The biggest drawback with forming Scandinavia is that you won´t get to play as Sweden anymore
Thats a good argument
The biggest drawback with forming Scandinavia is that you won´t get to play as Sweden anymore
I'm at work, just browsing the forums between calls from clients. I am now incredibly curious why everyone seems to dislike the game's flag for a unified Scandinavia. I just started playing a week ago and haven't had a chance to unify my own advisers, much less an entire region. Does anyone have a link to the flag? I tried googling, but didn't get an immediately obvious result.
Thanks!
Thats a good argument
Poland usually doesn't exist in my games because it suffered from early partitions by Bohemia and Austria.Well only country that is more awesome than sweden is poland... and ulm of course.
Poland usually doesn't exist in my games because it suffered from early partitions by Bohemia and Austria.
I've never seen a threatening Eastern tech group country. Even the large snaking ones melt before a decent sized Bohemia/Austria/Burgundy.Well because AI is dumb, and don't send tribute offer to GH instantly... otherwise, the one who would be trolling over HRE, would be poland, not bohemia. (if they would manage to not lose the union with lithuania).
Iwanow : Is it possible for me to delete my thread again? Since you guys insist on talking about flags, of all things!
It could've been possible if Sweden didn't lose the Great Northern War, which it actually could've won had it not been so greedy. After the Thirty Years War, Denmark is basically a non-entity so the main problem would've been fending off Russia.
Gian Galeazzo Visconti thought at least a unified northern (i.e. Lombard) Italy perfectly plausible.An unified Italy probably didn't seem very plausible in the timeframe of the game.
...In real life, yes...well, maybe..
Actually we had a rather large navy until Nelson took it away. I think of that as the point where forming Scandinavia for Denmark became a rather more remote possibility...
It's close enough. Those wars occurred just after the Thirty Years War.Denmark became a "non-entity" when it lost Skåne not at the thirty years war.
The prime factor was mainly the fact that Sweden was occupied with Russia and other strong countries in the region. As long as it keeps the Sounds open, I don't think it'd be that much of an issue for countries like England, Spain, and France.Sweden would never have been allowed to form "scandinavia" nor would denmark as it conflicted with the major powers interests in keeping the baltic trade open. While it is fun to think "what if" the fact of the matter is that the economy of even both countries combined wasn't enough to come close to the real majors of the day.
Iwanow : Is it possible for me to delete my thread again? Since you guys insist on talking about flags, of all things!
MartinSWE said:The biggest drawback with forming Scandinavia is that you won´t get to play as Sweden anymore
Thats a good argument
BlitzMartinDK said:...In real life, yes...well, maybe..
Actually we had a rather large navy until Nelson took it away. I think of that as the point where forming Scandinavia for Denmark became a rather more remote possibility...
This.
Denmark was a small player after the peace at Roskilde, but it didn't become a non-entity before it lost the fleet to England.
Also, a real Scandinavia was close twice, the Kalmar Union and leading up the the Second Schleswig War.
In newer times Nordek almost happened too, but Finland was not able to commit due to being in the shadow of the Soviet Union.
We may still see a Scandinavia form in the future, if the EU continues its current trend of regionalization (Denmark Norway Sweden cooperating ever more closely to act as one voice).
I believe that the 'Nordic Group' is compromised of D&N&S, along with Finland, Iceland, and the U.K. for that matter.