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    "The Scramble for Europe" — Fridays, 20:00 AEST

    A semi-competitive multiplayer game run for people wishing to play during the Australian/New Zealand timezone, open to all players.

    GM: Taiisatai64
    Host: Jords
    Version: Divine Wind 5.2, probably 20th of April patch.
    Game Time: 20:00 AEST to 00:00 AEST

    Game Settings:

    Difficult: Normal
    AI Aggressiveness: Off
    Spread of Land and Sea Provinces: 75 years

    We will be using Mumble for voice communications and the Steam group Terra Incognita United for organization and text communication.

    Rules:
    1. Wartaxes are allowed.

    2. Lucky nations will be turned off.

    3. Disrespectful treating of other players is forbidden. Any disputes about in game situations are to resolved by the GM. Continual harassment of a player will lead to removal from the game.

    4. It is a players duty to find a sub to fill in for his absence, the GM holds no responsibility to this.

    5. Wrecking your own nation just because you lost is forbidden. So you cant release every possible vassal, or refuse to peace and go to ridiculous lengths to annoy your enemy.

    6. No sale of provinces to nations who cant see said provinces, who cannot get to the province by discovered land or sea route or cant see the sellers capital.

    7. A player can DOW another player's vassal IF { that vassal is not allied with its overlord AND the player has no truce with the overlord }

    8. Bargains between players will NOT be enforced. If a player does not hold his side of a bargain he made, the sanction is to have other players know it and act in consequence. Deals made in peace will be enforced by the GM, unless deemed silly.

    9. Going to war with another player just for the lulz is not allowed. Fake wars are allowed, but must be announced as fake.

    10. A steam account is required to have for easy communication. It is free and easy to use.

    11. Reason for the steam account is you must be a part of and inside the group chat. If you are not already part of the game, add me on steam and I will invite you.

    12. War aims must be stated when declaring war. These aims can change and are not required to be the final peace terms straight up.

    13. If a player is absent, their nation will be granted immunity for the duration of the session, meaning that intentionally affecting the nation is banned, and if war does occur, white peace should be sought as soon as possible. Damage to the nation will be reset through edits, if reasonable. If they are absent two sessions in a row, the nation will no longer be protected.

    14. I cannot stress this one enough: abuse of ANY game mechanic in a way deemed unfair, such as perma-warring the Crusade target for the bonuses, is BANNED. Please note, wartax farming is allowed, as it gives enough war exhaustion to hinder large nations, and not enough gold to seriously help small nations.

    Peace Rules:
    Basically, there are no peace rules. Only karma. If you demand a lot, expect to give up a lot if ever defeated. If you continuously ask for little when you win a war, expect to have little to be asked of you if you lose a war.

    For new players, it is advisable to work through diplomacy and ask for only a few provinces in peace deals until you get more experienced. You don't want to win a war, ask for a whole lot, then have a more experienced player come by and ruin your nation because he can demand a lot from you in return for you demanding a lot from another nation.

    There are, however, rules on how you may peace out of wars:

    1. Peacing a player trough an AI is prohibited. There is an exception to this rule based on the fact that the AI nation was a player in the last session which was unable to find a sub.

    2. A surrender is a surrender, and is definitive. Once you invoke surrender, peace must be agreed to. You may not sit on his land refusing peace to drive up his WE and drive down his treasury, you must present your demands out ASAP. If the session ends after a surrender but before peace is worked out, get the peace deal finalized before the beginning of the next session. If the person who surrendered doesn't like the peace deal being offered by the attacker, he reserves the right to withdraw his surrender and continue fighting. Peace deals will be enforced by the GM and must be kept to. If a player is found to invoke surrender to give himself time to build back up when he has no intention of actually peacing, in the future players may continue to siege him whilst peace is agreed to.

    3. Whenever there are two players in a war and one of them is the alliance leader, the alliance leader may not peace out with an enemy nation without the explicit permission of all the other player nations in the alliance. If this rule is not followed, the other player nations reserve the right to request that they be edited back into a state of war with the same strategical situation as when the alliance leader peace deal was made.

    Rehosting:
    It is a players right to receive 2 rehosts per session. The procedure of rehosting is pretty familiar to you all ,of course, but I will sum it up just in case:
    1. Host saves the game and GM tells everyone to restart their game.
    2. Players rejoin the game
    3. GM makes a headcount, tells everyone to select nations and tells the host to load the save.
    4. Game starts again.

    Please be alert in case of a rehost, no one wants a long dragging rehost, we want to have a fast routine evertime we need to rehost. Continual failure to co-operate in a fast rehost will cause us to leave without you. Our goal is to achieve a 5 minute deadline on rehosting. After your second drop, you will have to wait until the next rehost, if any come at all. In this time your nation will be AI'd. Keep stationary at steam so I can notify you fast when you will receive an rehost.

    If anyone crashes during a game, or gets disconnected, that player must contact me on Steam to notify his condition and I will patch through when to receive a rehost. I am always available on Steam during the games and will instantly see if someone notifies me on Steam.

    If a player is at war at his third drop, and notifies me of his return, we will rehost. As a GM, I retain the right to shorten the rightful rehosts to 1 later on in the game, or decide not to rehost a second time for a player, or to rehost a third time for a player. I also reserve the right to give a rehost at any given time.

    I wish to note here, even if we get to 1820, the rehost rule is still in effect.

    Player List:

    1. Taiisatai64 - The Most Serene Republic of the Mediterranean (Venice)
    2. King - The Kingdom of France (France)
    3. Nunn - The United Kingdom of England, Ireland and Scotland (Great Britain)
    4. KneeHi - The Kingdom of Northern Germany (Brandenburg)
    5. miotas - The Duchy of Austria (Austria)
    6. Jords - The Osmanli Devleti (Ottomans)
    7. cawx - The United Principalities of Russia (Russia)
    8. Handigeharrie - The Kingdom of Egypt (Mamelukes)
    9. RolloX - The Kingdom of Milan (Milan)
    10. NEED NEW PERM - The Kingdom of Sweden and Denmark (Sweden)
    11. Izob - The Sultanate of Morocco (Morocco)
    12. Digitalphase - The Kingdom of Castille and Leon (Castille)
    Last edited by Taiisatai64; 04-06-2012 at 13:08.

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    1. England
    2. Castille
    3. Hansa
    4. Venice
    5. Portugal
    Last edited by Vainfall; 28-04-2012 at 22:09.

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    Brandenburg
    Brandenburg
    Hansa
    Holland
    Ottoz
    Quote Originally Posted by Pewt View Post
    KneeHi: Can he be trusted???
    More at 11.

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    I think, maybe, I'll play Bavaria...

    Bavaria
    Venice
    Hansa
    Bohemia
    Brabant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiisatai64 View Post
    I think, maybe, I'll play Bavaria...

    Bavaria
    Venice
    Hansa
    Bohemia
    Brabant!
    play venice, or milan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiisatai64 View Post
    I think, maybe, I'll play Bavaria...

    Bavaria
    Venice
    Hansa
    Bohemia
    Brabant!
    Bavaria sucks, sign up as venice instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiisatai64 View Post
    I think, maybe, I'll play Bavaria...

    Bavaria
    Venice
    Hansa
    Bohemia
    Brabant!
    With a dumb Austria i think it's possible to survive, but otherwise it's a bad country for MP. And miotas doesn't look dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-King View Post
    Bavaria sucks, sign up as venice instead
    But I want to play a German nation and aim for forming Germany

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiisatai64 View Post
    But I want to play a German nation and aim for forming Germany
    You need Brandenburg to form Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiisatai64 View Post
    But I want to play a German nation and aim for forming Germany
    Brandenburg would be a good bet, but it's already claimed. You could go for TEU-Prussia. Unfortunately the German region seems fairly full in terms of players.

    Quote Originally Posted by The-King View Post
    You need Brandenburg to form Germany.
    You don't need it, but it's one of the easier nations to do it with.
    -Ruanek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruanek View Post
    Brandenburg would be a good bet, but it's already claimed. You could go for TEU-Prussia. Unfortunately the German region seems fairly full in terms of players.



    You don't need it, but it's one of the easier nations to do it with.
    I was talking about the province of brandenburg :P

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    I don't personally think having a Bav would be good for the campaign, not without a Bur. Hab is kind of the counter balance to Fra, and putting a huge thorn in Hab's side would not be entirely healthy for the balance of their match up. Ven, Mlo, Hsa, Hol, pol would all be better chances at the moment. Particularly the first two.

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    I agree, if i was playing austria... i would annex Bav... then release it... then cancel the vassal... then PU :P Naughty player Bavaria
    Quote Originally Posted by Pewt View Post
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    More at 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KneeHi View Post
    I agree, if i was playing austria... i would annex Bav... then release it... then cancel the vassal... then PU :P Naughty player Bavaria

    exactly what i was thinking actually.. it would be a painful thorn for hab in the short term though that slows them down vs their rival fra, but in the longterm, meaningless. tay actually shows up on time and doesnt play horrible unless he's ottos, i think it'd be better for him to play italy, holland, or one of the other nations we still need, instead of just saying "well i suck so im gonna play a shitty nation anyways"



    i also think we need either a mamelukes... i think if we pack up yurop and leave ottomans alone.. simply too strong. Look at the MegaFrance game... I have the largest army in the world without ever inheriting, and that's competing with mega russia, mega france that owns england, and ridiculous mega habsburg. Imagine the ottos having my army, while fra/rus/hab aren't mega. It may be good to postpone a week or maybe even two until we have the players we need.


    focusing exclusively on yurop, i think we need


    Land Nations:

    France
    Brandenburg
    Austria
    Milan
    Russia
    Ottomans
    Mamelukes
    (Maybe Burgundy/Boh|Bav)

    Naval Nations

    England
    Spain
    Holland
    Venice
    Hansa
    Scandinavia
    (Maybe Portugal/Genoa)


    This is just my idea, but I think the nations would be reasonably balanced unless somehow russia beat everyone to china and conquered it all, or ottomans beat the naval empires to India.. I'm obviously not the most experienced though
    Last edited by Vainfall; 28-04-2012 at 10:22.

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    Austria
    Ottomans
    Muscowy

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