Improvements to Mesoamerica

[Leobama Bama]

If you want advice in the map, some monarchs,or events or decisions,in Mesoameriacan country just call me

[gigau]

Thanks a lot ! I'll definitely give a shout when i get back to that area

In the mean time, if you have any suggestions, i'm ready to listen, of course, provided you aren't too impatient.

[Leobama Bama]

No i am not impatient, but Mesoamerica needs love but when you wantn me for help you send me a MP

[Leobama Bama]

Also look at this map http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Spanish_Empire_Anachronous_0.PNG

[gigau]

Well, Mesoamerica got more loved thanks to Solo_Adhémar than it had had before

But yes. And thanks for the link (that i authorised myself to correct, as the emoticon messed up the link).

[gigau]

As a first step in improving Mesoamerica, i'm looking for three flags, as i'm a bit giving up on what flags to put...

So if you have ideas for the folloing nations :

NAH	= "countries/Nahuas.txt"						#/*
PIP	= "countries/Pipil.txt"							#/*
QUM	= "countries/Qumarkaj.txt"						#/*

[Leobama Bama]

The pipils should have be renamed Lordship of Cuzcatlán,no codices or written accounts survive and i cant do so much in they, some names for they monarchs are: Cuachimicín,Tutecotzimit,Pilguanzimit,Atlacatl(tle last monarch) and Tonaltut,This is the best flag i could find (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Cuzcatlan.svg) and they monarchs were called "Takatéku".And a map http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._cuzcatlan.svg the provinces that are marked in green are:

1:La Libertad in the center, it produces coffe.in the time of Cuzcatlán it was called Cuzcatlán and their capital was the same name
2La Paz at the west of Cuzcatlán, it produces Tobacco and their old name was Zacatecoluca
3the west frontier was part of San Vicente and their ancient name was Apastepeque and it produces Maize
4At the east of Cuzcatlán (has acces to the sea) was the province of Sonsonate and it produces Maize
5In the north of Sonsonate is the province of Santa Ana , their ancient name was Chalchuapa and it produced coffe.
6In the south of Santa Ana is the province of Ahuachapán and it produces coffe.
7In the north of La paz is the province of Cojutepeque and it produces sugar

P.S.Tomorrow i wil give you the other important things. The provinces that have their name like was the province of Sonsonate and it have no ancient name its because its the old and new Example:Ahuachapán .

[Leobama Bama]

I dont find much information of the Qumarkaj,but this is the things that i could find.Their map http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...ngdom.png.Some monarchs names:Tz'ikin,K'otuja,Q'uq'umatz,K'iq'ab,Tepepul,W uqub' Noj ANd the last Tecún Umán.It could say with their old flag.

[m1c]

I found out that what is currently the Nahua should actually be called Chalco confederacy (from their capital name) as Nahua is a general term for all of the aztec people (from what i understand). Here's the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalco and here's a flag i made for them (i'm sure someone can do better) NAH.jpg

[gigau]

Yeah... that's what i feared and felt : because of conquistadores, it's quite tough to pre-colonization informations...

[Leobama Bama]

I noticed that the names for the advanced units for the aztecs are called:"Reformed American Hill Warrior" I suggest better name it "Jaguar warrior" and "Eagle warrior" and some parts of Mesoamerica could use it.

[Leobama Bama]

Also the other people of Mesoamerica Hated the Aztecs (and that help to the fall of the empire,because they allied with the Spanish) And a map of the Lake of Texcoco. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...519_map-es.svg

[Leobama Bama]

Also the provinces that have a bit of the other provinces could be merged to make the provinces more example: the province of Santa Ana could be merged with the part of Chalatengo could be merged with It.

[Leobama Bama]

Also why the other Kingdom of Sardania disapparead the actual kingdom is so unplayable.The kingdomwas independent of Aragón and it was Arborea. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%C3%B1a_01.svg The map is because the revolters and improve the curent map

[Leobama Bama]

Also I could suggest the split of Galicia in Four provinces:

1 Lugo their capital is called the same and produces wine as all Galicia do it.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ia_de_Lugo.svg

2 La Coruña their capital is called Santiago de Compostelait http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...oru%C3%B1a.svg
3 Pontevedra could be ignored but if you want included their capital is called Vigo http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Pontevedra.svg
4 Orense could be merged with Pontevedra but i suggest make it independent from it and their capital is the same http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._de_Orense.svg

[gigau]

I noticed that the names for the advanced units for the aztecs are called:"Reformed American Hill Warrior" I suggest better name it "Jaguar warrior" and "Eagle warrior" and some parts of Mesoamerica could use it.

Good idea, i like it.

Also the provinces that have a bit of the other provinces could be merged to make the provinces more example: the province of Santa Ana could be merged with the part of Chalatengo could be merged with It.

I'll have to take a look at that area... can't quite remember what it currently looks like (am at work ).

Also why the other Kingdom of Sardania disapparead the actual kingdom is so unplayable.The kingdomwas independent of Aragón and it was Arborea. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Cerdeña_01.svg The map is because the revolters and improve the curent map

Not sure what you mean... Arborea is in MEIOU, and displayed historically. Most of Sardinia was controlled by Aragon.

Also I could suggest the spit of Galicia in Four provinces:

[snip]

Unless a strong case is made and is successful in convincing me, there won't be new provinces in Europe... there are alreasy a lot.

[Leobama Bama]

In the beggining Arborea dont appear to me it appears as the kingdom of Sardania, and i undersatnd that thing of the map but i only suggest you could do it to the map all do you want,but also congratulations the map of Europe is so cool

[Leobama Bama]

The kingdom of Azcapotzalco should have vasallized Tenochtitlan,and it disapparead in 1428, because the "Triple Alianza"(which consisted of Tenochtitlan-Tetzcuco-Tlacopan).

[Blxz]

Your comments on unit names are good. I will be looking at the america's in the 'near' future as I didn't do those units last time. Some help will be much appreciated.

Near is a relative term, i am a little burnt out so it will happen when I get my stuff back together.

[gigau]

In the beggining Arborea dont appear to me it appears as the kingdom of Sardania,

Now i remember, it was suggested, at some point, that Arborea was a bit superfluous as it's a one province minor in a three province kingdom, and therefore we could simplify things to spare game ressources.

and i undersatnd that thing of the map but i only suggest you could do it to the map all do you want,but also congratulations the map of Europe is so cool

Thanks a lot

The kingdom of Azcapotzalco should have vasallized Tenochtitlan,and it disapparead in 1428, because the "Triple Alianza"(which consisted of Tenochtitlan-Tetzcuco-Tlacopan).

I guess there is indeed a lot to correct in the History of Mesoamerica. We will have to check how we can later model the changes of relations.

Near is a relative term, i am a little burnt out so it will happen when I get my stuff back together.

I guess i can say, in the name of everybody : take your time. As i already said, modding should remain fun.