"Est Modus in Rebus" — Tuesdays, 20:30 CET

[Lama43]

I just looked at the save, how the fuck did Albania get to own Corfu?

[Scion]

I just looked at the save, how the fuck did Albania get to own Corfu?

rebels that wandered there presumably?

[Lama43]

rebels that wandered there presumably?

Since when Corfu has Albanian culture?

[Scion]

Since when Corfu has Albanian culture?

albanian rebels, that wander to corfu...take it, will (when they control it long enough) make it an albanian province.

[silktrader]

I just looked at the save, how the fuck did Albania get to own Corfu?

The save game tells that rebels gained control over the island in 1424, it must have then switched ownership to Albania. There weren't nationalists, so I would assume religious rebels, Orthodox, defected — Corfu starts as Catholic.

On other news, I've found why Sharpcat had lost prestige while acquiring cores on Ireland — it's now fixed.

[Lama43]

albanian rebels, that wander to corfu...take it, will (when they control it long enough) make it an albanian province.

Ah right the Orthodox rebels.

Can it then be edited in? It's not really that bad since it went to a vassal, but it's one less hassle.

[pilis]

Ashalia — Pilis is a seasoned player. We've played together on different occasions, we frequently chat and we more or less know what the other is going to do. He's not a bit concerned about Poland, he's merely playing the victim's role. Often being an instigator, he was the target of coordinated reprisals a number of times, in other campaigns: so it would seem he's decided to try his hand at the diplomatic game™ to avoid being singled out.

Meh i am not that seasoned not like you and Austria.

The Russo-Polish war is going to be a sporty matter between two bastardly bastards, who will slug it out and shake hands after a good exercise, realising that the conflict budged absolutely nothing.

You mean a war where Russia have same chance of victory as San Marino got in a football match against Spain.

Tbh how good chance do anyone have in a war against a mod? its like fighting against the devs, pointless.

There isn't an alliance between Austria and Poland: there's a Polish guarantee on Austria. Its purpose, like the mutual military access, is pretty simple: to raise relations to acquire the "Western Arms Trade" modifier — which is nothing fancy, nor new to the mod.

You mean the Austria who told me they would help you out in any war between us two if you ask for it?

Unlike Russia, which finds itself in a corner position, Poland doesn't have the luxury of alienating its every neighbour, by generously agreeing to whichever alliances. I will carefully pick my suitors: make sure they come from good families, that they are well bred, educated — handsome, obviously — and gentleman like.

Russia have tried to be friendly with all neighbors and have only been answered with insults and warmongering. Sadly the russian count are not civilized enough to come and play with the big boys. But we are Mainly and fearless and will stare down the Civilized Eastern Superpower alone if we have to.

Its really easy to do diplo when people talks like this

Silktrader
You know that when I call you a "dirty bastard" I don't mean it, right?
Pilis
yea
Silktrader
In fact I mean you're a treacherous mongrel!

[yah]

well I do remember a game where I was at war with Silk for 20 years as muscowy, and its true, I couldnt beat him

[sharpcat]

The save game tells that rebels gained control over the island in 1424, it must have then switched ownership to Albania. There weren't nationalists, so I would assume religious rebels, Orthodox, defected — Corfu starts as Catholic.

On other news, I've found why Sharpcat had lost prestige while acquiring cores on Ireland — it's now fixed.

Sweet. Chances of getting said prestige restored? :P

[silktrader]

Pilis, there won't be further comments from Poland, the "superpower of the East".

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As for edits, let's collect all the issues — mod related:

• England: +20 prestige, Irish cores
• Burgundy: +5 prestige, in Luxembourg
• Ottoman Empire: two "Military Takeover" in Erserum and Trebizon with two or three years remaining

Did IronVanguard also attempt to conquer Timurid land.

Corfu's revolt when Lama was away can be reverted to the original situation.

[pilis]

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As for edits, let's collect all the issues — mod related:

• England: +20 prestige, Irish cores
• Burgundy: +5 prestige, in Luxembourg
• Ottoman Empire: two "Military Takeover" in Erserum and Trebizon with two or three years remaining

Did IronVanguard also attempt to conquer Timurid land.

Corfu's revolt when Lama was away can be reverted to the original situation.

3 Cores, +15 prestige for the weak Russian state ( Still think you should have integrate core modifer on Novograd and Tver instead of remove it all togheter?)

Pilis, there won't be further comments from Poland, the "superpower of the East".

Good that we both agree to Poland is the superpower of the east

[Syber_sid]

I, for one, welcome our new Polish overlords.

[Scion]

I, for one, welcome our new Polish overlords.

we are so used to that situation anyway...

[Mach1av3ll1]

I, for one, welcome our new Polish overlords.

The co-duke of Burgundy is hesitant at best

He's not a bit concerned about Poland, he's merely playing the victim's role. Often being an instigator, he was the target of coordinated reprisals a number of times, in other campaigns: so it would seem he's decided to try his hand at the diplomatic game™ to avoid being singled out.

It's allll sooooooooo trueeeeeeeeee. If every time Pilis said he was a victim was true, he'd be the poor hapless weakling who the whole community has universally decided to force him to war dec them in order to destroy him in a manner of bullying most twisted

[Elmokki]

The Portugese academics would like to present some data that works towards proving that the more west a country is, the more civilized it is. The Portugese academics would like to apologize this being a bit late, but the superior intelligence the western location of Portugal offers has allowed whole Portugal to take a four day long siesta since everything that had to be done was done already.

Poland got 33% higher land tech than Russia

This, is very easilly possible to tie to current date so it's probably just Russia having 3 and Poland having 4 and isn't a big issue. It could however mean something actually meaningful if taken out of context like Russia having 30 and Poland having 40.

Poland got 45% less inflation

This is not tied to dates so it's even more ambiguous. It could be Russia with 1% inflation and Poland with 0.65% Inflation or it could be Russia with 50% inflation and Poland with 32.5% inflation. The absolute difference is huge.

Thus the Portugese academics swould like to point out how poor this propaganda is. The Portugese academics would, however, like to also note that the propaganda is most likely aimed at other countries that are nearly as east as the russians, and therefore it might well work.

[Mach1av3ll1]

Portugese academics

I lol'd

[silktrader]

The new mod's version is here — it contains today's saved game, with the following changes:

• England: +20 prestige, Irish cores
• Burgundy: +5 prestige, in Luxembourg
• Ottoman Empire: two "Military Takeover" in Erserum and Trebizon
• Polish ghost vassal "Mazovia" removed
• Muscovite ghost vassal "Tver" removed

[silktrader]

The mumble server's up, it's actually named "murmur": the address is 82.233.63.138 — it's all in the first post.

[sharpcat]

Well, I lost more than 20 due to some of those events firing twice - it was closer to 30-40 prestige, but I am happy with 20 restored. Something to look into though!

[Lama43]

Just warning, i may be a little late for this session considering recent news, something like 30 minutes at max, sorry!