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    France ate my Vassal-Artois

    Hello,

    just noticed that my Vassal Artois (northern france, channel border, 2PM) just got sneakily annexed by france. I got no notification, no war, or anything.

    Suddently everyone in Artois decided to rather be french and switched colors, without anybody even bothering to send me (or my 60k + other, more loyal vassals, Army) even a letter of goodbye.

    What happened? And how do i prevent my vassals being sneakily eaten by foreign powers?

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    Did you vassalise them while they were still at war? If so then they will continue to be in that war and may be eaten.

    What country were you? What year is it? The more details the better.

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    Same question as Jake.

    Do you have an idea on how they appeared on the map ? released during a war, through event/decision ?
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    Could it be an event similar to the Burgundian one? It would make sence for Artois to have such an event because they did get diplomatically annexed by France, as far as I know.
    It should obviously not happen if it's a subject nation, though.
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    Well, if Artois has been released as vassal through event/decision, and "swallowed" back through event, it means that it woul indeed be part of the apanage system, and therefore should be added back to France when no male ruler. Like i said for Bourgogne, it shouldn't be able to become a vassal of any other nation than France, in the first place... but that is because i haven't coded that part of the feature yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigau View Post
    Like i said for Bourgogne, it shouldn't be able to become a vassal of any other nation than France, in the first place...
    What? Why? I mean, obviously it historically was a vassal of France, and only France, in its history, but EU3 gameplay is largely ahistorical. Why would you try to add something that limits gameplay only to make it more historically accurate?
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    As i said, it would depend on how the vassal is to be released. An apangage was :

    ... was a concession of a fief by the sovereign to his younger sons, while the eldest son became king on the death of his father. [...] These lands could not be sold, neither hypothetically nor as a dowry, and returned to the royal domain on the extinction of the princely line. Daughters were excluded from the system: a now-archaic interpretation of Salic law generally prohibited daughters from inheriting land and also from acceding to the throne.
    So, it's not just a matter of a vassal of France, and only France, in its history, but of how the system worked. The apanage would have to be abolished first, and i'm thinking on how i could do it (abolish the apanage, i mean).
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    Oh, I see. Well, that does make a bit more sense.
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    I would never code something for France in the sole aim of favouring my homeland
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    Year: Early 1400s
    Country: Austria
    Vassalisation: Released them as a vassal from my own provinces, via the normal "relase a country who΄s provinces you own as a vassal"-option. No event or war involved.

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    Then there seems to indeed be a problem... didn't intended that way of course. Thanks for the precision, i'll look into it.
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