Apparently you can revoke holdings that you have a personal claim on from a vassal without a negative relationship modifier with the rest of your vassals. I'm fabricating on my super dukes right now.
Yeah the only downside is the cost when you get the option to fabricate, so keep some gold in reserve.
I also think the income model is silly.
I get punished for improving my economy, really?
I wish Paradox would do away with the income cost model. What is expensive at the beginning of the game is way over priced by mid game. I just spent 400 for a claim. I'd much rather be charged for tasks you have your council is performing as an expensive. It seems more realistic to me
That can be a bitch when the duchy I just got a claim on only controls one county though
When you get a claim that seems incredibly expensive though, it is probably because you're chancellor managed to get a claim on the whole duchy, rather than just a single county.
I don't think you are ever punished for it. The varying costs will be worked out based on your current income. So while you may not get a benefit from developing, there won't be an actual downside.
Besides, it's illogical.
Not really. Your chancellor has to bribe people, has to fake documents, etc. So when you're rich, he decides that he can spend more money on this. At the end, you want to fabricate a claim, and the persons your chancellor has to bribe will be wanting more money when you're rich. They want their share. So it's absolutely fine.
Stop for a second and think of the real world.
A service or goods does not cost more money because you're rich. Prices are fixed. Even when we're talking about bartering, a rise as seen in this game is frankly stupid. Who'd try to get rich if stuff just gets more expensive?
In the real world, a highly customized service (which "help me provide 'evidence' that my lord owns this piece of land" surely is) costs what the person providing the service thinks they can get away with charging.A service or goods does not cost more money because you're rich. Prices are fixed.
Is true, but in the game as you are getting richer, so are the provinces you are trying to acquire. I've assumed it was based on your income, but that is just a guess given it is a common Pdox technique. For all I know it might be based on the value of the province in question, which would certainly make sense. Even if it is income, it probably gives a better approximation of the rising value of the provinces you are trying to acquire than a flat cost from 1066 to 1453...
I fabricated claims on Venice and Genoa 100 years ago, and theyre both more prosperous and more developed, yet the claims were muc hcheaper.