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    forming Spain fix

    hello guys,
    since in my games from handsoff Spain NEVER gets to form
    i made this fix in order to help the AI to do that

    try it
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    extract in the meiou folder and say yes to overwrite.




    CHANGES:



    first of all these 2 decision for Castille:
    1. claiming the throne of Aragon
    2. annexing Aragon

    these decision somehow simulate what happened historically:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain#F...nd_unification
    Spain being born from a marriage between the king of Castille and the Queen of Aragon

    1. claiming the throne of Aragon
    conditions for the decision to be visible:
    -having a royal marriage with Aragon
    -neither Castille nor Aragon being subject
    conditions for taking the decision:
    -having at least 100 of relations with Aragon
    -having at least 25 of prestige
    -no muslim country in the peninsula
    -being at peace
    -having 4 magistrates
    effect of the decision:
    -Aragon becomes a vassal of Castille
    -losing 4 magistrates
    -gaining +10 of prestige

    2. annexing Aragon
    conditions for the decision to be visible:
    -Aragon having been your vassal for at least 10 years (3650 days)
    conditions for taking the decision:
    -having at least 100 of relations with Aragon
    -having 4 magistrates
    -having at least 25 of prestige
    -no muslim country in the peninsula
    -being at peace
    effect of the decision:
    -Castille annexes Aragon (no BB)
    -losing 4 magistrates
    -gaining +10 of prestige



    second, i made some corrections to the mission files, which involve:
    1. Castllle friendship with Aragon
    2. Castlle royal marriage with Aragon
    3. Castille / Spain friendship with Portugal



    in addition, some correction to the criteria for the decision to form Spain,
    which now basically are:
    -owning Madrid
    -owning Barcelona
    -no muslim country in iberia




    CONSIDERATIONS:
    -with these missions, aragon and castille are often allied (so does portugal),
    likely to be in royal marriage, and therefore ultimately to be vassal-overlord.
    -i wanted to get aragon and castille in a personal union instead of aragon being vassal,
    but apparently there's no way of doing it.
    -by test, usually the AI forms Spain around 1400-1450.
    historically it happened around 1500 (although the marriage, and therefore the pre-union happened in 1469). we could add a year limitation, maybe at least 1450.
    -being allied and not fighting each other, castille and aragon manage to
    balance the overpower of france, which doesn't blob in iberia, or it does
    but just a little.
    -imho having spain almost always forming, therefore having the 3rd superpower
    of europe after france and england, makes the game more fun and balanced
    -imao the main reason why france blob so much and ruins the game of virtually any nation
    who surround her, is that instead of being busy 100 years having fun with england,
    the Hundred Years War lasts like 5 or 10 years,
    after which france is free to do whatever she likes. this is because of
    war dynamism.
    -any form of criticism or suggestion are welcome
    Last edited by sussidi; 16-03-2012 at 11:14.

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    the specifics:

    claiming the throne of Aragon
    Code:
    	claim_the_crown_of_aragon = {
    		potential = {
    			tag = CAS
    			NOT = { exists = SPA }
    			marriage_with = ARA
    			ARA = {
    			is_subject = no
    			not = { vassal_of = CAS }
    			is_lesser_in_union = no
    			}
    		}
    		allow = {
    			officials = 4	#FB
    			is_subject = no
    			war = no
    			prestige = 0.25
    			relation = { who = ARA value = 100 }
    			NOT = { iberian_peninsula = { owner = { religion_group = muslim } } }
    		}
    		effect = {
    			officials = -4	#
    			prestige = 0.10
    			vassalize = ARA
    			set_country_flag = overlord_of_ara
    		}
    		ai_will_do = {
    			factor = 1
    		}
    		ai_importance = 400
    	}
    annexing Aragon
    Code:
    	annex_aragon = {
    		potential = {
    			tag = CAS
    			NOT = { exists = SPA }
    			exists = ARA 
    			marriage_with = ARA
    			overlord_of = ARA
    			has_country_flag = overlord_of_ara
    			had_country_flag = { flag = overlord_of_ara days = 3500 }
    			#year = 1450
    		}
    		allow = {
    			officials = 4	#FB
    			is_subject = no
    			war = no
    			prestige = 0.25
    			relation = { who = ARA value = 100 }
    			NOT = { iberian_peninsula = { owner = { religion_group = muslim } } }
    		}
    		effect = {
    			officials = -4	#
    			prestige = 0.10
    			inherit = ARA
    			clr_country_flag = overlord_of_ara
    		}
    		ai_will_do = {
    			factor = 1
    		}
    		ai_importance = 400
    	}
    forming spain
    Code:
    	spanish_nation = {
    		potential = {
    			OR = { 
    				tag = CAS
    				tag = ARA 
    			}		
    			#OR = {
    				#culture_group = iberian
    				#primary_culture = basque
    			#}
    			owns = 217		# Madrid
    			owns = 213		# Barcelona
    			#check_variable = { which = "claim_on_spain" value = 25 }
    		}
    		allow = {
    			officials = 4	#FB
    			is_subject = no
    			war = no
    			NOT = { iberian_peninsula = { owner = { religion_group = muslim } } }
    			owns = 217		# Madrid
    			owns = 213		# Barcelona
    			#check_variable = { which = "claim_on_spain" value = 35 }
    			OR = {
    				AND = { tag = ARA CAS = { exists = no } }
    				AND = { tag = CAS ARA = { exists = no } }
    				AND = { ARA = { exists = no } CAS = { exists = no } }
    			}	#FB
    		}
    		effect = {
    			officials = -4	#FB
    			random_owned = {
    				limit = { culture_group = iberian }
    				base_tax = 1
    			}
    			colonists = 1
    			prestige = 0.05
    			change_tag = SPA
    			iberian_peninsula = { add_core = THIS }
    		}
    		ai_will_do = {
    			factor = 1
    		}
    		ai_importance = 400
    	}
    friendship with Aragon
    Code:
    friendship_with_Aragon = {	
    	type = country
    	allow = {
    		tag = CAS
    		NOT = { last_mission = friendship_with_Aragon }
    		NOT = { relation = { who = ARA value = 100 } }
    		is_lesser_in_union = no
    		is_subject = no
    		num_of_cities = 3
    		exists = ARA
    		ARA = {
    			#is_lesser_in_union = no
    			#is_subject = no
    			religion = THIS
    			NOT = { war_with = THIS }
    			num_of_cities = 3
    		}
    	}
    	abort = {
    		OR = {
    			is_lesser_in_union = yes
    			is_subject = yes
    			NOT = { exists = ARA }
    			POR = {
    				OR = {
    					#is_lesser_in_union = yes
    					#is_subject = yes
    					NOT = { religion = THIS }
    					war_with = THIS
    				}
    			}
    		}
    	}
    	success = {
    		relation = { who = ARA value = 180 }
    	}
    	chance = {
    		factor = 1000
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.5
    			NOT = { relation = { who = ARA value = -100 } }
    		}
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.5
    			DIP = 6
    		}
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.5
    			DIP = 8
    		}
    	}
    	effect = {
    		diplomats = 2
    		prestige = 0.05
    	}
    }
    royal marriage with Aragon
    Code:
    royal_marriage_with_Aragon = {	
    	type = country
    	allow = {
    		tag = CAS
    		NOT = { last_mission = royal_marriage_with_Aragon }
    		is_lesser_in_union = no
    		is_subject = no
    		government = monarchy
    		num_of_cities = 3
    		exists = ARA
    		ARA = {
    			is_lesser_in_union = no
    			is_subject = no
    			government = monarchy
    			religion = THIS
    			NOT = { war_with = THIS }
    			NOT = { marriage_with = THIS }
    			#NOT = { num_of_royal_marriages = 4 }
    			num_of_cities = 3
    		}
    	}
    	abort = {
    		OR = {
    			is_lesser_in_union = yes
    			is_subject = yes
    			NOT = { government = monarchy }
    			NOT = { exists = ARA }
    			MOD = {
    				OR = {
    					is_lesser_in_union = yes
    					is_subject = yes
    					NOT = { government = monarchy }
    					NOT = { religion = THIS }
    					war_with = THIS
    				}
    			}
    		}
    	}
    	success = {
    		marriage_with = ARA
    		relation = { who = ARA value = 100 }
    	}
    	chance = {
    		factor = 1000
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.4
    			NOT = { relation = { who = ARA value = 0 } }
    		}
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.4
    			NOT = { relation = { who = ARA value = -100 } }
    		}
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.4
    			DIP = 6
    		}
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.4
    			DIP = 8
    		}
    	}
    	effect = {
    		diplomats = 2
    		prestige = 0.05
    	}
    }
    friendship with Portugal
    Code:
    friendship_with_Portugal = {
    	type = country
    	allow = {
    		OR = {
    			tag = CAS
    			tag = SPA
    		}
    		NOT = { last_mission = friendship_with_Portugal }
    		NOT = { relation = { who = POR value = 100 } }
    		is_lesser_in_union = no
    		is_subject = no
    		num_of_cities = 3
    		exists = POR
    		POR = {
    			is_lesser_in_union = no
    			is_subject = no
    			religion = THIS
    			NOT = { war_with = THIS }
    			num_of_cities = 3
    		}
    	}
    	abort = {
    		OR = {
    			is_lesser_in_union = yes
    			is_subject = yes
    			NOT = { exists = POR }
    			POR = {
    				OR = {
    					is_lesser_in_union = yes
    					is_subject = yes
    					NOT = { religion = THIS }
    					war_with = THIS
    				}
    			}
    		}
    	}
    	success = {
    		relation = { who = POR value = 180 }
    	}
    	chance = {
    		factor = 1000
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.5
    			NOT = { relation = { who = POR value = -100 } }
    		}
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.5
    			DIP = 6
    		}
    		modifier = {
    			factor = 1.5
    			DIP = 8
    		}
    	}
    	effect = {
    		diplomats = 2
    		prestige = 0.05
    	}
    }

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    Way cool. I have never played as Spain myself, due to the lack of challenge, really.

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    Looks quite nice, i'll be sure to look into the files tommorrow (as i'm going to bed about now )
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    Nice fix sussidi…Thank you...I also think that we must find something to balance France cause its way overpowered...

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    Wait wait wait...
    these decision somehow simulate what happened historically:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain#F...nd_unification
    Spain being born from a marriage between the king of Castille and the Queen of Aragon
    It was actually the King of Aragon and Queen of Castille, so Aragon was actually the leading country in the PU

    As a player that loves playing as Aragon and prefers it over Castille to form Spain i just felt the need to point it out...cool fix tough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Britain View Post
    Wait wait wait...


    It was actually the King of Aragon and Queen of Castille, so Aragon was actually the leading country in the PU

    As a player that loves playing as Aragon and prefers it over Castille to form Spain i just felt the need to point it out...
    you are absolutely right, my bad.
    then, yes, perhaps it would be better having aragon leading the coexistence phase of the two countries.
    as i said, it has to be a vassalization though and not a PU for technical reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Britain View Post
    cool fix tough
    thanks

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    another reason why it might be better having aragon being the overlord, beside history,
    it's because aragon has vassals (sicily and many times other minors) which may be not spain's domains, because when you annex a vassal who has vassals, these will not become your vassals.
    i hope that was understandable

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    i love the idea behind that, but i think thats a little overpowered. as long as the AI only does it, well, but as a decision?
    maybe you could add a rondom list or something?
    like that:

    effect = {
    random_list = {
    40 = { officials = -4 #
    prestige = 0.10
    inherit = ARA
    clr_country_flag = overlord_of_ara }

    60 = { prestige = -0.1 }

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    Well... castille was the leading partner... Indeed, many aragonese nobles felt discriminated
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    Quote Originally Posted by grayfox92 View Post
    i love the idea behind that, but i think thats a little overpowered. as long as the AI only does it, well, but as a decision?
    maybe you could add a rondom list or something?
    like that:

    effect = {
    random_list = {
    40 = { officials = -4 #
    prestige = 0.10
    inherit = ARA
    clr_country_flag = overlord_of_ara }

    60 = { prestige = -0.1 }
    i agree that it's a bit of a gift for the human player pushing a button and having aragon be your vassal.
    maybe we could have 2 versions of the decision:
    one "ai = yes" and one "ai = no", more diffcult and with more requirements
    Last edited by sussidi; 18-03-2012 at 11:16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirro View Post
    Well... castille was the leading partner... Indeed, many aragonese nobles felt discriminated
    not that i don't believe you, just for the sake of the discussion, can you post any articles that say that?
    i'm asking just because i wasn't able to find this information myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by sussidi View Post
    not that i don't believe you, just for the sake of the discussion, can you post any articles that say that?
    i'm asking just because i wasn't able to find this information myself
    Well, for example there were revolts against castille in Valencia (XVI century) and in catalunya (XVII and XVIII centuries) because they didn't want to be controlled from Madrid.
    Toledo was the de facto imperial capital, never an aragonese city
    Aragoneses weren't allowed to go to the Americas until the XVIII century
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    Overall, i like the idea, except that i think that the decisions should be requests to Aragon, firing an event by which it could accept or refuse. Although, possibly, one of the two, struggling with a pretender revolt, could ask for help to the other in exchange of a union.
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    I would like to see an option to form Spain without Aragon, but with Portugal, I think it is a pretty plausible option.
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    Agreed... that's the way the nation formation decision currently work. But possibly the Aragon way should (in AI conditions) slightly more likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pirro View Post
    Well, for example there were revolts against castille in Valencia (XVI century) and in catalunya (XVII and XVIII centuries) because they didn't want to be controlled from Madrid.
    Toledo was the de facto imperial capital, never an aragonese city
    Aragoneses weren't allowed to go to the Americas until the XVIII century
    Aragon was the leading partner, however Castille managed to become dominant when both unified...
    So an alternative history where Aragon is dominant is plausible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Britain View Post
    Aragon was the leading partner, however Castille managed to become dominant when both unified...
    So an alternative history where Aragon is dominant is plausible
    No, Isabel was the leading partner of the union... indeed, when she died, Fernando the second wasn't the king
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    Quote Originally Posted by pirro View Post
    No, Isabel was the leading partner of the union... indeed, when she died, Fernando the second wasn't the king
    In theory the male would always lead the Personal Union, and from wikipedia...

    Ferdinand the Catholic [1] (Spanish: Fernando II de Aragσn) (10 March 1452 – 23 January 1516) was King of Aragon (1479–1516, as Ferdinand II), Sicily (1468–1516), Naples (1504–1516), Valencia, Sardinia, and Navarre, Count of Barcelona, jure uxoris King of Castile (1474–1504, as Ferdinand V, in right of his wife, Isabella I) and then regent of that country also from 1508 to his death, in the name of his mentally unstable daughter Joanna, who was later Queen of Castile.

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    Actually, in the case of Isabel and Fernando, i think it was a dual monarchy with each of them ruling in full autonomy each in their kingdom. So basically, there was no senior/junior partner in this particular union.
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