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    For the Glory 1337 - Game of Thrones I

    Gameday: Sunday 19.00 - 23.00
    Start april 29th if full

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    England - Delian
    France -
    Spain -
    Austria -
    Russia - Urko
    Brandenburg -
    OE - Avalanche

    Something Italian
    Perhaps Denmark that can turn into Sweden

    Imperator_POL
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    Vassalization:

    If you get vassalised by a human player you must stay that way for 20 years, unless the overlord chooses to break it. After 20 years the vassal can break vassalage, but must do so by DOWing the overlord, unless otherwise agreed between them and their erstwhile master.

    1. Any NAP agreement signed for a duration exceeding 20 years is null for whatever portion extends beyond the 20 year period, meaning that either side can declare it invalid past that point without taint to their honor. This does not prevent from regularly renewing NAP agreements, but at no given time can anybody be sure of the security of a border for decades and decades or even centuries, as often occurs.
    2. This makes #1 a little redundant, but now any agreement with clauses that extend for over 20 years can be broken after the 20 year period without a loss of honor.
    3. As a vassal :
    * You cannot enter any other alliance than that of your overlord, nor start one of your own unless ok'd by your leader(excepting AI that are your vassals).
    * You must accept a proposal of TA/MA from your overlord.
    * You are not allowed to start any wars without permission of your overlord.
    * You cannot give MA to any power without your Overlord's consent.
    * You are *not* required to dow someone at the command of your overlord, send him cash at his command, provide troop support, or help him in any other way not included in the five clauses above.

    4. The land-naval slider will be reset to 5 between every session. You are allowed to make slider moves, but just be aware that you will lose them at the end of the session.

    5. Using certain exploits is forbidden. See below for more details.

    * Attacking an enemy fleet with pirates, and attacking with small fleets to hinder an enemy shore landing.
    * Releasing one or more vassals during wartime, to hinder an enemy.
    * Force-burning of manufactories, i.e. repeated move and halt orders to an
    army in a province with a manufactory.
    * Using lag to your advantage. This includes (but is not limited to):
    Sending lag colonists, building lag fortresses, sending lag missionaries,
    using lag diplomats. (The exception is using lag diplomats to send cash).
    * Declaring a 'fake' war on a country, with the aim to:
    * Increase the stability of the nation you declare war on.
    * Change the religion of a protestant or Counter-Reformed-Catholic
    nation back to Catholicism before the Edict of Tolerance.
    * Exploiting Simultanity: Using the game engine to break a deal, that would
    occur simultaneously in the real word. This includes (but is not limited
    to) the 'sale' of something in game. A break of any aspect of a deal after the initial exchange, like a refusal to continue to make payments or maintain a monopoly, is ok. However, if a peace deal is made that requires staggered payments or monopoly rights or anything like that, it MUST be honored by the tributary for the duration of the five year truce.
    * Converting from Catholiscism to either Counter-reformed-Catholicism or
    Protestantism and then switching back to Catholiscism before the Edict
    of Tolerance.
    * Trading maps with the AI.
    * Sending loans to the AI.
    * Signing a peace deal with the AI, that bankrupts it in the same day.
    * Ceding TPs to reduce Bad Boy.
    * Deploying pirates for any reason(the only things people do with pirates tend to be heavy on the gamey side).
    * Using MA to deprive another country of supplies without being at war with them
    * Using MA to place 1 ship fleets in another country's ports in order to maintain them there for spying without the other person having any way of dislodging them.

    8. no exploration with 100 or 100+ ships. Within known seazones avoiding attrition with 100+ ships is allright
    9. when pausing the game, communicate with all other players
    10. * Breaking a truce, except when the truce is a result of a province swap
    deal in game, or when ok'd by both parties. You are not allowed to dow AI alliance members or vassals of
    someone you have a truce with.
    11. Brandenburg will become Prussia in 1701 no matter what
    12. Spanish bankcrupty events will be slept and insteed the Gold Inflation Rule used. All nations with goldincome in the session ending after or close to 1575 and 1650 will be edited 1% inflation per 150 gold income taken from stats.
    13. No claiming DOTF or converting to counter reformed catholicism.
    14. No trading maps, period. Asking for MA and using it to explore the others territory is ok, as is sacking the capital for maps.
    15. Trade inflation will be applied every third session, starting in the session after or close to 1575. After deducting 400D, trade income will result in inflation at a rate of 1 for every 1000.

    Force peace rule:

    Case 1: War between two nations.
    If one side manages 99 warscore, the loser is at -3 stability and the war has been going on for at least 5 years, the winner can force peace with a stab-hitting peace offer.

    Case 2: War between an alliance of 2 or more versus 1 nation (gang).
    For any separate peace, see case 1.
    If the alliance leader wants to force peace for the alliance against the 1 nation, he requires 99 alliance warscore and 99 warscore of his own (separately).

    Case 3: War between 2 alliances of 2 or more nations.
    For any non-alliance peace between two nations, see case 1.
    For any alliance to separate nation peace deal (for any member of the other alliance, even leader), see case 2.
    If the winning alliance's leader wants to force-peace the whole other alliance, he needs 99 warscore for his alliance on the other alliance and 99 warscore of his own against the losing alliance leader. It is the losing leader's stability that is taken into consideration.


    Examples:
    Alliance 1: FRA, BB
    Allaince 2: HAB, ITA, SPA
    FRA gets +99 ws on HAB while BB gets +10 ws on HAB. ITA and SPA have 0 warscore. Alliance 1 now has +99 ws on HAB and leader FRA has +99 ws. They can force-peace HAB when HAB gets -3 stab and after 5 years.
    HAB is force-peaced.
    Then ITA gets +50 ws on FRA and SPA gets +50 ws on FRA. Alliance 2 now has +99 ws on Alliance 1, but leader ITA only has +50 ws on leader FRA. They can not force-peace.
    ITA now gets +99 ws on FRA and FRA gets +20 ws on SPA. Leader ITA can still not force-peace leader FRA for alliance, as Alliance 2 only has +79 ws on Alliance 1. But ITA can force-peace FRA separately, as they have +99 ws.
    FRA is force-peaced separately, splitting the wars into: ITA vs BB and SPA vs FRA, BB.
    Force-peace is now following cases 1 and 2.

    NEW RULES:
    1) Warships can not be used in Europe for battle. They can be used for transportation, but if engaged by another fleet, they must retreat immediately. Europe will be defined as all of the Mediterranean, and all coastal provinces of Europe, excluding Iceland, and ending off the Southern tip of Spain.

    2) If you attack an AI vassal of another human, you must absorb whatever stabhits are necessary for the overlord to enter the war against you. If you have an RM, you must break the RM. If they have MA, you must cancel their MA so they can DOW. If it costs a stab for them to DOW, you must DOW them. If they can simply DOW you without any cost to stab, then you need not do anything.

    3) Building manus in another's provinces(acquiring provinces temporarily to build on them, and then returning the province), is illegal.
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    Please post what nation you would like
    Last edited by Aladar; 25-04-2012 at 23:19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aladar View Post
    Gameday: Sunday 19.00 - 23.00

    Perhaps Denmark that can turn into Sweden
    Why cant we trigger the norweigan event that release Sweden when we start?

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    Might work as well.....i tend to like playing scandinavian nations
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    Another solution is using an edited scenario where already Sweden exists, instead of needing to stop the game later on?
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    Sunday is ok for me. I woudl like to play France. Where can i download that 1337 scenario?

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    Sunday? Oh well.

    If it turns out I can play:
    -Spain
    -France
    -England

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    Im loving the game title , and sundays yay.

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    Where are rules 6, 7 & 8?

    Another question... what is the problem with warships in Europe? :/. Not that as Russia it matters to me, even would be favourable to that nation, but I want no discrimations due to sex, race or hull broadness unless given a good reason xD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urko View Post
    Where are rules 6, 7 & 8?

    Another question... what is the problem with warships in Europe? :/. Not that as Russia it matters to me, even would be favourable to that nation, but I want no discrimations due to sex, race or hull broadness unless given a good reason xD.
    We used that last game to make the poorer nations able to use naval warfare in Europe, without having to spend the enormous amounts of gold it costs to build 800 warships, which most likely only a few heavy trader nations are able to afford.

    I think it was a great success and we have a lot more naval warfare with everyone able to afford cheap galleys.
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    It was a copy paste, no idea what rules 6 and 7 used to be
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    btw i wont be able to start this sunday. perhaps we can make it sunday 6th may?

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    Can you add Poland to the country list? I would like to play this nation. Imo it's important nation beetwen power of Russia, and Germany.

    About rules, you may consider "Each county or alliance has 100k soldiers limit during beach landing" rule. It's againts no attrition for transporting soldiers on ships.

    Also about leaders. Delian wrote me, that you generate same types of leaders for all. Isn't better, that player can chose what kind of leaders can pick?

    PS. Iam sry for my english, if there is something not understadable Delian will explain it for me, cause we chat about it today.

    edit:
    One more thing, about core's. i dont know how the situation is in final scenario, but if its same as in the standard its quite unfair imo.
    Russia got 17 cores
    Brandenburg 9
    Poland 12
    France 11

    And now there are some coreadding events. Poland can't use it (to inherit lithuania because of techgroup change and orthodox for poland is dead for country). Brandenburg got cores very late, but Russia got quite earlie lot's of cores. It's not quite fair imo, even if cores give you only soldiers amount you can "build". In polish campaigns we play, that country gain core on a province if it keep it for 50 years. What you think about it?
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    Maybe it would be an important nation if we had germany at all, which we don't as Austria and Brandemburg are both empty.
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    Yea, but both nations are on the list, so propably its just matter of time for someone to pick it.
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    whops. Sorry about the link, didn't know i wasn't allowed to post it
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    I need to see before the mod.

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    I have seen 5 players' games working in FTG.
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