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    Andalucia and Cadiz I understand , but Badajoz? it's not that great of a province ...
    and I think He went after north Africa first to prevent it turning yellow pretty quickly , you can reclaim french cores until 1475.

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    I'm wondering about Badajoz too. I was expecting to see coastal Iberia taken over with the rest saved for imperialism, but Badajoz is just three fewer muslim provinces taken over with holy war.

    Edit: It looks on the map like Andalucia gave a border to Morocco in Alentejo. If not, making a border with Morocco definitely would have made taking Badajoz worth it.
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    I guess that the explanation for Badajoz is that it gave a border with Morocco, leading to a Holy War CB.

    Successful beginning all things considered.
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    Good job at getting into N. Africa, now you can simply blitz across unopposed by the western powers

    To bad that France seems so intent on seizing Aquitaine...

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    Hooray, another Prawnstar AAR. As always, I will be following this

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    You may as well start dealing with France if they are going to be so insistent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franconian View Post
    Hooray, another Prawnstar AAR. As always, I will be following this
    Ditto

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    Hooray!A Prawnstar AAR I can follow from the beginning!
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    Missed your first AAR so will definetly follow this one. I'm sorry to say i don't think this is possible but you almost conquered the world as the iroqouis so it qould very well be for you.

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    Thandros, Franconian, Dr. Gonzo, AwesomeSauce123, Taylor - Welcome on board.

    Arakhor - Playing England you know France are coming after you until you smash them hard so no great excitement it's all about finding the opportunity...

    tamius23 - I've lost track of Aragon's activities, they're involved in near unending warfare for the 40+ years I've played to no great effect other that losing Rousillion to the French.

    blsteen - I was concerned when the DOW came in but...

    JKNUBZ - I went after Castile early because I could, the cores in France are still there and will be reclaimed soon. The important bit in the first few decades is to secure control of Western Europe. Two reasons, first so that there's no one on your doorstep who can cause problems when your army is halfway across Asia and secondly so that no one goes exploring and through colonies creates BB.

    sprites - North Africa yes to stop another Christian getting it - if I don't someone else will. Badajoz simply because it was the only other Castilian province I'd occupied connected to my new south Spain holdings - Algiers had seized the other two coastal provinces. I needed some BB to burn remember I need enough to get to the next peace deal without running down to zero. Of course anything that hurts Castile is also beneficial.

    mathl33t & Malurous - See my answer to sprites, Badajoz isn't special in its own right.

    Cresilia - That's the idea, take too long and you get Christian enclaves.

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    Chapter Three


    That was the 7th of August, two days later Burgundy DOWs France! Burgundy has the same sized army as France although that excludes the French vassals. Later that month…



    Castile declaring war isn’t too bad while France is distracted by Burgundy. I may take a 4BB hit here if it gets me another Castilian coastal province - stopping colonisation dead is vital for long term success. It does make peace with Algiers more of a priority - I need the army back from North Africa.

    Peace with Algiers - January 1418



    BB is 10.26 / 25.00 falling at 1.10 a year. With a new border I now have the Holy War CB against Tunisia so they promptly send a warning, which may prove unnecessary.

    Having waited several months for the cascading alliances to work through the war situation is very interesting. The Burgundian attack on France has really affected the position. While Burgundy vs. France is a full alliance conflict my wars are:

    England, Aragon and Portugal vs. France and Epirus

    England, Aragon and Portugal vs. Castile

    I doubt I’ll get a better opportunity any time soon…

    Peace with Castile - May 1418



    This isn’t BB efficient at all but it does help stopping Castile. Also a nice picture of the English holding in southern Spain. Time to concentrate on France - I’d like to extract a couple of my cores. By the end of the year a beleaguered France is offering White Peace - lets face it that will never do will it. August 1419 and Aragon peaces out, France annexes Provence but otherwise things look pretty good.



    September 1420 - Mission switch.



    This is the jackpot! Occupying Paris gives cores on most of northern France. Of course right now Paris is under Burgundian siege so I might have a wait but I’ve lots of BB to run down. I’ve +44 war score and France has no army and no navy. Over the next couple of years Portugal leaves the war, Orleans joins and Brittany peaces out from the Burgundian alliance. This allows me to seize a few more provinces but until Burgundy makes peace I can’t occupy Paris for all those cores.

    French peace with Burgundy - February 1423



    Now it gets interesting…

    Mid June and Aragon calls me to war against French vassal Foix. I honour the call but as I’m already at war with France I don’t actually get to join in.

    A new King - March 1424



    Not much of a king but diplo 6 is better than the last two. Then again the heir is diplo 8 so I’ll make the new guy a general in the hope of getting rid of him quickly. He does inherit a great war position.

    A month later I get my first boundary dispute - a core on Ayrshire brings war with Scotland a lot closer.

    Paris falls - October 1424



    I DOW cored French vassal OPM Alencon, might as well pick up a core while it’s easy.

    December 1424



    Oh.



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    Burgundy attacking may well be a great opportunity to grab land off of them if you can spare the Infamy against them. Otherwise It's maybe a good time to smash them hard and you know raise war exhaustion and cripple them for a while perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrawnStar View Post
    Oh.
    At least your troops are in the right place...

    You had some good luck with the mission there, have fun eating all of France BB-free now!

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    The Burgundians know what's good for them. The truce that will result from this war will prevent you from retaking your cores on Burgundy for 5 long years...
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    France got the perfect storm there. I take Burgundy is one of the lucky tags? Time to make the Burgundian AI aware of who the human player is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrawnStar View Post
    Some thoughts on strategy. I need a secure base and I need to prevent European exploration before I can go crazy on the non-Christian world. Both these aims can be achieved by uniting the Isles and destroying Aragon/Burgundy/Castile/France/Portugal/Scotland. Ideally this can all be done before 1500 so I've plenty of time to push East with the Holy War CB before the Hordes implode - the Pacific is the goal for the Holy War phase so my armies will be very spread out and unable to deal with a major threat to the Homeland.
    Actually I think your priority should be saving / cutting off the Golden Horde before heading east and 1500 may already be pushing it. Every province that you can colonize for 0 BB instead of having to take off Lithuania, Poland or whichever Russian minor it is that comes out on top is very beneficial to your goal and might make the difference between success or failure of this attempt.
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    seems like the Burgundian AI is playing a bit of a blinder, a well timed jackle bite at France and now you. But you seem to have pretty much ended Castille as a meaningful power already?

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    That Castille boundaries are really bothering me xD

    Horrible Boundaries like that are a pet peeve of mine. :P

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    Hey Burgundy is asking to be sliced!
    And you just gained a load of ores on them , too!

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