Austria is outraged at this. Our trading brethern to the south should take their rightfull place amongst nation!Originally Posted by Lama43
Austria is outraged at this. Our trading brethern to the south should take their rightfull place amongst nation!
That's the plan, if you'll have me.
Also: I'm quite pleased myself with how things went. The first decade or so was mostly spent getting to grips with the mod. A lot of the changes are generally fairly subtle though -- and provided you play with the mindset of, "If it was too good to be true in vanilla, it's probably not going to work quite the way I intend here" there aren't really big surprises.
I am sorry but the map is an exclusive club, reserved to those who can actually amount to a few dozen pixels. Sadly, those who don't meet these requirements get but a pat on the shoulder, as encouragement. We invite you to sit at our "kid's table", where the menu includes complimentary chips and soda.
*pats Lama43's shoulder*
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(It's my fault, I'll update the map ... there, it's done)
Did anyone try the mod more than 30-60 min?
The great polish king are going to annex the poor duchy in the north.
The weak duke of Muscovy are interested in any help he can get to stop the superpower of the east.
Madbugger says
You're always evil.
The session went quite well... however inflation has ran rampant to maintain an almost continuous war effort against various opponents, as such much effort will be required to control it. On the bright side, things went better then in my single-player tests! Also those stability costs are killing me :x
i think i tested it a few hours, had about 5 test games as muscowy.
The map in the first page was updated. About statistics: most values won't be properly computed by the traditional tool, but they would obviously inform us about province numbers, income, inflation and armies. Could somebody volunteer to update statistics.
This is Pilis' sorry attempt at stirring up people and initiating diplomacy. Man, you'll need to be a bit more creative and elaborate: bring up some numbers, invent some if necessary, question my morals, evoke my thirst for blood, cook up some catastrophic scenarios, downplay your capabilities but do so using more than one adjective.
Here's some numbers for you to think over:
If you lose the war it's your mistake, as you have more manpower, income and provinces so it won't be due to some hypothetical imparity.
Poland: 15 provinces, 13.2 ducats per month, 20 regiments, 28K manpower
Russia: 21 provinces, 14.3 ducats per month, 19 regiments, 36K manpower
But you forget: THE SKY IS FALLING!
Poland got 33% higher land tech than Russia
Poland got a never ending alliance with Austria
Poland got a 12k lith vassal army.
Poland got 45% less inflation
Should also remember that Silktrader is a player who have own everyone since 2007 and just to quote Elcy*
And i am just a worthless player that are playing with the vets.
* Translated from swedish
Last edited by pilis; 08-02-2012 at 21:42.
Madbugger says
You're always evil.
Pills,
you haven't any ally there?
If not, you should try to counterbalance the alliance between Poland/Austria with a diplomacy approach...
No one want to speak with me so.
Madbugger says
You're always evil.
Did you try to speak with England/Sweden/Hansa/Ottoman....?
I agree that Silktrader is more powerfull than you if Austria help him but in a 1 vs 1 i think you have your chance. So i don't understand why you're complaining... You're not so weak xD
This doesn't mean i will help. France has no intention to intervene between you. I have my own "enemies"
Last edited by ashalia; 08-02-2012 at 22:37.
I wonder, did silk get his austrian alliance by screaming for help in public chat?
No one did even answer me during the session
Guess i am just cannon fodder to be sacrifice.
Its also about player skills where i am worthless and silktrader is the best.
Just look what i have done to Moskva in one session (second highest inflation, lowest Land tech, etc)
Madbugger says
You're always evil.
Muscowy is in a very difficult situation to begin with, and i think you've done just fine so far.
what is this talk of a perma-alliance between Austria and Poland?
Pills i don't remember when you ask on the game for help... Maybe you should send some pm and stop complaining on public.
Another thing is that i check on the save, and Austria and Poland aren't ally now.
what is my size doing here?!Length . . . . . . . . . . . 18 cm
Length (flaccid) . . . . . 10 cm
Ashalia Pilis is a seasoned player. We've played together on different occasions, we frequently chat and we more or less know what the other is going to do. He's not a bit concerned about Poland, he's merely playing the victim's role. Often being an instigator, he was the target of coordinated reprisals a number of times, in other campaigns: so it would seem he's decided to try his hand at the diplomatic game to avoid being singled out.
The Russo-Polish war is going to be a sporty matter between two bastardly bastards, who will slug it out and shake hands after a good exercise, realising that the conflict budged absolutely nothing.
There isn't an alliance between Austria and Poland: there's a Polish guarantee on Austria. Its purpose, like the mutual military access, is pretty simple: to raise relations to acquire the "Western Arms Trade" modifier which is nothing fancy, nor new to the mod.
I won't exclude an alliance with Austria in the future, just as I won't exclude alliances with any country if the circumstances demand it. There were talks concerning the Polish sale of Upper Lusatia to Austria, and reassurances about Poland steering clear of Germany but these matters will have to be sorted with Saharez, should he desire to resume talks.
Unlike Russia, which finds itself in a corner position, Poland doesn't have the luxury of alienating its every neighbour, by generously agreeing to whichever alliances. I will carefully pick my suitors: make sure they come from good families, that they are well bred, educated handsome, obviously and gentleman like.
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