I saw the AI give castles to the Knights Templar and Knights of St. John. I thought I'd give it a try, but I haven't noticed any difference. They still cost the same piety, and still unavailable to hire as usual.
I saw the AI give castles to the Knights Templar and Knights of St. John. I thought I'd give it a try, but I haven't noticed any difference. They still cost the same piety, and still unavailable to hire as usual.
You get piety for giving titles out to holy orders. Also, giving holy orders land helps to serve as a powerful buffer against heathens, like the mongols, for example.
Well, I mainly do it for Role-Play reason, like when playing as Jerusalem, and getting attacked by 3-4 Muslims, Without the Knight Hospitaler, I'd be lost. So, after the war, I gave them a castle as thanks for their great deeds. The Meister of the Hospitaler loves me by now. If it has any use, I don't know, though I really hope it does. Something like they only (or mainly) fight for me or something like that.
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Well, I think a castle gets built for free. If you ever conquer it, that has to be worth soemthing.
How exactly do they help? They don't fight for themselves, do they? In the end, I raise them like usually, if they have land or not, with the same amount of troops.Originally Posted by Sylon
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I was wondering the same; if you give them territory, does this mean they are always available to you (and without a piety penalty)? What about other realms wanting their services?
I've yet to experiment too much with holy orders at the moment, but I would think that giving, say, the Teutonic Knights some land in Russia would at least slow down the mongols a bit. I believe such a tactic was employed in one of the beta AARs... Though they seemed to have merely gotten steamrolled by Mongol doomstacks there.
Nope. You pay the same as always. It's not really worth it, to be honest, unless you intend to use them as sacrificial pawns against mongol invasion.I was wondering the same; if you give them territory, does this mean they are always available to you (and without a piety penalty)? What about other realms wanting their services?
I know at least one player has said that they were able to offer one of the orders vassalization, and then revoked the master's title after a rebellion, thereby becoming Grandmaster himself.
ive done it lots, they have baronies all over the realm, cos its cool. But i cant see any noticeable effect. I guess theyre getting tax income instead of me, but their army you can hire is still the same size as it always was so maybe its just a vanity or short-term piety gain thing
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How do you actually do it? I didn't know you can give castles to holy orders.
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Can you vassalise monastic orders?
You can give titles to orders and the Pope as you would with vassals only they remain independant after getting them and you get some piety
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I would like to know how do so myself as I couldn't find any option to give the holy order I hired the lands I recently conquered.
You should dismiss them first then give them the land.
Click on the portrait of the Grandmaster of the order (either by selecting his army first or if he isn't hired then through the hiring window), and then give the title as you would normally.
Edit: no need to dismiss them first.
For that matter, you don't actually need to hire them to give them land. Saves piety this way.
Can anyone mod it that if a player gives land or titles to Holy orders that he will get discount or free troops for doing so?
Fun fact: Hungary often grants them russian provinces. The HRE some of the prussian provinces. After 10 years the ruler thinks "What the hell did I do there?" And fights them to get their territory back.
Do never give them anything. Someone will fight them and take it back. To get them strong enough, so they stand a chance, you need to conquer the Kingdom of Poland give them all lands. Maybe then they can do a bit. But on the other hand: Why shouldnt you just keep it for yourself? You can use it far better then those.
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