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    Armour model "name balance" and some blank patch

    http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...6#post13335446
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    MODEL_GER_5_0;PzKpfw.IB Bde.;PzKpfw.IB Bde.;PzKpfw.IB Bde.;PzKpfw.IB Bde.;PzKpfw.IB Bde.;PzKpfw.IB Bde.;;;;;X  
    MODEL_GER_5_1;PzKpfw.IIA & PzKpfw.IB;PzKpfw.IIA & PzKpfw.IB;PzKpfw.IIA & PzKpfw.IB;PzKpfw.IIA & PzKpfw.IB;PzKpfw.IIA & PzKpfw.IB;PzKpfw.IIA & PzKpfw.IB;;;;;X
    MODEL_GER_5_2;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF & PzKpfw.IVD;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF & PzKpfw.IVD;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF & PzKpfw.IVD;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF & PzKpfw.IVD;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF & PzKpfw.IVD;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF & PzKpfw.IVD;;;;;X    # IIID is pre-prodution model and IVC is too weak for same era armour.
    MODEL_GER_5_3;PzKpfw.IIIH & PzKpfw.IIIJ & PzKpfw.IVF1;PzKpfw.IIIH & PzKpfw.IIIJ & PzKpfw.IVF1;PzKpfw.IIIH & PzKpfw.IIIJ & PzKpfw.IVF1;PzKpfw.IIIH & PzKpfw.IIIJ & PzKpfw.IVF1;PzKpfw.IIIH & PzKpfw.IIIJ & PzKpfw.IVF1;PzKpfw.IIIH & PzKpfw.IIIJ & PzKpfw.IVF1;;;;;X       # IIIH and IVF1 are outclass without IIIJ and Kwk39
    MODEL_GER_5_4;PzKpfw.IVG & PzKpfw.IIIL & PzKpfw.IIIN;PzKpfw.IVG & PzKpfw.IIIL & PzKpfw.IIIN;PzKpfw.IVG & PzKpfw.IIIL & PzKpfw.IIIN;PzKpfw.IVG & PzKpfw.IIIL & PzKpfw.IIIN;PzKpfw.IVG & PzKpfw.IIIL & PzKpfw.IIIN;PzKpfw.IVG & PzKpfw.IIIL & PzKpfw.IIIN;;;;;X  # IIILs are uparmoured and same era with IVG
    MODEL_GER_5_5;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVH;;;;;X
    MODEL_GER_5_6;PzKpfw. E-50;PzKpfw. E-50;PzKpfw. E-50;PzKpfw. E-50;PzKpfw. E-50;PzKpfw. E-50;;;;;X  # VFs and IVJs are outclass in MBT era
    MODEL_GER_5_7;PzKpfw. E-50II;PzKpfw. E-50II;PzKpfw. E-50II;PzKpfw. E-50II;PzKpfw. E-50II;PzKpfw. E-50II;;;;;X  # improved E-50
    
    BRIG_MODEL_GER_9_0;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF;PzKpfw.IIIE & PzKpfw.IIIF;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_GER_9_1;PzKpfw.IIIJ;PzKpfw.IIIJ;PzKpfw.IIIJ;PzKpfw.IIIJ;PzKpfw.IIIJ;PzKpfw.IIIJ;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_GER_9_2;PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.IVG;;;;;X   # VAs are too powerful and too early for mid-1942~1943 era.
    BRIG_MODEL_GER_9_3;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;;;;;X    # VFs are only prototypes and nealy same armour, main gun with VA, VG.
    BRIG_MODEL_GER_9_4;PzKpfw.E-50;PzKpfw.E-50;PzKpfw.E-50;PzKpfw.E-50;PzKpfw.E-50;PzKpfw.E-50;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_GER_9_5;PzKpfw.E-50II;PzKpfw.E-50II;PzKpfw.E-50II;PzKpfw.E-50II;PzKpfw.E-50II;PzKpfw.E-50II;;;;;X
    
    
    MODEL_ENG_5_0;Vickers Mk.VI Bde.;Vickers Mk.VI Bde.;Vickers Mk.VI Bde.;Vickers Mk.VI Bde.;Vickers Mk.VI Bde.;Vickers Mk.VI Bde.;;;;;X
    MODEL_ENG_5_1;Vickers Mk.VIB;Vickers Mk.VIB;Vickers Mk.VIB;Vickers Mk.VIB;Vickers Mk.VIB;Vickers Mk.VIB;;;;;X
    MODEL_ENG_5_2;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;;;;;X
    MODEL_ENG_5_3;Crusader;Crusader;Crusader;Crusader;Crusader;Crusader;;;;;X
    MODEL_ENG_5_4;Challenger & Cromwell;Challenger & Cromwell;Challenger & Cromwell;Challenger & Cromwell;Challenger & Cromwell;Challenger & Cromwell;;;;;X  # Comets are too powerful in 1943 era.
    MODEL_ENG_5_5;Comet I;Comet I;Comet I;Comet I;Comet I;Comet I;;;;;X # Only few prototypes of Centurion MK.I in 1945
    MODEL_ENG_5_6;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;;;;;X
    MODEL_ENG_5_7;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;;;;;X
    
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_9_0;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;Cruiser Mk.III;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_9_1;Crusader III;Crusader III;Crusader III;Crusader III;Crusader III;Crusader III;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_9_2;Challenger;Challenger;Challenger;Challenger;Challenger;Challenger;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_9_3;Comet I;Comet I;Comet I;Comet I;Comet I;Comet I;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_9_4;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;Centurion Mk.II;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_9_5;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;Centurion Mk.III;;;;;X
    
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_7_0;Vickers Mk.II;Vickers Mk.II;Vickers Mk.II;Vickers Mk.II;Vickers Mk.II;Vickers Mk.II;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_7_1;Vickers Mk.VIb;Vickers Mk.VIb;Vickers Mk.VIb;Vickers Mk.VIb;Vickers Mk.VIb;Vickers Mk.VIb;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_7_2;Tetrarch;Tetrarch;Tetrarch;Tetrarch;Tetrarch;Tetrarch;;;;;X   #Patch blank
    BRIG_MODEL_ENG_7_3;Harry Hopkins;Harry Hopkins;Harry Hopkins;Harry Hopkins;Harry Hopkins;Harry Hopkins;;;;;X   #nick name
    
    MODEL_SOV_4_0;T-26 obr.1933 Bde.;T-26 obr.1933 Bde.;T-26 obr.1933 Bde.;T-26 obr.1933 Bde.;T-26 obr.1933 Bde.;T-26 obr.1933 Bde.;;;;;X
    MODEL_SOV_4_1;T-26 obr.1933;T-26 obr.1933;T-26 obr.1933;T-26 obr.1933;T-26 obr.1933;T-26 obr.1933;;;;;X
    MODEL_SOV_4_2;BT-7M;BT-7M;BT-7M;BT-7M;BT-7M;BT-7M;;;;;X   #1939 prodution model
    MODEL_SOV_4_3;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;;;;;X  # 1941 prodution models
    MODEL_SOV_4_4;T-34/85 obr.1943 & T-34/76 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943 & T-34/76 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943 & T-34/76 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943 & T-34/76 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943 & T-34/76 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943 & T-34/76 obr.1943;;;;;X   # T-34/76 obr.1943 are still in use  
    MODEL_SOV_4_5;T-44/85 & T-34/85 obr. 1944;T-44/85 & T-34/85 obr. 1944;T-44/85 & T-34/85 obr. 1944;T-44/85 & T-34/85 obr. 1944;T-44/85 & T-34/85 obr. 1944;T-44/85 & T-34/85 obr. 1944;;;;;X  #T-34/85 obr.1944 are still in use
    MODEL_SOV_4_6;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;;;;;X
    MODEL_SOV_4_7;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;;;;;X
    
    BRIG_MODEL_SOV_9_0;BT-7M;BT-7M;BT-7M;BT-7M;BT-7M;BT-7M;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_SOV_9_1;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;T-34/76 obr.1940 & T-34/76 obr.1941;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_SOV_9_2;T-34/85 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943;T-34/85 obr.1943;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_SOV_9_3;T-44/85;T-44/85;T-44/85;T-44/85;T-44/85;T-44/85;;;;;X # Only T-44/85s are in mass prodution
    BRIG_MODEL_SOV_9_4;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;T-54 obr.1947;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_SOV_9_5;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;T-54 obr.1949;;;;;X
    
    MODEL_USA_5_0;Light M2A4 Bde.;Light M2A4 Bde.;Light M2A4 Bde.;Light M2A4 Bde.;Light M2A4 Bde.;Light M2A4 Bde.;;;;;X
    MODEL_USA_5_1;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;;;;;X
    MODEL_USA_5_2;Medium M2A1;Medium M2A1;Medium M2A1;Medium M2A1;Medium M2A1;Medium M2A1;;;;;X
    MODEL_USA_5_3;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;;;;;X # Early sherman models
    MODEL_USA_5_4;M4A1(76)W & M4A3(75)W;M4A1(76)W & M4A3(75)W;M4A1(76)W & M4A3(75)W;M4A1(76)W & M4A3(75)W;M4A1(76)W & M4A3(75)W;M4A1(76)W & M4A3(75)W;;;;;X  #  M4A3E2 with 76mm gun are too powerful in 1943 era
    MODEL_USA_5_5;M4A3E2(76) Sherman & M4A3E8 Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman & M4A3E8 Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman & M4A3E8 Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman & M4A3E8 Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman & M4A3E8 Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman & M4A3E8 Sherman;;;;;X  # M4A3E2 with 76mm gun and last sherman model 
    MODEL_USA_5_6;M46;M46;M46;M46;M46;M46;;;;;X
    MODEL_USA_5_7;M47;M47;M47;M47;M47;M47;;;;;X
    
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_9_0;M2A1;M2A1;M2A1;M2A1;M2A1;M2A1;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_9_1;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;M4A1 Sherman & M4A2 Sherman;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_9_2;M4A1(76)W Sherman;M4A1(76)W Sherman;M4A1(76)W Sherman;M4A1(76)W Sherman;M4A1(76)W Sherman;M4A1(76)W Sherman;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_9_3;M4A3E2(76) Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman;M4A3E2(76) Sherman;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_9_4;M46;M46;M46;M46;M46;M46;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_9_5;M47;M47;M47;M47;M47;M47;;;;;X
    
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_7_0;Light M2A1;Light M2A1;Light M2A1;Light M2A1;Light M2A1;Light M2A1;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_7_1;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;Light M2A4;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_7_2;M3 Stuart;M3 Stuart;M3 Stuart;M3 Stuart;M3 Stuart;M3 Stuart;;;;;X
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_7_3;M5 Stuart;M5 Stuart;M5 Stuart;M5 Stuart;M5 Stuart;M5 Stuart;;;;;X #patch blank
    BRIG_MODEL_USA_7_4;M24 Chaffee;M24 Chaffee;M24 Chaffee;M24 Chaffee;M24 Chaffee;M24 Chaffee;;;;;X
    Now most pictures are colored in attachment.
    If anyone has doubt, I will explain more reason for it.




    Updated for german CAG pictures in attachment
    11-03-2012
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    Last edited by pionierecat; 15-03-2012 at 15:02.

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    Updated and fixed german CAG and E-50 color pictures in attachment.
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    Last edited by pionierecat; 15-03-2012 at 15:03.

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    The Cromwell tank is missed out from the brigades. I've made these 'personal modifications' myself, though (as well as swapping around the British INT and FTR, which are mixed up in HoI2 and every game since does it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenissima View Post
    The Cromwell tank is missed out from the brigades. I've made these 'personal modifications' myself, though (as well as swapping around the British INT and FTR, which are mixed up in HoI2 and every game since does it).
    I've thought about Challenger and Cromwell for medium tank '43 brigades. Challenger is upgunned based on Cromwell but its more difficulty to product than Sherman with 17pdr.
    Sherman is not british weapon so I dont add Firefly in the list.

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    Challengers (of that era) were hardly built, however. The Firefly was an exclusively British-produced version, so I could argue for including it (especially as a change from the Cromwell) - but I'd mostly just argue against the Challenger. Only 200 were ever built and they saw little combat.
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    Firefly was much later production and design than Cromwell at about one year more later. What era is much fit to Firefly? There is no 1944 armour division tech for it...

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    Hi, as a reaction from the developers:

    Dec 15200 (who cannot post here at the moment, but can read the forums) has looked this over and taken some of the changes into his work for 0.60.

    So thank you for your suggestions and your interest.

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    Thanks. This is the best encouragement to me.
    Now I update P1102, Ju-390A-1, Panther G and E-50 II brigade(better view) color pictures, and some change to '43~'45 german armour.


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    MODEL_GER_5_4;PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.IVH;PzKpfw.IVH;;;;;X  
    # the only main type of medium tank produced in 1943~1944. 
    IIIN was designed to support Tiger I not widely used for medium tank division and IIIN was obsolete in later 1943 after Kursk.
    MODEL_GER_5_5;PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVJ;PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVJ;PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVJ;PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVJ;PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVJ;PzKpfw.VG & PzKpfw.IVJ;;;;;X
    
    BRIG_MODEL_GER_9_2;PzKpfw.VD & PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.VD & PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.VD & PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.VD & PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.VD & PzKpfw.IVG;PzKpfw.VD & PzKpfw.IVG;;;;;X   
    # VD and IVG are short-gap of medium tank in late 1942~ early 1943 and obsolet in late 1943 since '44 medium tank brigade coming out.
    BRIG_MODEL_GER_9_3;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;PzKpfw.VA & PzKpfw.VG;;;;;X   #
    See my attachment for full codes and pictures
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