a Japanese squadron stationed off the coast of Korea. Realising their hopelessness, these ships promptly surrendered to the Japanese. Apart from this setback, the operation was generally considered a success, and the combined Russian Pacific Fleet then set about blockading the supply from Japan to the Korean peninsula.
[-5 small ships from Russia, +5 small ships to Japan. Japanese supply lines strained.]

In an effort to open a second front, the Japanese sailed 15,000 soldiers north to the Kuril Islands. After securing the undefended islands for Japan, they chose to rest and resupply, so as to be prepared for their next destination.

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(The current holiday destination for thousands of Japanese soldiers)

 
In reply to the Russian declaration of War on the Empire of Japan, and in accordance with the Treaty of Sapporo, the German Empire hereby declares war on the Russian Empire.

Emperor Willhelm II has today ordered the full mobilisation of the German Army.
 
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We are appalled by the recent turn of events in eastern Europe, the irresponsibility demonstrated by the Ottomans in this unilateral withdrawn from Macedonia and Albania has triggered yet another crisis, and endangered the lives and well being of thousands of what until recently, where citizens of their own state, and now are left to defend themselves from whatever comes their way. However, they are by far surpassed by the infamy displayed by Bulgaria, violating an accord while it's ink hasn't dried yet. All we can do from the distance is hope for a peacefull solution to be found; however, our agents in Europe shall be instructed to give passage to anyone seeking to emigrate from the warzone and come to tranquil America.


OOC: Damnit, update got first :p
 
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OOC: Clearly Argentina does not care for the Russo-Japanese War :p
 
OOC: Clearly Argentina does not care for the Russo-Japanese War :p

OOC: I only care for what I can see while I'm writting, if it pops all of the sudden it ain't my fault :p
 
While we consider the newest developments, we have to remind those nations expanding the Russia-Japan conflict that your warships will also be barred from using the Suez Canal as per current policy. This may or may not be amended but that decision has to be made as part of a greater UK policy on this crisis.