"Est Modus in Rebus" — Tuesdays, 20:30 CET

[Mach1av3ll1]

This crap happens all the time. I dont object but I find it silly to

A) Blame the defeat on the vassals of Austria who have yet to fight in France (I've got about 153.2 german vassals directly subject to me fighting in this war) and

B) edit the vassals out of the war.

Austria could have declined, although the prestige hit would hurt. He chose not to. That's how it goes senor. I've been called into many wars and whitepeaced with my vassals running amock.

That said, feel free to edit them out. Also, Ashalia I wrote you on msn, we can talk a bit during the week.

[silktrader]

We agreed we would exclusively edit issues stemming from the mod. Since Machiavelli doesn't condone the edit concerning Austrian vassals we're not going to proceed — blame her.

[Scion]

We agreed we would exclusively edit issues stemming from the mod. Since Machiavelli doesn't condone the edit concerning Austrian vassals we're not going to proceed — blame her.

damn that mach woman!

also: shouldnt the roster be updated, no pilis...more scion in OE?

[Lord Austere]

Any maps of last session? Very keen to learn what happened.

[sharpcat]

We agreed we would exclusively edit issues stemming from the mod. Since Machiavelli doesn't condone the edit concerning Austrian vassals we're not going to proceed — blame her.

"That said, feel free to edit them out." -

[Mach1av3ll1]

"That said, feel free to edit them out." -

luls i no rite.

I think his point is that he said only issues stemming from the mod, whereas this is universal, and that he's too lazy and doesnt want to edit all those minors out of the war, which can get tricky

But forreals, with or without the edits I'm indifferent, simply wanted to express my thoughts.

[ashalia]

England should have asked Saharez, and if he did and said he is ok, i consider the intervention of Austria like a betrayal even if he peace peace me right after the declaration.
I made a great error to make an agreement with Austria.
Another error follows directly from the first, i garentee the new vassals of Austria = Nevers... I thought he will intervene with me.

Errors are never remade twice

[Lama43]

I'm so sorry for not showing up yesterday, but i was studying for a test on a subject i didn't know a shit about just a day earlier, and it kinda went out of hand, after i finally finished at 21:00 or so i was too tired for EU3

[saharez]

England should have asked Saharez, and if he did and said he is ok, i consider the intervention of Austria like a betrayal even if he peace peace me right after the declaration.
I made a great error to make an agreement with Austria.
Another error follows directly from the first, i garentee the new vassals of Austria = Nevers... I thought he will intervene with me.

Errors are never remade twice

England never asked Austria.

Austria is very upset with the situation as it is, but Austria is not sure how it should respond.

Austria is sad that Ashalia does not see the merit in the agreements that was made with Austria, in addition Austria will point out that Frances situation is not stemming from the agreements, but from choices made beyond what any agreement entailed.

[ashalia]

So you should change your allies, how can you forgot an alliance treaty...?
Seing all the minors of Austria by the side of my current ennemies is a betrayal, after all i've done to help you. That's my opinion.

[Syber_sid]

Austria is very upset with the situation as it is, but Austria is not sure how it should respond.

Does Austria like toffee ice cream?

[saharez]

So you should change your allies, how can you forgot an alliance treaty...?
Seing all the minors of Austria by the side of my current ennemies is a betrayal, after all i've done to help you. That's my opinion.

England called me into a war out of forgetfullness, being a human he is bound to make mistakes, I was then faced with the choice of taking a prestige hit and losing important electors to your ally, Milan, which over the past decade had done alot to secure votes, given those circumstances I had to take the call, which is regretable considering it is very detrimental to me.
You call it betrayal, I call your accusation empty and a baseless attempt to justify your impending defeat to yourself and the world.
My vassals have had little to no impact on the war, 80% of the total vassal force have not yet been in any battles, another 10% was wiped out nearly instantly, which leaves roughly 3 regiments or so which have been opposing you.

As for how you forget an alliance, it is fairly simple, it has happened to most of the longterm players in this community at one time or another, is it careless? Definetely, foolish? Indeed, does it happen? Yes!

Does Austria like toffee ice cream?

Austria absolutely loves toffee ice cream!

[ashalia]

I'm sure i had more chance against only England and Burgundy and their minors,
definitely i could have lost too, because Burgundy is the most powerfull nation for the moment, maybe not, who knows?
I helped you and see now all your minors against me. Your "error" is like a betrayal for me.

That's my opinion.
And i would like to thanks again Luminary who help me trying to win this.

[Mach1av3ll1]

Quick note: The vassalized electors thing hasnt reset despite me releasing cologne atleast forever ago.

[Mach1av3ll1]

"Mijn hertog van Bourgondië en Vlaanderen, hebben we onderschept een boodschap van de koning van Frankrijk aan de koning van Polen!"
(My Duke of Burgundy, we have intercepted a message from the King of France to the King of Poland!)

N'édites pas la save concernant les vassaux, si ce n'est pas déjà fais.

J'ai discuté avec Luminary II, Duc de Milan, et je vais accepter les conditions de Sharpcat "le rapace", Roi d'Angleterre.

Je suis désolé d'avoir un peu "perdu" les pédales hier mais j'ai ressentis assez mal ce que je considère comme une trahison de Saharez. Que Sharpcat vienne profité comme un rapace je m'y attendais et que Mach, Duc de Bourgogne vienne réclamer Nevers aussi
Mais que Saharez m'abandonne à mon sort et ajoutes ses vassaux... ça non xD
L'Angleterre ne l'emportera pas au paradis, même si c'est pas avec 10 navires que je vais l'envahir lol

Pareillement pour la pause, j'ai eu environ une trentaine de pop ups mdr...

Bonne journée

"Ik zal sturen naar hertog Google van Vertalen voor onmiddellijke vertaling."

(I shall send it to Duc Google de Translate for immediate translation.)

PS: In the context of full disclosure I may or may not have edited in the titles under the umbrella of creative license.

EDIT: Decided to make it all in Dutch, you know the dukes of burgundy don't actually live in Burgundy after all.

[ashalia]

have you caught my diplomat in a tavern? lol
And i suspect you rewrite some words there xD

[Mach1av3ll1]

have you caught my diplomat in a tavern? lol

Indeed. And then I rufied him. And took his message. Nothing sexual happened...

[ashalia]

Nothing sexual happened...

Better like that,
he will suffer for the lose of this message

[sharpcat]

Mach, clear out your inbox please!

[silktrader]

Quick note: The vassalized electors thing hasnt reset despite me releasing cologne atleast forever ago.

You won't believe the answer: it's because the Maldives were annexed (true story) — an illustrious example of Lorenz "butterfly effect". It's been fixed and should properly work next session.