[Forum Game] - World in Revolution: 1861

[jacob-Lundgren]

OOC: Does this mean I get Quebec back?

[jacob-Lundgren]

His Majesty's Government asks that you all stop this nonsense. This conflict should be left regional lest it escalate to plunge the world back into war.

It is regretful that much of South America has moved to dive head first into the horrors of war. Based off of reports though it seems an all too common exchange of control over warships was simply attacked and interfered with. Fear and tension grips much of the world and there are seemingly few or no good examples of peace being made without what appears as vast hordes of loot or actual disagreements being solved by negotiations. If Europe shakes its fingers at the rest of the world and commands that others do as they say not as they do, is it a surprise that such is failing?

[DoomBunny]

OOC: I asked Canada. They said something about a Scots Pine and somewhere unpleasant, but I wont repeat the rest.

[King50000]

OOC: I would bet against Lincoln doing anything about Spain, violation of the Monroe Doctrine or not. If he won't listen to the majority of his people and is willing to get voted out of office in 2 years, why should he worry about Spain interfering in South America and breaking the little bit of International Law the US had established in the Western Hemisphere?

[jacob-Lundgren]

OOC: I would bet against Lincoln doing anything about Spain, violation of the Monroe Doctrine or not. If he won't listen to the majority of his people and is willing to get voted out of office in 2 years, why should he worry about Spain interfering in South America and breaking the little bit of International Law the US had established in the Western Hemisphere?

OOC: The South could surrender and the Brits could stop mucking about with the US if they expect them to enforce the Monroe Doctrine with full force?

[Duke of Britain]

OOC : Well, after some PM talks, it seems that Spain only started producing Ironclads during 1862, unlike the Brazilians, that had that technology by 1861...I haven't seen anything related to Spain suddently building them, so i would ask for an explaination.

[King50000]

OOC: The South could surrender and the Brits could stop mucking about with the US if they expect them to enforce the Monroe Doctrine with full force?

OOC: Or Lincoln could stop being an idiot and surrender, like the majority of his people are calling for.

[Dyranum]

The Confederacy of Guatemala and El Salvador is most worried at this recent development of the volatile situation in South America.

[Spitfire5793]

OOC : Well, after some PM talks, it seems that Spain only started producing Ironclads during 1862, unlike the Brazilians, that had that technology by 1861...I haven't seen anything related to Spain suddently getting Ironclad technology and building them, so i would ask for an explaination.

OOC: Spanish magic!

[Frymonmon]

The Monroe Doctrine is NOT a law! I will beat anyone here who says that again with a wet noodle!

[Duke of Britain]

The Monroe Doctrine is NOT a law! I will beat anyone here who says that again with a wet noodle!

OOC : Of course, but i still ask, from where the hell Spain suddently got ironclads? They haven't built any to my knowledge.

If my flagship wasn't an ironclad, i can't be sure if Spain has ANY ironclad at all.

[Spectre17]

The Brazilian government said it would not board or stop third party ships we do not believe the Brazilians can be trusted to honor there word. While Belgium will not interfere in this war we are firmly on Argentina's side now.

Leopold I, King of the Belgians

OOC: Excellent mini-update Fry. Doom I agree that we shouldn't start another massive war but I don't think Reis wanted to join but he kinda has to intervene now. The ironclad was probably one of the ones he got off France.

[Frymonmon]

OOC : Of course, but i still ask, from where the hell Spain suddently got ironclads? They haven't built any to my knowledge.

If my flagship wasn't an ironclad, i can't be sure if Spain has ANY ironclad at all.

Oh. Crap. I forgot to mention, the Spanish Ironclad is actually La Gloire. The French had to give it up to Spain.

[DoomBunny]

OOC : Well, after some PM talks, it seems that Spain only started producing Ironclads during 1862, unlike the Brazilians, that had that technology by 1861...I haven't seen anything related to Spain suddently building them, so i would ask for an explaination.

OOC: Actually the first Ironclad was the La Gloire in 1859 (Which pretty much scared the Royal Navy all kinds of hell) and this was followed by the Warrior in 1860 for the British. As far as I know, no other European power even started constructing Ironclads till 1862. Whilst Spain was one of these, and Brazil wasn't, it does seem a bit odd they could get Ironclads without us seeing any expansion in the updates of the navy.

Fry beat me to it. Although this brings up the question, can I have the ships and cash from the Treaty of Versailles now? Germany, Italy and myself are waiting for them I believe.

[Duke of Britain]

Spain promised that they would allow us to investigate their ships, perhaps you need to be more active on world politics.
This went too far.

OOC : EDIT : Then it is explained.
But Doom, Brazil had ironclad technology by 1861, i really haven't expanded the navy, so i can see why i wouldn't have any.

[Frymonmon]

Spain promised that they would allow us to investigate their ships, perhaps you need to be more active on world politics.
This went too far.

OOC : EDIT : Then it is explained.
But Doom, Brazil had ironclad technology by 1861, i really haven't expanded the navy, so i can see why i wouldn't have any.

The fact that you didn't order any expansion of your Navy since we started might explain why your flagship is (was) a wooden ship.

[reis91]

Spain promised that they would allow us to investigate their ships, perhaps you need to be more active on world politics.
This went too far.

OOC : EDIT : Then it is explained.
But Doom, Brazil had ironclad technology by 1861, i really haven't expanded the navy, so i can see why i wouldn't have any.

OOC: I let you investigate, I didn't say you could do anything about it. In fact, I was kinda hoping your admirals were stupid enough to do that.

[Duke of Britain]

The fact that you didn't order any expansion of your Navy since we started might explain why your flagship is (was) a wooden ship.

OOC : Interestingly, the turn the war was forced on us was the turn i planned to start a massive rebuilding of the navy, willing to even go into debt.

Also Reis, if you take an active role in the war your people will probably get annoyed and the other south american countries worried.

EDIT : And you actually broke your promise in the end, your captain ordered my admiral out of the ships whiout any explainations.

[jacob-Lundgren]

OOC: French ships are all over the world....except in France it seems. Oh and just because spain is allowing inspections doesn't mean France is. We are against interference in free trade with established governments as we said. Also this would not have happened, nor austria getting a navy, had you guys left me the entire fleet the last french guy built.

[reis91]

The Kingdom of Spain does not wish for an escalation of the conflict. We will settle the issue with Brazil in return for monetary compensation for damages to the Spanish Armada.

We need not remind the other nations that Argentina is a sovereign nation by international law, and therefore the transaction is entirely legitimate. Brazil conducted an unprovoked attack upon the Kingdom of Spain and should be condemned by the international community.

OOC: It's not a violation of Monroe doctrine if Brazil decides to attack foreign shipping.