Why isn't the kingdom of Burgundy and Italy in the HRE anymore? Now in all my games they immediately gain independence and keep it within 50 years. Why the change?
They've never been de jure parts of the empire.
you sure you don't mean de facto?They were, but these kingdoms upto now weren't a part of the HRE in CK2.
you sure you don't mean de facto?
Garak's right. You better create the titles if you're HRE (the AI won't AFAIK). Of course it's historical for them to drift away. Optimally, the Italian dukes could declare for the Pope and the Burgundians wander off.
They were, but these kingdoms upto now weren't a de jure part of the HRE in CK2.
A major reason to exclude these kingdoms, is that German nobles and the ruler of Bohemia elected the king of the Romans/German King, not Burgundian and Italian nobles, which kingdoms were attached to the German kingdom.
The dukes of holland never elected HRE, but they're still in it... so yeah.