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    The signatories do hereby agree to the following:
    • The United States of America and the South African Republic will conduct trade with one another.
    • Tariffs shall not be placed upon any American or Boer product in either nation.
    • The South African Republic shall not recognize nor aid the rebel government currently occupying the southern United States in any way whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frymonmon View Post
    Currently writing another update for the American Civil War.

    THE MOST Important Battle in this ENTIRE war so far.
    OOC: I am predicting a Gettysburg for one of the sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrell8 View Post
    OOC: I am predicting a Gettysburg for one of the sides.
    OOC: *Glares at title of update that Fry gave in pm*
    I certainly see it named Gettysburg.
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    Signed:
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    [X] President Abraham Lincoln of the United States of America
    Signed by President Lincoln.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suirantes View Post
    OOC: *Glares at title of update that Fry gave in pm*
    I certainly see it named Gettysburg.
    OOC: Have you ordered your army of North Virginia into Pennsylvania by any chance. This could really be a deciding battle. The Union may have been sent reeling by the military defeats on the Mississippi despite Sherman's successes. This Gettysburg Is probably going to be massive border clash as Gettysburg is what 12km maybe north from Maryland ( IF this distance is wrong don't blame me Have you tried to measure distances on Google maps) or a Confederate Campaign which is swiftly confronted by the Union army in the area. This could well be a turning point defeat for the union would compound earlier defeats heavily weakening their position while a Confederate victory would likely result in the Fall of large tracts of land falling into Confederate hands if this battle is as important as it's supposed to be.

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    His royal majesty, William III is sad that the Union Army lost one of its most important generals in Grant and now wonders how many more people Lincoln is going to send to their deaths before he sees sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrell8 View Post
    OOC: That's odd, I could have sworn that I edited the argentine stats, I'll fix it when I get on my computer.
    OOC: also my bank account should be 195 not 235
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    OOC: Fry, how do decide on the winners of battles? Do you roll dice or something?

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    The Gettysburg Campaign: August - September 1862


    While the Western Generals were starting their offensive into the Confederacy, the Eastern Generals of the Army of the Susquehanna and the Army of Pennsylvania, Generals Meade and McClellan respectively, devised a strategy to try and out-maneuver Lee and use their numerical superiority to crush his Army of Northern Virginia. They understood that General Lee was somewhere in Pennsylvania, and they needed to find a way to drive in back into Maryland, or even Virginia if they could. Agreeing with the Navy, the two Generals finalized their strategy. They would move both of their armies South, looking to attack Westminster, Maryland. This, they hoped, would draw the Army of Northern Virginia out where they could crush them, and drive back towards Washington.

    General Lee, however, had other plans. President Davis had recently ordered Lee to attack Philadelphia to try and capture the new Union Capitol, but Lee kept it on the back of his mind, going after it only if they could get rid of the Union Army they were facing. General J.E.B. Stuart, always the audacious one, was riding into Pennsylvania to try and disrupt communications. It was his cavalry that saw the movements from the Union army, coming towards Westminster. Quickly reporting back to General Lee with this information, Lee made his decision. He would ride up towards the advancing Union Army, and hopefully, find a position favorable to the Confederacy on Union ground, away from Maryland, where he could sit and have the Union Army break against his lines. His army, totaling around 72,644 men was going to face the new Army of Pennsylvania and the Army of Susquehanna, totaling around 134,464 between them. General Lee knew of the rough numbers, and figured it was about 2 to 1 odds. This was the worst ratio he had ever faced, but he was sure that he would be able to pull off a victory, somehow.

    Movements started on August 14th, with General Lee ordering his Corps froward into the North. General A.P. Hill decided to march along Taneytown Road, with General Ewell marching along the Baltimore Pike. General Jackson decided to march up to Hanover, and from there assess his situation. General Longstreet, stationed in Washington City, took the Westminster Road, hoping to handle the rear of the Army. General Jackson changed his route in Hanover to march along the Hanover Road. These movements were designed to bring the entire Confederate Army to bear in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. It was here that General Lee thought they would regroup and then asses where they should move to.

    Just a day later, the Union Army began their march down South, towards Westminster. As if by design, the Union Army also planned to converge in Gettysburg before pushing South once again. Generals Pope and Sedgwick marched on the Chambersburg Pike, Slocum and Hancock coming down the Carlisle Road. General Sickles was approaching from the North, down Harrisburg Road. While General Burnside make his way along York Road.


    1. The Overview of Movements before the Battle of Gettysburg.


    The tentative moments of sporadic fighting began around mid-morning on August 20th, 1862. Nothing serious, with shots fired and no injuries. Now, both of the armies knew exactly where the other was. The stage was set for the largest war ever seen in Human History to this point. Pitting the Army of Northern Virginia, General Lee commanding against the Army of the Susquehanna, General Meade commanding. Supporting the Army of the Susquehanna was the Army of Pennsylvania, General McClellan commanding. The Army of Pennsylvania was mostly raw recruits, with only two regiments of veteran infantry.

    The opening hours of August 21st, 1862 was marked as the First Day of the Battle of Gettysburg.

    Only General Longstreet's and General Jackson's Corps were fully up and ready on August 21st. They were facing four corps of Union Infantry. General Longstreet had to deal with the Corps of Pope and Sedgwick. Longstreet was positioned along the Southern edge of Fairfield Road, setting up his men across Seminary Ridge and to the stream. The Union attacks came quickly, and they surprised General Longstreet, not expecting two corps to bear down upon him so early in the morning. The fighting was fierce, and the ever cautious General Longstreet was forced to pull back. Not wanting to get double flanked, he moved his Corps South and East, linking up with General Ewell's corps who were stilling coming online.

    The situation North of Gettysburg was quite, with Sickle's Corps coming down Carlisle Road and occupying the town of Gettysburg. A regiment or two was detached in order to try and fight against General Longstreet's men, but the cost was to high, and they decided to return back to Gettysburg.

    General Jackson, positioned East of the town, had several problems to deal with. He had to keep an eye on Sickle's Corps, as well as defend against General Burnside's division coming down from the York Road. Jackson was originally positioned along the South side of the York road, but he had to turn his right flank to deal with General Burnside. Jackson, unable to hold his position, was forced to retreat after fighting for several hours, finding that their position was simply unfavorable, not even the genius of General Jackson could hold the Confederate line, and they broke and ran South, towards Culp's Hill.

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    2. Day 1 of the Battle of Gettysburg.


    During the night, the rest of Ewell's and Hill's Corps were up, along with a few extra divisions of Jackson's and Longstreet's Corps. Finally, the entire Army of Northern Virginia was camped out South of Gettysburg, ready to try and keep the Union Army from breaking them.

    The fighting was initiated by General Burnside who decided to try and move Generals Jackson and Hill off of Culp's Hill. Burnside, not knowing that both Hill and Jackson had ordered entrenchments built during the night, ordered his Corps to charge up the Hill to try and disengage them. It wasn't until two charges in that Burnside was given the information. He ordered that the assault be stopped immediately, and a charge be renewed against the Confederate forces at Cemetery Hill. This too, proved fruitless as General Jackson counter-charged down the hill, holding the very bottom of the hill, like a Stonewall. His actions in defending Cemetery Hill earned him the nickname "Stonewall" Jackson.

    The other fighting took place South, at the other flank of the Confederate Army. General Longstreet, abandoning his position from the first day, took up a defensive position in the Peach Orchard, hoping the terrain would discourage a Union attack. However, General Meade wouldn't have anything of it. He ordered General Slocum to fully engage. General Longstreet was determined to try and hold his line, and General Lee was pressuring Longstreet not to give up any more ground.

    True to Lee's word, Longstreet fought fiercely in the Peach Orchard, before being driven back to the Wheat Field, until finally he was forced to retreat to the Devil's Den. Every step of the way, Union men feel by the dozen. But they were not deterred, much to Longstreet's dismay. After taking nearly six thousand casualties before the day was done, General Longstreet finally gave up and ordered his men into defensive positions on two small hills, forming the Left Flank of the Confederate Army. Finally, after two days of stalemate and constant running by the Confederate Army, the stage was set for the final day of battle.

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    3. Day 2 of the Battle of Gettysburg.


    The Third Day of the Battle of Gettysburg decided the entire battle, and with it, the fate of the Gettysburg Campaign.

    General Meade, confident in both of the Army's ability to break the Confederates, ordered every single Union Corps to attack the Confederate line, which looped like a fishhook around Culp's Hill, all the way down to the Little Round tops. Although the ground was favorable, General Lee was worried that the Union Army would flank him on both sides and take his army by the rear. By doing this, General Lee tried to ensure his flanks were strong and well defended.

    In the early morning, General Burnside, along with General Slocum, assaulted the Confederate lines. General A.P. Hill and General Jackson, in charge of the Confederate Right Flank, ordered more men to hold the line. Wave after wave of Union men charged up the hill, determined to shove the Confederates back. With each and every charge the Confederates responded with an equally fierce defense. Two days of digging in finally paid off, as General Burnside, faced with huge casualties, called off his attacks completely.

    General Slocum, was even more unlucky in the South. General Longstreet had ordered fortifications be be built on the top of the steep hills. The Union charged valiantly up the steep hills, with musket fire and cannon raining down upon them. General George Pickett, commander of the 1st Division, 2nd Corps of the Army of Northern Virginia, held the extreme Left Flank of the Confederate Army. General Slocum focused his forces here. The message to General Pickett was clear. Hold the little rocky hill at all costs.

    Three Union charges later, with heavy casualties, resulted in heavy Confederate casualties as well. General Pickett was distraught, his army was running out of ammunition. A few hours before noon, Slocum ordered yet another charge against the Confederate Lines. Leading this charge was the 20th Maine Regiment. Matched against the 18th Virginia Infantry. Completely run out of ammo, General Pickett was unsure what to do. Thinking quickly, he ordered bayonets attached, and for the entire 1st Division to sweep down, in the shape of an L, to drive back the Yankees.

    This move, dubbed "Pickett's Charge" was a resounding success. Sustaining little casualties on his side, many Union men were captured, and the rest of the Union assault broke and ran, retreating back to the safety of the Union centre. Captured in this affair was Colonel Joshua Chamberlain, who praised General Pickett for his valiant and brilliant bayonet charge.

    It was around noon that the action on the flanks ceased. General Meade was left with a very difficult decision. Both attacks on the flanks were a failure. He reasoned that the Flanks were fortified, and the Centre was weak. At 12:46 PM, he ordered the commencement of a massive charge to be undertaken by elements of General Pope, General Sickles, and General Hancock's three corps. Headed by General Hancock, this charge was meant to break the Confederate Centre, divide their Army, and smash it.

    At 1:34 PM, 55,000 men rallied together at Seminary Ridge, and began their march toward the Confederate Centre. Generals Jackson and Ewell, seeing this move, ordered a massive artillery barrage to weaken the incoming forces. By the time the Union forces reached Emmittsburg Road, the call for the double-quick was given. Thousands of men fell as the defending Confederates, bolstered by reserves and men from the Flanks, fired back at the Union troops, defiant, and unwavering.

    The 3rd Division of the IX Corps of the Army of Susquehanna was the first to read the stonewall which the Confederates were camped behind. The Confederates tried desperately to drive them back, using grapeshot, and calling up every cannon they could muster. At the position called "The Angle" the Union Army converged. The entire Battle hinged on this very spot.

    Climbing over the wall, the Union troops quickly started to establish a foothold. Regiment after Regiment poured into the area, many mean cheering because they felt victory. The moral of the Confederates was crumbling, more and more territory was lost the Union invaders. The casualties grew ever higher as regiment after regiment on both sides was destroyed.

    Suddenly, charging at full speed, was General J.E.B. Stuart's Calvary. Word of the breech traveled fast, and acting without orders General Stuart took his entire division of cavalry, and slammed them into the Union foothold. Cutlass met flesh, as the Cavalry division destroyed any semblance of Union organization. This help, once the Cavalry dismounted, resulted in the Confederates plugging up the hole in their line, and firing back at the now retreating, and battered, Union divisions.

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    4. Day 3 of the Battle of Gettysburg.


    The entire thing was failure for General Meade and the Union Army. By the very resolve, the will of the Confederate Army, it kept itself intact. Greatly battered, General Meade was resigned to defeat. Both sides were equally as tired as the other, but the Confederate's held their position. The actions of JEB Stuart's Calvary was praised throughout the Confederate Army, and Damned throughout the Union Army. The losses sustained by both the Union armies were simply too much to handle. General McClellan resigned his position as head of the Army of Pennsylvania, and ordered the remainder of his men into the Army of the Susquehanna.

    On August 24th, 1862, General George Meade ordered his entire Army to retreat Northwards, pulling out of Gettysburg and ceding the town, the ground, and hundreds of wagon's worth of supplies to the Confederate Army. The retreat was undertaken in an orderly fashion, taking up position in Harrisburg, across the Susquehanna River. On September 1st, 1862, General Meade met with his staff, and against their protests, he resigned from the United States Army.


    5. General Meade and his staff, on the day Meade resigned from the Union Army.


    General Lee, knowing full well of his victory, took the time to reestablish himself in Gettysburg, making it the hub of the Confederate Army in the area, shipping supplies and reinforcements from down South. For the rest of September, Gettysburg would serve as the headquarters of General Robert E. Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia. Content at the victory, Lee decided he would make camp early here, waiting for the Fall and Winter to be over. It would take until next year for the Union Army to be anywhere close to fighting ability, and Lee needed to give his gallant troops a rest.

    In mid September, 1862, Confederate President Jefferson Davis arrived by stagecoach in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, to deliver the now famous Gettysburg Address.

    Quote Originally Posted by President Davis' Gettysburg Address
    Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men have the right to govern themselves.

    Now we are engaged in a great war of independence, testing whether any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can survive on that principle. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that our nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

    But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thandros View Post
    OOC: Have you ordered your army of North Virginia into Pennsylvania by any chance. This could really be a deciding battle. The Union may have been sent reeling by the military defeats on the Mississippi despite Sherman's successes. This Gettysburg Is probably going to be massive border clash as Gettysburg is what 12km maybe north from Maryland ( IF this distance is wrong don't blame me Have you tried to measure distances on Google maps) or a Confederate Campaign which is swiftly confronted by the Union army in the area. This could well be a turning point defeat for the union would compound earlier defeats heavily weakening their position while a Confederate victory would likely result in the Fall of large tracts of land falling into Confederate hands if this battle is as important as it's supposed to be.
    OOC: I've been getting a strong sensation that you don't want the North to win.

    Edit: Wow I didn't order them to go anywhere near Gettysburg.

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    OOC: Noooooo! Davis stole Lincoln's speech!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskeato View Post
    OOC: I've been getting a strong sensation that you don't want the North to win.

    Edit: Wow I didn't order them to go anywhere near Gettysburg.
    You did, however, order then "West towards Westminster"

    They were marching to Westminster, and this is where the two armies met up and fought.

    EDIT: Many Generals in the Civil War didn't follow orders to the T. Hell, Lee was ordered to go to Philadelphia. Neither side followed orders directly.
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    OOC: Love how it is basically the exact opposite of the actual battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frymonmon View Post
    You did, however, order then "West towards Westminster"

    They were marching to Westminster, and this is where the two armies met up and fought.

    EDIT: Many Generals in the Civil War didn't follow orders to the T. Hell, Lee was ordered to go to Philadelphia. Neither side followed orders directly.
    OOC: And for the armies to cross the river at Havre de Grace, hence West to Westminster and not South. It's happened now anyway.

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    OOC : Great mini-update, was a nice read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seek75 View Post
    OOC: Noooooo! Davis stole Lincoln's speech!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskeato View Post
    OOC: And for the armies to cross the river at Havre de Grace, hence West to Westminster and not South. It's happened now anyway.
    OOC: I guess the generals decided to go straight for Westminster and didn't follow your orders to the letter.

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    OOC: Nice speech. Although 'that all men have the right to govern themselves' applies to everyone who isn't Black, right?

    Whats support for Mr Lincoln like after all these defeats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskeato View Post
    OOC: I've been getting a strong sensation that you don't want the North to win.

    Edit: Wow I didn't order them to go anywhere near Gettysburg.
    OOC: First point actually that's not true I'd rather see them grind each other into dust but that's just me.

    Second Point there must have a communication mix up on your side somewhere.

    Finally Wow a reserve history everything basically happened backwards and the Union even had more men and still lost that's going to hurt losing 68000 men to 38000. I suppose Pickett's charge would be a success as it had to be included in a reserve Gettysburg man that was awesome. But still after that bloody loss the Union armies in the region still add up too about 67000 while Lee only has roughly 37000 so Lee is still outnumbered almost two to one but that loss will cripple Union Morale Surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrell8 View Post
    OOC: I guess the generals decided to go straight for Westminster and didn't follow your orders to the letter.
    OOC: Heh I guess. The only thing they did try to follow was heading towards Westminster.

    @Fry, did my two armies combine before the battle? I couldn't quite work it out but it seems they did :/

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