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    UNIT LIST (short form)

    All units in the game, in pretty random order (some civilian units omitted):

    F-22 FixedwingAircraft
    F-35A FixedwingAircraft
    F-35B FixedwingAircraft
    F-35C FixedwingAircraft
    F/A-18 Super Hornet FixedwingAircraft
    EA-18G Growler FixedwingAircraft
    Eurofighter Typhoon FixedwingAircraft
    JAS 39 Gripen FixedwingAircraft
    MiG-29K FixedwingAircraft
    Su-27SM FixedwingAircraft
    Su-35 FixedwingAircraft
    Sukhoi Su-50A FixedwingAircraft
    Sukhoi Su-50C FixedwingAircraft
    E-3 Sentry FixedwingAircraft
    Beriev A-50U Shmel FixedwingAircraft
    Ilyushin Il-78 FixedwingAircraft
    Boeing KC-767 FixedwingAircraft
    E-2 Hawkeye FixedwingAircraft
    Lockheed P-3C Orion FixedwingAircraft
    Boeing P-8A Poseidon FixedwingAircraft
    B1 Lancer FixedwingAircraft
    Tupolev Tu-22M3 FixedwingAircraft
    Tupolev Tu-95 FixedwingAircraft
    Tupolev Tu-160 FixedwingAircraft
    Boeing 767 FixedwingAircraft
    Dassault Falcon 20 FixedwingAircraft
    MQ-9 Mariner FixedwingAircraft
    M-47B Pegasus FixedwingAircraft
    Sukhoi Skat FixedwingAircraft
    BAE Taranis FixedwingAircraft
    Camcopter S-100 Helicopter
    NH90 NFH Helicopter
    AW101 HM2 Helicopter
    AW159 Lynx Wildcat Helicopter
    SH-60B Seahawk Helicopter
    Kamov Ka-27 Helicopter
    MIM-23 Hawk SAM LandInstallation
    NASAMS 2 SAM LandInstallation
    RBS 23 SAM LandInstallation
    Rapier 2 LandInstallation
    S-400 Triumf LandInstallation
    TOR SAM LandInstallation
    Sentinel Radar LandInstallation
    TOR Radar LandInstallation
    Giraffe Radar LandInstallation
    Ula Submarine
    Virginia Submarine
    Ohio Submarine
    Astute Submarine
    Shchuka-B Submarine
    Yasen Submarine
    Lada Submarine
    Type 212 Submarine
    Gotland Submarine
    Arleigh Burke SurfaceShip
    CG Ticonderoga SurfaceShip
    Admiral Gorshkov SurfaceShip
    Steregushchiy SurfaceShip
    Hamina SurfaceShip
    Visby SurfaceShip
    Skjold SurfaceShip
    Fridtjof Nansen SurfaceShip
    Type 23 Frigate SurfaceShip
    Type 45 Destroyer SurfaceShip
    Iver Huitfeldt SurfaceShip
    Absalon SurfaceShip
    Sachsen SurfaceShip
    Baden-Württemberg SurfaceShip
    Brandenburg SurfaceShip
    Halifax SurfaceShip
    Gawron SurfaceShip
    De Zeven Provinciën SurfaceShip
    Kirov SurfaceShip
    Mistral SurfaceShip
    Slava SurfaceShip
    Nimitz SurfaceShip
    Wasp SurfaceShip
    Queen Elizabeth SurfaceShip
    Admiral Kuznetsov SurfaceShip
    Udaloy II SurfaceShip
    Udaloy I SurfaceShip
    Project 206MR Vikhr SurfaceShip

    More details will be published later.

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    Why HAWK and not Patriot?
    Hawk is allready out of service in nearly all user nations and in 2030 it will be a museum piece.
    Also Gawron class is dead. Cancelled.
    Lada is apparently cancelled in favor of improved Kilos.
    Why no german K 130 Braunschweig class?
    They suck but they will most likely be still in service in 2030 and will be much more useful in this sort of conflict than the F 125 class.
    "ei sink ei si not reit? All män sit hier and luck in se son and no män work? Sis give it not!"

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    Happy to see the JAS 39 Gripen, Gotland class submarine & Visby class corvette.

    Thanks for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntEater View Post
    Why HAWK and not Patriot?
    Ack. We have the Patriot in the game, but somehow it fell out off my list. Oh well. I'll export it again.

    Also Gawron class is dead. Cancelled.
    We know, but we don't like it, so it's in the game.

    We made the unit selection and all that before certain changes happened. Still fun to play with.
    Lada is apparently cancelled in favor of improved Kilos.
    Maybe, maybe not. We'll see what the Russians decide next week. We took the decision a long time ago. It's here, it's cool

    Why no german K 130 Braunschweig class?
    They suck but they will most likely be still in service in 2030 and will be much more useful in this sort of conflict than the F 125 class.
    Quite the opposite; in this game's conflict any platform with 2 helicopters and 8 ASMs is at least useful for something, even if it needs babysitting to survive any air or missile threat. The Braunschweig is very cool, but not really for blue water operations, which is why we left it out in favor of Baden-Württemberg. K130 has no real helicopter (we have included the Camcopter mostly for laughs), and helpless against air. Preferably we'd have both, but I'm sure you understand we have to prioritize.
    Last edited by JanH; 12-04-2012 at 21:54. Reason: ack. forgot harpoons are out on F125

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    That was why I wondered about K 130.
    But perhaps the Campcopter and the next 5 UAV designs for K 130 will all be cancelled as well.
    When I put the K 130 into Harpoon 3 DB2000 in 2002 or so, the design still had 4 RB 15, 8 polyphems, 2 RAM launchers and 2 Seamos UAVs...
    Perhaps use Gawron's 3d model for K 130?
    It is the same basic design, only larger

    I know you have to prioritize, so please don't take criticism too personal, you did a great job!
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    That might be a good idea. Thanks!

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    I'Ve got a question: I found a screenshot of the Sachsen class (nice model btw.) but in it's weaponliste there was no sign of the two RAM launcher. Did you forget them? Or was it an old screenshot from the Beta?

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    I have almost played through NATO campaign now.
    I think i noticed some strangeness on the Gripen and Visby class.
    All those units ingame seems to carry RBS-15 Mk.III
    Gripen should carry RBS-15F
    Visby-class should carry RBS-15Mk.IV
    These weapon systems have quite different maximum range.
    Mk.IV is still in development but it is said that it's range will be over 1000km.

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    CaptainShow: You are quite right. We have forgotten the RAM on Sachsen.

    Brisse: Of course the Gripen should have Rbs.15F anti-ship missiles instead.

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    Ah, thanks for the answer. I assume that the 42 Ram will get fixed sometime in the future, because you anounced fixes relating to other "errors" like this in other threads.

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    Yes, that will be fixed. No timetable on exactly when, though.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/ice-cap-melts-...072343565.html

    Just a little reminder, how very likely that someday this cold war might turn hot. Didn't know about those Sweedish boys who died in the C130 crash, my condolences. Crazy stuff to think about, gaming what might happen. Back in 08, Combat Mission Shock Force came out. The premise was a NATO invasion of Syria following a civil war..............yeah I know. I was a soldier once, but I certainly have no desire to see the world go at it like this. Naval wars are the most deadly, with the greatest loss of life and material in the shortest amount of time! Got a little shiver reading this, so enjoy!!!

    BTW - Where is my Seawolf??? :P
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    Scary stuff indeed!

    Yeah, let's keep naval wars to naval games.

    Alas, Seawolf made way for Virginia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakai007 View Post
    http://news.yahoo.com/ice-cap-melts-...072343565.html

    Just a little reminder, how very likely that someday this cold war might turn hot. Didn't know about those Sweedish boys who died in the C130 crash, my condolences. Crazy stuff to think about, gaming what might happen. Back in 08, Combat Mission Shock Force came out. The premise was a NATO invasion of Syria following a civil war..............yeah I know. I was a soldier once, but I certainly have no desire to see the world go at it like this. Naval wars are the most deadly, with the greatest loss of life and material in the shortest amount of time! Got a little shiver reading this, so enjoy!!!

    BTW - Where is my Seawolf??? :P
    It was five (flight crew + extra officer) Norwegian military personnel that died in the C-130 crash into a Swedish mountain.

    There is a thread about this becoming a real conflict here: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...ing-a-reality-)

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    Realin, thanks for the correction and the link. I served in the US Army for a time, when I hear of the loss of soldiers from any nation, I manage a silent prayer at least for their families. Courage and self sacrifice seem to be in short supply these days :/
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    one question..why did you not put F-15C in game?? i mean you got Mig-29 so why no F-15C??

    (i dont know much about things )

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    We simply had to limit the number of units we could put into the game before launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanH View Post
    We simply had to limit the number of units we could put into the game before launch.
    oh okay...so is there any possibility to add them in future?? like in a DLC or something?/ (i wont mind paying for it)

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    There will be new units added through DLCs

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    I know the US involvement is limited but surely by 2030 the US would have more Gerald R Ford class carriers, enough to put at least one to the North Atlantic? I'm only seeing the Nimitz class which while still awesome, by 2030 they'd be pushing the end of their life spans...

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