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    How do you set your taxes?

    I almost invariably set my wealthy and middle class taxes to 0% and raise my poor taxes to the maximum (or slightly lower if I can afford it). The only exception to this is when I have a socialist government--which isn't often--when I set rich taxes to maximum, middle class ones to minimum, and poor taxes to maximum to pay for my binge construction. How about you?
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    Acutally, in every game (and all gov't types), I typically set rich taxes to a low number ... middle 5% above that, and poor another 5% above that.

    So if I have a good industrial nation, it runs about 20% (rich), 25% (middle) and 30% (poor). Right now, my US voted in a Socialist Gov't, and all 3 are at minimum taxes, and I'm also at -5% tariffs. The economy is so good, I'm able to support the army, navy and subsidize any factories too.

    I've never had taxes set to maximum. It just seems unreal and a-historical. However, in a time of war, I could see it, as it would be a matter of national survival.

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    Depends how rich my country is. I normaly keep a 10-15% flat tax rate for all classes, but increase it if my country has bad times or if the country is poor.
    If i can i put all taxes to 0%.
    Having a low tax for the Rich and a high tax for the poor might sound like a good idea for building industry, but it also has some negative consequences. More tax for the poor means less means met, wich means less assimilation, more emigration(i guess, not shure about this) and more angry pops.
    But i do keep a lower tax for the rich if i have to push my tax to 30-40%.
    As for tarrifs, I always put it to maximum(that is maximum for Free Trade, as I in most cases have a Free trade goverment in power).

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    Are those figures effective tax rates or the number that comes up before efficiency is accounted for btw?
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    I tax everyone as much as I possibly can, except for the rich who don't pay any taxes at all. No tariffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire_Unionist View Post
    Are those figures effective tax rates or the number that comes up before efficiency is accounted for btw?
    Those are the tax rate before efficiency is accounted for yes, but in my last games i had a high administrative efficiency, so the effective rate is about the same or the same.

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    Do you adjust your taxes downward as efficency goes up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lol887 View Post
    Depends how rich my country is. I normaly keep a 10-15% flat tax rate for all classes, but increase it if my country has bad times or if the country is poor.
    If i can i put all taxes to 0%.
    Having a low tax for the Rich and a high tax for the poor might sound like a good idea for building industry, but it also has some negative consequences. More tax for the poor means less means met, wich means less assimilation, more emigration(i guess, not shure about this) and more angry pops.
    But i do keep a lower tax for the rich if i have to push my tax to 30-40%.
    As for tarrifs, I always put it to maximum(that is maximum for Free Trade, as I in most cases have a Free trade goverment in power).
    You have it backwards. More tax = less emmigration.

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    I tax 100% if there is not red/yellow on the needs pie charts. Tarrifs to 100% if I am subsidizing all industry.

    With this setting I get on average: 6 pops per month leaving the country. 0.0 percenty militancy between random events which increase it. Consciousness reduction. No rebels organizing.

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    Wait... are you not supposed to run 100% tax on all pops and 100% tariffs? :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animosity View Post
    You have it backwards. More tax = less emmigration.
    How does this make sense?. You bleed your population dry they would want to stay in the country?

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    Bleed population dry = no money to leave, I'd think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lol887 View Post
    How does this make sense?. You bleed your population dry they would want to stay in the country?
    If your pops can afford luxury goods it gives a huge consciousness gain which causes them to desire change and head for the new world.

    IF you tax them high enough that they cannot buy luxury goods, but not enough that they starve to death, your properly managing your empire.

    Taxes and clergy is how you keep your population dumb ( a good thing ).

    Unless you want to pass all the reforms on the list or are America.

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    To be fair, it probably shouldn't make as much sense economically to set taxes to 100% as it actually does.....I mean you're taking ALL their income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire_Unionist View Post
    To be fair, it probably shouldn't make as much sense economically to set taxes to 100% as it actually does.....I mean you're taking ALL their income.
    Tax rate is 100% but actual tax is much lower, like 25% starting. As you research the tax techs eventually you turn the slider down.

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    Pretty much as Animosity says, the efficiency is really low in the beginning, so I go for all 100%. I lower them with time as I gain tax efficiency and often go 0% Rich if I run Laissez Faire economy, so capitalists can save up tons and build like crazy.

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    I find they have enough money even taxed. What I do is I set my stockpile to 500 machine parts, cement etc and let them buy from stockpile. They insta-invest factories.

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    I tax the poor only and run negative tariffs to help the rich. Take that socialists! If I institute universal health care, the taxes on the poor go up. If the educational system needs more money, the poor pay for it. Its a nice break from reality.

    I play as a western hemisphere country so emigration isn't a huge factor.

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    I max tax the poor at the beginning of the game and gradually reduce as tax efficiency goes up. The actual tax rate tends to go up a bit while the nominal rate is going down over the course of a game. Others generally a bit less and rich often no taxes at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animosity View Post
    If your pops can afford luxury goods it gives a huge consciousness gain which causes them to desire change and head for the new world.

    IF you tax them high enough that they cannot buy luxury goods, but not enough that they starve to death, your properly managing your empire.

    Taxes and clergy is how you keep your population dumb ( a good thing ).
    Sorry for OT, but that sounds so much like the modern Russian policies, that I shall get Vic2 ASAP (next sale).

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