Still confused about this voting for succession in an elective system.. anyone got a clue whether this is WAD or something fishy going on?
Let me give you an example:
Year is 2258, name of the place is Babyl.. oh, wait. No, it's 1106 and Sweden. And the game is vanilla (not modded)
Main characters:
* King Sven I af Sverker - King of Sweden, Duke of Östergötaland (holding all three respective counties within), Count of Västergötaland and (via his wife, countess of) Värmland.
* Count Kol af Sverker (Sven I's eldest son) - Count of Öland (and husband to the duchess of Uppland and Norrland).
* Duke Dan af Stenkyrka (grandson of King Sven, via daughter. Nephew to Count Kol. Unmarried and underaged with father deceased and mother still alive) - Duke of Bergslagen (holding two out of three counties there - the third is Värmland held by his grandmother/father), Count of Gotland.
* Duke Sigurd af Alsnö (unrelated to af Sverkers and af Stenkyrka's. Unmarried and underaged with both parents deceased) - Duke of Småland, Count of Småland, Hedmark, and Finnmark.
Kingdom of Sweden (Sven I) pretty much follows the borders of its "de jure" region (with small bits of Norway included). Succession law is Agnatic-Cognatic Elective
County of Öland (Kol) is "de jure" part of duchy of Småland, but currently it is not part of any duchy (when looking at the county screen there is no duchy CoA in the county capital, just county CoA and kingdom CoA). Succession law is Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture
Duchy of Bergslagen (Dan) consists of its "de jure" region plus Gotland added to it. Succession law is Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture
County of Gotland (Dan) is (as said above) currently part of duchy of Bergslagen, but "de jure" it is part of duchy of Småland. For succession law see above.
Duchy of Småland (Sigurd) would "de jure" cover counties of Småland, Öland, and Gotland, but currently the counties listed under it are Småland, Hedmark, and Finnmark (the latter two of which are "de jure" members of duchy of Trondelag, Norway!). Succession law is Agnatic-Cognatic Elective.
Because Duchy of Småland is "elective", the involved counts can vote for the heir for the duchy (i.e. who gets the duchy if Sigurd dies)
I took the saved game and went through all three key persons who might have a vote for Duchy of Småland (i.e. loaded the game as if I were playing them)
- Sigurd, being the duke of Småland, and the count of Småland ("de jure" and current part of duchy of Småland) as well as count of Finnmark and Hedmark (currently listed as being part of Duchy of Småland)
- Dan, being count of Gotland ("de jure" part of duchy of Småland, although currently part of duchy of Bergslagen)
- Kol, being count of Öland ("de jure" part of duchy of Småland, although currently not part of any duchy)
When looking at the law screen for duchy of Småland (as Sigurd), I could see that all three persons (Sigurd, Dan, Kol) had cast their votes. Sigurd and Dan for Dan, Kol for himself. So Dan was the heir, and Kol the pretender.
HOWEVER... when I tried to vote for the heir of Småland (which, remember, is elective)
- As Sigurd I could vote (the "nominate" button is right there in the law screen)
- As Dan I could NOT vote (the law screen had only Bergslagen and Sweden CoA's on it, with no "nominate" button for Bergslagen (primogeniture) but the button was there for Sweden (elective))
- As Kol I could NOT vote (the law screen had only Öland and Sweden CoA's on it, with no "nominate" button for either (primogeniture for Öland, counts can't vote for the king)).
I'm really baffled
1) According to the game (heir-pretender window for Småland) the guys have been voting for succession for duchy of Småland
2) Seems that voting follows "de jure" region as the votes on the Heir-Pretender window were from counts of Småland (Sigurd), Gotland (Dan) and Öland (Kol)
3) Duchy of Småland is "elective" and I've seen the voting announcements pop up in the info window... so voting IS DEFINITELY going on..
...yet if I choose to play Kol, or Dan, I cannot cast any votes for the heir to Duchy of Småland. And I could not do that when I had Öland as King (then Duke) Sven either...
...but I can still vote for the king as Dan, so voting system is working at least for the Kingdom level.
Anyone got any ideas?
EDIT: It just occurred to me.. one possible reason could be that the game mechanic does not allow Player-Counts to vote at all, unless they vote for a duchy they already have. Otherwise Players can vote as Dukes for the king (and, assumedly, kings for the Emperor). Which means only NPC-counts cand vote for the duchy which they don't currently "own". Can anyone confirm that they have cast a vote for a duchy as a vassal (count)?