Let's Create a Community Alternate Scenario

[Dyranum]

I would say that the collapse of the ERE is quite recent. Maybe some 20-30 years before game start. It would've shattered into Epirus, Thracia, Nicaea, Trebizond and Ikonion with the loyalists holding onto Constantinople, parts of east Thrace and a few parts of the western Anatolian coast (like Skutarion (Tur: Üsküdar)). Now, Baghdad would've conquered Trebizond and Ikonion and set up a muslim state there (probably utilising a lull in the fighting with Egypt). This muslim state would have quickly collapsed as most Turks are Orthodox. However, there are muslim Turks as well, in all probability mainly in inland provinces such as Konya. The Caliphate would probably have needed to send troops to prop up Konya against Orthodox rebels and the Orthodox Turkish state breaking off from the Muslim Turkish state. Also probably attempt to crush the Orthodox Turks.

Egypt would have used this opportunity to launch a new war against Baghdad, forcing them to move troops away from Anatolia after securing some sort of cease fire with the Orthodox Turks. The Orthodox Turks would then have gone on to conquer Eastern Thrace and Western Anatolia from the infighting states. I would say that Thracia would've been in possession of all of Thrace at that time. This brings us to game-start.

Something like that. I haven't really come up with the reason for the shattering but it would probably've been the usual thing, i.e. succession and/or attempting to become Emperor. There probably would've been some sort of coalitions at the beginning. Maybe Thracia and Nicaea go together and crush the loyalists, then turn on each other (which with the Baghdad invasion wouldn't be too hard for Thracia), with Epirus a bit busy beating down a few dissidents in Hellas and getting beaten up by Thracia. My idea is that Thracia had the upper hand until the Orthodox Turks came along (something which was totally unexpected).

Though to be honest, the whole set-up with the shattered ERE only came about because a lot of people were for some reason in opposition to the idea of a surviving ERE...but this scenario is cool so I say we keep it anyways.

[EMT0]

I would say that the collapse of the ERE is quite recent. Maybe some 20-30 years before game start. It would've shattered into Epirus, Thracia, Nicaea, Trebizond and Ikonion with the loyalists holding onto Constantinople, parts of east Thrace and a few parts of the western Anatolian coast (like Skutarion (Tur: Üsküdar)). Now, Baghdad would've conquered Trebizond and Ikonion and set up a muslim state there (probably utilising a lull in the fighting with Egypt). This muslim state would have quickly collapsed as most Turks are Orthodox. However, there are muslim Turks as well, in all probability mainly in inland provinces such as Konya. The Caliphate would probably have needed to send troops to prop up Konya against Orthodox rebels and the Orthodox Turkish state breaking off from the Muslim Turkish state. Also probably attempt to crush the Orthodox Turks.

Egypt would have used this opportunity to launch a new war against Baghdad, forcing them to move troops away from Anatolia after securing some sort of cease fire with the Orthodox Turks. The Orthodox Turks would then have gone on to conquer Eastern Thrace and Western Anatolia from the infighting states. I would say that Thracia would've been in possession of all of Thrace at that time. This brings us to game-start.

Something like that. I haven't really come up with the reason for the shattering but it would probably've been the usual thing, i.e. succession and/or attempting to become Emperor. There probably would've been some sort of coalitions at the beginning. Maybe Thracia and Nicaea go together and crush the loyalists, then turn on each other (which with the Baghdad invasion wouldn't be too hard for Thracia), with Epirus a bit busy beating down a few dissidents in Hellas and getting beaten up by Thracia. My idea is that Thracia had the upper hand until the Orthodox Turks came along (something which was totally unexpected).

Though to be honest, the whole set-up with the shattered ERE only came about because a lot of people were for some reason in opposition to the idea of a surviving ERE...but this scenario is cool so I say we keep it anyways.

That and you guys didn't like my Uber-Ottoman scenario, but oh well :'(

This scenario's better anyway. Alright, that gives us some background. I'd say give the Crimeans a +75 relationship with the Konya Turks and leave it at that, IMO.

[Gloa]

Well, the Congo Conference gives the Congo Free State land whether its uncolonized or not, so it should be workable. And I like that idea, if the islands remain uncolonized until the year 18XX, then an independent Aotearoa could arise. We could do the same for Africa, attributing it to prolonged European contact resulting in the formation of centralized states in some areas.

Oh yeah, Congo. I could see African states, maybe some Siberian states (again, rather dispersed tribes or broken fragments of old khanates, developing into a nation if they aren't settled by a certain date), the Ainu, and some Native American states using this method.

That and you guys didn't like my Uber-Ottoman scenario, but oh well :'(

This scenario's better anyway. Alright, that gives us some background. I'd say give the Crimeans a +75 relationship with the Konya Turks and leave it at that, IMO.

[ All our cool ideas come from trying to replace other ideas we didn't all like as much (the Ottomans and the Byzantines got cut into pieces to fight against each other, you guys didn't like my southern based China and thus we got a pirate nation and all sorts of interesting little states around there, America got some cool new additions, the English Civil War happened...). ]

That sounds like a solid plan.

[EMT0]

Oh yeah, Congo. I could see African states, maybe some Siberian states (again, rather dispersed tribes or broken fragments of old khanates, developing into a nation if they aren't settled by a certain date), the Ainu, and some Native American states using this method.

For Native American states, all I can think of are the Sioux and the Pueblo as potential states. In Africa, the list gets a lot bigger, but I'm thinking Ashanti, Mutapa, and maybe Darfur and Kanem-Bornu off the top of my head. As for Siberia, I don't think there are any states that could actually form in what lands in Siberia aren't colonized, and same goes for the Ainu, but I'm thinking that when the Russian Revolution occurs, we could have the Ainu, Sibr, and....some other states, rebel? We could do it based on a trigger that goes off that gives any province that is a core of the revolter state and has a militancy threshold of X will be given to the revolter, with them at war with Russia, Russia having an annex goal while they have a status quo goal, and if the rebels are successful, another event fires delivering all or most of the rebels' cores to the them? This is another one of those ideas that can be implemented into later builds.

[ All our cool ideas come from trying to replace other ideas we didn't all like as much (the Ottomans and the Byzantines got cut into pieces to fight against each other, you guys didn't like my southern based China and thus we got a pirate nation and all sorts of interesting little states around there, America got some cool new additions, the English Civil War happened...). ]

That sounds like a solid plan.

It does seem like it, our best ideas come from compromising. Guess the ideals of this mod do actually work in practice */end bragging*

This will probably be one of the few times I make a request for someone to actually do some modding instead of leaving it an open offer, but Gloa, could you sort out the tags for China, Korea, and Japan? I'm afraid to touch it in fear of it imploding on me.

[Gloa]

For Native American states, all I can think of are the Sioux and the Pueblo as potential states. In Africa, the list gets a lot bigger, but I'm thinking Ashanti, Mutapa, and maybe Darfur and Kanem-Bornu off the top of my head. As for Siberia, I don't think there are any states that could actually form in what lands in Siberia aren't colonized, and same goes for the Ainu, but I'm thinking that when the Russian Revolution occurs, we could have the Ainu, Sibr, and....some other states, rebel? We could do it based on a trigger that goes off that gives any province that is a core of the revolter state and has a militancy threshold of X will be given to the revolter, with them at war with Russia, Russia having an annex goal while they have a status quo goal, and if the rebels are successful, another event fires delivering all or most of the rebels' cores to the them? This is another one of those ideas that can be implemented into later builds.

America:
Sioux, Pueblo, Apache, Navajo, Cree, and some sort of Metis analogue in the North in between the two fur companies (mixed race and culture trappers who get discriminated against by the big national fur companies and may eventually set up their own government if they feel driven out of and trapped by the other countries).

This will probably be one of the few times I make a request for someone to actually do some modding instead of leaving it an open offer, but Gloa, could you sort out the tags for China, Korea, and Japan? I'm afraid to touch it in fear of it imploding on me.

Well, I'm not the best at naming these things, and I'm not exactly sure which tags are already taken, but here's a stab in the dark. Everyone feel more than welcome to criticize and fix up the setup, especially in the Chinese bandit/rebel/pirate states and Japan.

Korea:
KOR: Korea.
MCK: Manchuria, a revolter with their OTL cores from Korea and Russia. Basically, all of non-Korean Korea.

China: Using a variety of levels of Anglicization of the names (which sort of happened in OTL when people reported names back, and with the unofficial status of most of the nations here it would be a bit easier for such irregularities to become popular terminology).

CHI: The Chinese Empire.
YNN: The Kingdom of Dali/Yunnan.
SHU/SXI/...?: The Kingdom of Shu/Sichuan.

Northern Warlords:
SND?SHD?SHN?: Shandong. (the Shandong Peninsula) - while de jure control is in the hands of the governor of Shandong, true control belongs to the rebel armies encamped in the area. Perhaps it would be the Great Northern Kingdom or something.
BEI: Beiping. "Northern Peace" - the Northernmost warlord (dark blue)
XBI: Xibei ("Northwest") - the light green north-west warlord.
HEN: Henan? (the dark green warlord - I'm not sure whether this guy would be, when we finalize the borders, Henan (south of the Yellow River), Hebei (north of the Yellow River), or some combo [perhaps Heguang?])

Central:
ZHN: Zhongguo (alternate name for China, used in reference to the people's state in the middle of China)
GAN: Gan. Named after the Gan river, this yellow state is a warlord substate of Zhongguo (it's part of the rebel army which got entrenched and no longer really needs to listen to every command from up high)

Southern Dudes:
LNG: Liangguang. In reality, this is the pirate state, but the de jure leadership would be the governor of Guangxi, or the governor/viceroy of Liangguang (depends on how this dynasty manages its administrative divisions). Alternate names: Pirate Coast, Canton (the western view, given that the pirates operate out of the city and it's a major trading port when western trade is safe there), Hainan (if that's where the pirates are based), Zheng's Fleet/Cheng's Fleet/some other name's Fleet... (the name if it became a democracy or otherwise cleaned up its piracy mess would be Guangxi, though).
BFA: The Black Flag Army. There was an OTL bandit group with this name, but I suspect that someone would think up of the name here too. These are the pink guys.
GUA: Guandong (under the titular control of the governor of Guandong, but controlled by rebels).

Revolters:
MAY: Maynila, Amanillah, or the Kingdom of Seludong.
TAI: Taiwan.
HUI: Anhui.
FUJ: Fujian.
and several other of the PDM cliques as potential independent kingdoms which can pop up if a semi-unified China breaks apart again

Japan:
JAP: Japan. Either the brown guy in the middle (if we have a Japan where an emperor actually managed to solidify control more, only to have it break apart again later), or a union state for the islands (if we're having it be a different shogunate - in that case, there'd need to be a tag for whichever shogunate we assumed would form the central control of Japan here. TOK, Tokugawa, ASH, Ashikaga...).
SHM: Shimazu (the southern state - in OTL the Shimazu controlled the Satsuma domain and were very powerful and a very long seated family - here, they expand a bit more, either as a rival to the control of all of Japan, or the hegemon of a bunch of smaller rulers which aren't big enough to get tags).
DAT: The Date Clan (another OTL long-in-control and powerful state - plus, they have one of the most awesome crests). Again, they'd perhaps just be the western famous hegemon of a bunch of smaller not-depicted rulers.

- If the Shimazu or the Date westernized, they'd have the opportunity to try to take over all of Japan's lands and try to form Japan themselves after taking the capital.

[Mr. Yellow]

Keep actual Lithuanians as Lithuanians I say. Also, the name "Žemaitija-Aukštaitija" refers to two traditional regions of Lithuanai...which isn't all (well, nowadays they are the only dialectal groupings for some reason) and really, calling someone an Aukštaitija would probably be offensive to the Samogitians and thus not work. Belarusians we could rename "Ruthenian" or maybe "Rusyn" (though "Rus" works as well) since the official name of the G.D. of Lithuania was: Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Rus and Samogitia. The Rus part is in all likelihood in reference to the Kievan Rus.

However, you're a Belarusian (I assume this because of your self-assigned location) so I think you would know better than me on this subject, or?

Although there is also the problem that the Belarusian identity throughout history is rather...sketchy.

The term "Belarusian" was appeared in Russian Empire in XVIII cent., but in Poland-Lithuania term "Lithuanian" (aka литвины) was used. But I'm really don't know how to call OTL Lithuanians.
Maybe, Aukstatians were mostly assimilated by the Slavic (like it was OTL), but Zematians were not. So, we could convert Aukstatian provinces to Lithuanian and leave Zemaitian as they are.

[Dyranum]

The term "Belarusian" was appeared in Russian Empire in XVIII cent., but in Poland-Lithuania term "Lithuanian" (aka литвины) was used. But I'm really don't know how to call OTL Lithuanians.
Maybe, Aukstatians were mostly assimilated by the Slavic (like it was OTL), but Zematians were not. So, we could convert Aukstatian provinces to Lithuanian and leave Zemaitian as they are.

I doubt the actual Lithuanians would've assimilated though. They didn't IOTL. We could call them Lietuvan maybe? Or just use the rather cumbersome term Samogito-Aukštaitian...I say we just go for Lietuvan, it is the only viable generalised name IMO. Aukstatians and Samogitians aren't the same thing, even if Aukstatians were the ones who actually created Lithuania.

EDIT: Have we decided on the name of the MOD yet?

[EMT0]

Right, sorry for the lack of response/progress. My life has been interesting these last two days(being hit by a car at low speeds is a highlight, I'm fine before you ask), but everything's back to normal now, so progress shall resume. For the question about the name, I don't think so. My proposal never really got enough feedback for me to decide 'Yes, this is it' and most other proposals minor support as well. As such, I haven't really decided on a name, but if no other competitors arise, then I'm prepared to go with

At the Gates of Barcelona
The Struggle for the Heart of Abraham and the Rise of the Modern World
An AHD Mod for Victoria 2

[Dyranum]

I have no objections. Also, you talked about wiping cores and all from provinces...that can be easily done with Kinniken's province ownership tool (though only on a per country basis).

[EMT0]

So, contrary to what has probably become popular belief due to my lack of activity, this mod is still as alive as ever. I've just had a really, really addictive V2 game as Russia that experienced really big lag at the end due to having a well managed Russia equaling extreme population growth, which equals lag from hell.

Now that I can focus again, I present you all with a burst of work done due to inspiration. I've done the tags for Africa and Southeast Asia and have started using the utility Dyranum recommended to wipe states of cores.

Africa:

At Start:
SOK - Songhai*Recycled from Sokoto, these guys are TTL's Japan. Expect more countries to be added to Africa in later releases so as to make Songhai interesting.
ETH - Ethiopia*Now with neighbors other than Egypt!
ZAN - Zanzibar*I pity the poor fool who tries to play them though
MAD - Madagascar*Original, I know
ZUL - Zulu*We need these guys around...why, I don't know though. Probably to troll Venice.
NUB - Nubia*I can already see the AARs full of noob jokes; these guys are independent because Egypt basically let them live in favor of beating Baghdad over the head
MOG - Knights of St. John, these guys are based off of Mogadishu, hence the tag name, and are also liable to make Zanzibar cry, every single game. Their capital will move via event to Goa if Mogadishu is occupied.
(MORE TO BE ADDED TO THE LIST/MAP*at some point*)

Revolters:
SOM - Somalia*From MOG if the capital isn't located in Mogadishu any longer
SAF - (Insert Danish name for Cape Town here)* this will serve as the revolter state for Danish South Africa
NAL - (Insert Burgundian French for South Africa, Afrique du Sud? Nouveau Burgougne? Cap de l'Est?)* The Burgundian South Africa state

Arise Via Event:
MUT - Mutapa
KON - Kongo
ASH - Ashanti
DAR - Darfur
(More to be decided? Note that these countries will only be added in later releases)

Notes: Africa is a work in progress

Southeast Asia:

At Start:
BUR -Taungu Empire*Let's assume that the First Taungu Empire held, but that Siam was always unstable and some of the eastern parts of the empire broke off into an again-independent rump Siamese state and Luang Prabang. Looking at the Wikipedia article, it appears that Burma had male literacy approaching 50% and 4% for females during the early 1800s and dedicated a lot of attention to literary works and the expansion of Burmese culture, so they'll have a relatively decent prestige and good literacy rates.
CAM - Khmer*The remnants of the once great Khmer Empire, they get no cores to start with outside their borders, but may eventually get a 'Declare the reestablishment of the Khmer Empire' decision that gives cores on areas with notable Khmer presence.
SIA - Siam*The remnants of Ayyuthaya fled eastwards away from Burmese control and eventually rebelled, establishing a newly independent Siamese kingdom.
LUA - Luang Prabang rump state, if I knew a bit more about Southeast Asian history, I'd have a sarcastic comment about being a filler state as a joke, but meh, I don't. Has cores on all of Luang Prabang
DAI - Dai Viet, gets no cores outside its current lands, but also gets an assimilation bonus on the Champa culture; but so do the Khmer
JOH - Malacca*Big, with precious metals, and has cores on Burgundian Sumatra. One of your best bets to form Nusantara other than Java

Revolters:
ARK - Arakan
CHM - Champa
ATJ - Atjeh
DEM - Demak*Cores on Southern Sumatra, and Western Java
SUK - Sukothai*Cores in Northern Thailand
RCH - Ratchaburi*Cores on Southern Thailand
SHN - Shan*Cores in Eastern Burma and the far north of Thailand

Unions:
THY- Muang Thai*This is the Thai cultural union state

Notes: This is all based on what an hour of reading into Southeast Asian history on Wikipedia gave me, so don't judge too harshly if I'm way off target here.

[Dyranum]

So, could we get together a list of all the tags? Or is there one and I've just missed?
Also, been working on cleaning up the map right now. Will post that version later.

[EMT0]

There is a link to a post with all the tags on the first page. I really do need to find a way to edit the title of this thread; I can't actually change it, so I suppose PMing a mod would be the best way to go about it?

Also, thanks a lot Dyranum , for handling that, now it's your turn to get praise from me as well. You are probably where a plurality, or possibly even a majority of all of the ideas for this mod seem to come from. Examples of note would be the Jagellions, the Byzantines, having Burgundy live, a buffed up Two Sicilies, the whole Middle East, and a good part in the destruction of the United Kingdoms. That's a big, big list.

[Dyranum]

I'm flattered.

Anyways, here's the map: Link
Still a bit unsure if we ever decided what borders the Songhai were supposed to have.

Also, as for revolters in Russia, we've got Manchuria, Novgorod, Moscow, the American colonies, some siberian states, and well, what more?
Though to the tag list for Scandinavia/Baltics, you should add Ingria (tag, ING?) too.

[EMT0]

Alright, so in an urge to finish off more tags, here is Indonesia, Oceania, and South America:

Indonesia:

At Start:
JAV - Java
BAL - Bali*These guys will get some love in this mod, eventually. I'm thinking proclamation of the resurrected Majapahit Empire? They have cores on some of Dutch Bali
CLB - Celebes
BRU - Brunei*Has cores on the two northernmost provinces of Breton Borneo
SUL - Sulu*In exile, because they've lost Sulu proper to the Chinese pirate states
MGN - Maguindanao*The state in the Southern Philippines
JOH - Malacca*Technically, not a part of Indonesia, but culturally, it may as well be.

Revolters:
BNJ - Banjar*Has cores on all of Dutch and Burgundian Borneo, and the southernmost province in Breton Borneo
PLB - Palembang*Has cores on Burgundian Sumatra and part of Malaccan Sumatra
ATJ - Atjeh*Cores on Northern Sumatra
DEM - Demak*Cores on Western Java
TRN - Ternate*Cores on the Moluccas
AMB - Ambeno*Cores on Timor
PLW - Palawan*This should be obvious
NSR - Srivijaya*Based in Visayas, these guys are essentially what happens when you take origin myths, and burn it into the minds of your youth so much that it becomes a reality. A Hindu revolter state in Visayas made up from people who believe themselves to be descended from people migrating from the collapsing Srivijaya and Majapahit Empires. They use the name Srivijaya due to nationalism. Read up on Wikipedia about Visayas, so do not sue me for this one, blame the Wiki.
PAP - Papua*Cores on all of Papua(Gains cores only after a certain date has passed to signify that the islands have developed to the point where they have established a Papuan nationality)

Unions:
MAJ - Majapahit*Bali-only, it's essentially a Hindu Indonesia that will serve to say, nyah nyah, I'm a badass. It will require Bali to annex the whole island of Java and either own directly, or have puppetized, the owners of all the provinces in Sumatra
NSN- Nusantra*Same as the above, but it's available to all of the other Malay states

Notes: the Malay states will actually be fun to play in this mod, so expect more details added to them later, far later on. Srivijaya will also get a decision that will effectively change its name to the Empire of Srivijaya and give prestige and cores(If they own Palembang, that is), but not an actual tag switch.

Oceania and the Pacific:

At Start:
Hawaii

Revolters:
DNZ - (Insert Name Here for Dutch New Zealand)*This is the revolter state for a Dutch Kiwi state
NVS - Nuevo Visayas*Name for the Léonese revolter state in Australia
NAW - Nieuw Antwerpen*Name for the Dutch revolter in Australia
AUS - Australie*Name for Burgundian Australian revolter(will only gain cores should Burgundy colonize Australia)

Arise from Uncolonized Territory:
AOT - Aotearoa*If New Zealand isn't fully settled by the date XXXX, then Aotearoa will gain independence and have control over any uncolonized provinces in New Zealand.

Notes: This area was actually easier than I thought it would be. Good thing too, I was near dreading doing this.

South America:

INK - Al-Tahuantinsuya*I decided to save PEU and other colonial tags for revolter states. We're going to need em. I've decided to have them start out as civilized, if only so as to have them get immigrants(which goes with our backstory).
GFI - Grande Fiume*The Tuscan revolter in Argentina with cores on the rest of Tuscan South America
MNI - Monai*The state in Gran Chaco named after the Guarani god of open fields
PRA - Parana*The white-cream Guarani state, Parana means ocean in Guarani, apparently
GUA - Guambarate*The green Guarani state
KAG - Ka'aguy*The purple Guarani state

Revolters:
PMP - Pampas*Revolter in southern Incan Argentina(to be implemented later). Pampas means plains in Quechua
QUI - Quito*Revolter in Ecuador+Incan Colombia, mainly a political revolter rather than cultural
TRI - Tripolitania*The Hafsid revolter in the New World
NAO - Su Naoned*Breton revolter state in South America
NRO - Roma Ovesta*Neapolitan revolter state in South America
COR - New Cordoba*Revolter state for all of Moorish South America, but based in the western half
AND - New Andalucia*Revolter in the eastern half of Moorish South America

Notes: I spent WAAAAY too much time doing some investigating for the Guarani states. Next on my list is Mesoamerica.

Side note: After reading about the reason behind the naming of Buenos Aires(Fair Winds), any Aragonese colony could be renamed Buenos Aires.

[Gloa]

Japan:
AIN - Ainu.
Almost forgot about them, but these could give a good distraction for the Date in Japan (they'd have cores in Hokkaido and Sakhalin) with a greater possibility of rebellion than in OTL (since Date doesn't have the support of the Shogunate and friends to help keep them in line all the time).

Central Asia:
KHO(?) - The Khoshuud Khanate, in Gansu (the south of the Mongol Empire, a more Tibetan cultured Mongolian breakaway).
ZNG - The Zunghar Khanate, roughly in OTL Xinjiang. (/Dzungar Khanate). There's of course also the option of UYG, Uigherstan.

- That should break up Mongolia enough, I think. All that region is pretty sparsely populated.
- Maybe have instead of Chaghatai a kind of Moghulistan

Russia:
I'd add to previous suggestions...
SIB - The Sibr Khanate
KAM - Kamchatka

- The NNM setup for Russian breakaways could probably be mostly used, with a couple re-localizations. Not too much is changed there.

North America (based heavily off of HelloGoodSir's ideas a few pages back):
VIN - Vinland.
This one's easy. Danish America + Greenland.

CHE - Cherokee.
Hybrid only partially westernized Christian state based off the Cherokee and various mixed races that settle in the area (the magenta Appalachian state).

IRI - Iroquois. (or we give it the tag IRQ and leave MES or something for a Mesopotamian state)
The light green state. At war with Canada.

CAN - Canada. The great big yellow democracy.

NEW - New ____
The state along the Mississippi where New Orleans would be OTL.

- Maybe split Russian NA at Vancouver Island. The main nation would be the southern part (because eventually those regions would simply gain a lot more population due to being a better climate - although at the beginning they'd start out lower in Russian population), but another breakaway could happen in the north.
- I imagine in later game breakaways or revolutions especially, the double gold rush regions would play a large part in the culture of the state (maybe referenced directly in the fascist and communist state names).
- Maybe have a way for Kamchatka to claim Alaska, or vice versa, if they have rebelled.
- NAV/Navajo, APC/Apache, PUE/Pueblo, DAK/Dakota, SIO/Sioux, CRE/Cree? (for nations which would potentially appear by event during explorations and cultural interchanges in America)
- Maybe two Metis analogues - one each for Russia and Denmark (either as nations that can rise up by event, or just revolters from the two regions - mixed race traders who feel discriminated against by the ruling company authorities). Maybe even one of the two main Russian revolters would be this (one revolter would be more of a purebred colonial Russian independence movement influenced by liberal ideas and their freedoms far from government control - the other would be more culturally different, influenced by new liberal ideas and their older traditions, trying to form a new state for their culture).

EDIT:

Oceania and the Pacific:

At Start:
Hawaii

Revolters:
DNZ - (Insert Name Here for Dutch New Zealand)*This is the revolter state for a Dutch Kiwi state
NVS - Nuevo Visayas*Name for the Léonese revolter state in Australia
NAW - Nieuw Antwerpen*Name for the Dutch revolter in Australia
AUS - Australie*Name for Burgundian Australian revolter(will only gain cores should Burgundy colonize Australia)

I'd recommend PHI - Philippines for Nuevo Visayas. We're likely to have at least some Leonese king whose name is Philip (and nobody in the Australian regions would have come from Visayas [and according to some etymologies, it comes from the word "slave" because the Visayas was a region where slave traders got their wares, so I doubt people would be that keen on calling themselves the new version of it :P]).

Hmm, what about New Zeeland? (although that's Burgundian in this timeline, isn't it? darn)

[EMT0]

Wow, today was productive O_O

I'll do the integrating of these tags into the tag list tomorrow as well as the map onto the front page, or possibly later. ATM, I've got some homework to get done, but this is awesome for sure. I'd say that Songhai's borders are fine until someone with a bit more knowledge on Africa knocks us over the head and tells us why we're all wrong. As for Russia, Sibir, Kamchatka, Muscovy, Ingria, and Novgorod will be added. I'm thinking that when we eventually give some dedication to the Russian Civil War, we can have Muscovy and Novgorod serve as ideological factions hellbent on reuniting Russia under their wing. They also conveniently serve as revolters for dissatisfied Russians. I'll address the Russian colonies sometime tomorrow.

As for Chagatai/Moghulistan, I think we're using Chagatai so as to not mix it up with the Mughal Empire. Will add the Zungar and Khoshuud Khanates though, and Ainu. I'll address the rest of your post tomorrow; my brain is probably bleeding internally after having done a bit of Wikipedia researching on Southeast Asia and the Guarani for the last 2 and a half hours. But as soon as I can stomach more, I'll look over that.

[Dyranum]

For a revolter in Xinjiang, we could just use the already existant tag (i.e. XIN).

As for a Russian colonial revolter: I say we keep it all as one. The southerners would probably see Alaska et al as theirs anyway and only Russia would really care.

Also, we could remake the spelling for Canada to Canata just because. It comes from the word "Kanata" and means "village" (I think). I don't know where the corruption with the "d" came from though. Maybe the Yanks?

EDIT: Also, @Gloa: There is no independent state along the Mississippi and New Orleans. That is a Burgundian colony.

[Alpha Zeke]

Just chiming in, I've been following this for a while and it seems great. I believe the corruption of the d came right away when whatever explorer it was (Lawrence?) in Canada brought his findings back to Europe, mapmakers (I believe in Germany) used Canada. This is all off of somethign I remember reading a few months back though while doing research to create some revolter states for eu3.

[Mr. Yellow]

Some words about Russian revolters:
If revolt states are based on Russian population, there couldn't be any khanates, hords etc. Siberia can become an independent state, but Camchatka's population is too small. Maybe, there could be state of "Slavorussia" including Far East and Alaska.
If revolt states are based on local population... Urgh. I can't clearly imagine the state based on the locals - Siberia was a Russian colony. But, anyway, the name "Kamchatka" is too Russian.

[EMT0]

Some words about Russian revolters:
If revolt states are based on Russian population, there couldn't be any khanates, hords etc. Siberia can become an independent state, but Camchatka's population is too small. Maybe, there could be state of "Slavorussia" including Far East and Alaska.
If revolt states are based on local population... Urgh. I can't clearly imagine the state based on the locals - Siberia was a Russian colony. But, anyway, the name "Kamchatka" is too Russian.

That's a valid point. Who actually were the locals in the Russian Far East, would you say? I agree that Kamchatka's population would be too small, even in this scenario. The locals really couldn't outbreed the Russians enough so as to become even a plurality or a large minority IOTL, and ITTL especially. Maybe a name that's derived from a Russian word referencing the East?

As for Xinjiang, agreed, and we'll call Canada Canata, or Canatia, or something similar to that.