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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre17 View Post
    The repositioning of troops is a completely internal affair. It was not intended to threaten the United States.
    This is strange reasoning. If France or Germany positioned a large bulk of troops near the border with the other while that other was fighting a war, it is safe to assume it would not be a strictly internal affair.
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    The Kingdom of Spain would like to point out the hypocrisy in these statements of the US government, which has 80.000 US troops stationed within weeks's distance of the Confederate shores. Is there any second intention as to such a large deployment, with regards to the territorial integrity of the Confederate States of America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reis91 View Post
    The Kingdom of Spain would like to point out the hypocrisy in these statements of the US government, which has 80.000 US troops stationed within weeks's distance of the Confederate shores. Is there any second intention as to such a large deployment, with regards to the territorial integrity of the Confederate States of America?
    Again we in the USA are unclear in the Spanish are insane or merely have an interesting sense of humour! I am sure the garrison of Madrid could reach Portugal or France in short order if travelling by rail. There is of course a difference to the presence of troops anywhere within a nation, and a significant build up directly on the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacob-Lundgren View Post
    This is strange reasoning. If France or Germany positioned a large bulk of troops near the border with the other while that other was fighting a war, it is safe to assume it would not be a strictly internal affair.
    The majority of our forces are part of the Army of Northern Virginia. The ANV was conducting military exercises. This was happening in Maryland because many of the battles in the recent war of Northern Agression were fought there and therefore the soldiers can work out what they should have done in those battles. As to the comparison with Europe, Germany or France would have every right to station their troops right on the border if they wished to do so.


    To the US: I think that Spain ws referring to the large number of troops, over half the US military being close to us. The garrison of Madrid may be close to France and Portugal but it does not consist of half the Spainsh military. We also think geographical differences should be taken into account. North America is bigger then Europe.
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    All this bickering about Cuba seems quite pointless to me. I generally remain quiet on such far off affairs, but it seems to me, along with many in Austria, that this strange obsession with grabbing far off parts of the world is expensive, violent, and rather silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre17 View Post
    To the US: I think that Spain ws referring to the large number of troops, over half the US military being close to us. The garrison of Madrid may be close to France and Portugal but it does not consist of half the Spainsh military. We also think geographical differences should be taken into account. North America is bigger then Europe.
    Indeed. Yet as Madrid is the roughly in the centre of Spain, by the Spanish line of thought Spanish troops on their mainland are therefore 'close' to the French and Portuguese border.

    Regardless, this discussion is ridiculous, and such a line will not be continued by the American government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskeato View Post
    Indeed. Yet as Madrid is the roughly in the centre of Spain, by the Spanish line of thought Spanish troops on their mainland are therefore 'close' to the French and Portuguese border.

    Regardless, this discussion is ridiculous, and such a line will not be continued by the American government.
    They are not concentrated nor mobilized in their entirety for armed actions, unlike the US forces in Cuba.

    We deeply regret that the United States of America did not accept our offer for a truce, and I pity their people for having allowed such tyrants, who are defying the will of the American people, who clearly wishes this war to be ended now, to continue to send American lads to their deaths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reis91 View Post
    They are not concentrated nor mobilized in their entirety for armed actions, unlike the US forces in Cuba.

    We deeply regret that the United States of America did not accept our offer for a truce, and I pity their people for having allowed such tyrants, who are defying the will of the American people, who clearly wishes this war to be ended now, to continue to send American lads to their deaths.
    We are even more regretful, on behalf of the Spanish government, that they felt they could not accept our terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskeato View Post
    We are even more regretful, on behalf of the Spanish government, that they felt they could not accept our terms.
    The Spanish government is bound to serve and protect the people of Spain.
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    Home Infrastructure: 1
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    Push/Pull: 1
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    Conscripts: 11,500
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    Industry: 2
    Home Infrastructure: 3
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    Push/Pull: 3
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    Conscripts: 0
    Army Level: 6
    Navy
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    Small Ships: 5
    Naval Level: 6
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    Industry: 0 (+1 in 1 turn)
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    Colonial Infrastructure: No colonies
    Push/Pull: 0
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    Conscripts: 15,000
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    Small Ships: 22
    Navy Level: 4
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    Income: +3,553
    Trade Balance: +20
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    Industry: 0 (+5 in 2 turns)
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    Colonial Infrastructure: No colonies
    Push/Pull: 0
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    Conscripts: 645,000
    Army Level: 6
    Navy
    Large Ships: 0
    Small Ships: 17
    Navy Level: 4
    At War With: NONE
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    Wait a minute...Ottoman Empire have higher income than British Empire ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edzako View Post
    Wait a minute...Ottoman Empire have higher income than British Empire ?
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