I got the "Conquer Lothian" mission as England, but because Lothian is the scots capital, you can't sue them for peace and demand it. Are you supposed to conquer all of Scotland and annex them (i.e. is the mission completely misnamed), or is there actually a way to just "conquer Lothian"?
Mission system is annoying. >_>. Guess you have to live with it.Originally Posted by steevm
Nope, unless someone has a truly sneaky way of doing it, you're pretty much in the poo with that mission - best to cancel it.
You could do it eventually, but it would take two wars, & luck, & a horrible lot of infamy. If you were to capture the regions around Lothian (at 4 infamy each!), then with luck Scotland would move its capital somewhere else, allowing you to take Lothian in your next war.
It's dicey though, & inefficient. Assuming you're in the early game, you're better off cancelling & hoping for one of Engalnd's golden missions, like vassalise Scotland.
At least it gives you a CB, so you can bring them to vassalization size in the first war, and vassalize in the second one.
I dunno if this has changed since IN, but you could cut off a capitol from the rest of the country, then if the next time you go to war with them you can either take their capitol and only their capitol, or just grab things normally.
There's no specific "Conquer Lothian" mission, I guess this is the conquer neighbour or conquer core mission? If so we probably want to fix the mission to not pick a capital province unless it's a OPM.
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Best to just cancel it. England has some really good missions, including two or three different ones for vassalizing and/or conquering Scotland. You might get one of those or the Conquer Ireland as replacement.
AndrewT - may also want to look into the mission - I forget the exact title - but the one where you diploannex an existing vassal and it gives you a core on their capital. I'm getting unlawful territory off that in the HRE because it only gives a core on the one province.
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Is that the OP's issue, or a new one you're raising here? If the latter, please start a fresh thread in Bug Reports for a new issue, thanks.
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That would be nice, missions like the OP is dealing with happen a lot, make you conquer an entire country, for a core on just the capital are always missions i dread, even for a free core.
New but similar; they're both related to the missions not recognizing that the target country isn't an OPM.
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Yup, those ones are annoying. The Conquer one I want fixed, but the diploannex I can live with, since it is at least a decent mission. Stupid build manufactory...
Maybe that one should check current money vs cost of a manufactory? To the suggestions thread for 5.2 i go...
According to the eu3wiki (updated to DW)
Acquisition conditions:
Not be a Nomad nation
Not be a Vassal
Do not have Core on the target province
Target province not a Colony
Have relations below 0 with the owner
Have same culture as target province
Not currently be seiging the province
Current controller not a Vassal of us
Be at peace
Have discovered the target province
You or the owner not be in the HRE
Not a province owned by the Papal State
Not the Capital of a the controller
Not Japan unless there is only one Daimyo
Success conditions: Control the target province
Failure conditions: No longer neighbour the target province
I am guessing that the command line { is_capital = no } does not work or is formatted incorrectly within the OR statement of the conquest.txt file
edit-quoted the right person this time
Last edited by Turrosh Mak; 10-04-2012 at 07:48.
That clause is there in the "conquer a neighbour" and "conquer a port" missions, but not in "conquer a core". That's why I was hoping the OP would clarify which actual mission he had.
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Here's my mission:
Scotland has captured Orkney, but is otherwise the same as at the start of the game. So it's not one province.
That is the Conquer Neighbour mission, and definitely has the is_capital=no clause in it. I'm pretty sure that clause works or we'd know about it by now, it's used quite a bit. Very puzzling. You are 100% sure Lothian is the Scots capital at this point, they haven't moved it elsewhere?
Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death .... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man. Bertrand Russell
Which game version/which patch are you playing, steevm?
I'ts DW - EU3 v5.1 (EHLT), no mods, should be up to date (via steam).
Seeing as I took more than 10 years between getting the mission and actually declaring war, I loaded up an old save before the mission was issued to check whether the capital had been moved. In the save just after completing the previous mission, there's a crown over Lothian - I'm assuming that means it's the capital.
No, that rule still applies. The trouble is that sea routes count as a connection, so the only way to cut off a coastal province is to capture every other coastal province in the country.
All of Scotland's provinces are coastal.
You've done something to the game. (or the map cache is completely screwed, but unlikely given your checksum)
5.1 official BJLT 07/22/11
Your checksum is wrong, so its hard to verify that the mission hasn't changed.
I haven't done anything, but does that mean steam hasn't auto-patched to the latest version?
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