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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrael_1492 View Post
    I vote Aye to the Lend-Lease Act, and I also approve of the new draft and mobilization laws. I believe by now it is clear what monster Hitler has become, and so we have to act now. Let us join the Allies.

    - Senator Charles Beckendorf, D-MA
    Good day senator. I would ask that you reconsider your position on lend lease. Why would we ask the American tax payer to support and subsidize communist Russia? I say the NAY, NAY and once again NAY! Communism is antithetical to our capitalist society. Asking the American taxpayer to subsidize communism is a betrayal of the worst kind. Our founding fathers would roll over in their graves. While I have breath in my body, such a measure will not be unopposed.
    Richard Newman (R) Georgia.
    "If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

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    It is time America.Time to fight those oppresors and defend Democracy. Axis has grown too strong and we must contain them.It is time to strike.FOR AMERICA FOR DEMOCRACY FOR FREEDOM!

    Aye on Lent-Lease as we need to help other nations survive the Axis combine.I approve the new draft and mobilisation laws as they boost the preparation and Join the Allies

    It is time to unite Americans.We don't mind each other's ideology neither class.Everyone,Capitalists,Workers,Soldiers,Farmer s,Labourers,Traders,Officers,Senators.Evryone unite and fight the German Steel!

    Senator John Sarigis(I leader-SC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greek HOI3 View Post
    It is time America.Time to fight those oppresors and defend Democracy. Axis has grown too strong and we must contain them.It is time to strike.FOR AMERICA FOR DEMOCRACY FOR FREEDOM!

    Aye on Lent-Lease as we need to help other nations survive the Axis combine.I approve the new draft and mobilisation laws as they boost the preparation and Join the Allies

    It is time to unite Americans.We don't mind each other's ideology neither class.Everyone,Capitalists,Workers,Soldiers,Farmer s,Labourers,Traders,Officers,Senators.Evryone unite and fight the German Steel!

    Senator John Sarigis(I leader-SC)

    ((My senator is piseed off because he is half greek and the Germans conquered his homeland))
    You cry for FREEDOM, yet you propose to subsidize the communists? How can you hold such thoughts in your head? Let the fascists kill the communists and the communists kill the fascists while we help the rest of the world remain free from both tyrannical governments. Please reconsider and vote NAY on lend lease.
    "If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

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  4. #964
    Quote Originally Posted by son of liberty View Post
    You cry for FREEDOM, yet you propose to subsidize the communists? How can you hold such thoughts in your head? Let the fascists kill the communists and the communists kill the fascists while we help the rest of the world remain free from both tyrannical governments. Please reconsider and vote NAY on lend lease.
    Nyet,I won't change my mind.Commies will be on the act BUT the help will be only 6 million.ONLY.I promise

    ((Avidian can you make Lend-lease to be without communists?))

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    Lend-Lease
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    son of liberty, yes, you'd technically be Speaker of the House. Congratulations!

    Greek HOI3, if you want to propose an amended version of Lend-Lease that does not include the Soviets, I can mod that pretty easily.

    Vrael_1492, current Pacific Theater Commander is Sommervel. I'm happy to move people around if you really want somebody else. Which reminds, Tom, current Atlantic Theater Commander is actually Stillwell. Did you want me to put MacArthur there? From an RP perspective, it doesn't matter, but from a gameplay one it might. Maybe we'll wait until we see what Chimina wants to do with Army OOB.
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    I would not ask the American taxpayer to give 6 cents to our arch enemies. I assure you that lend lease will be filibustered if necessary to keep American taxpayers from subsidizing our worst enemies.
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    I vote Nay on Lend-Lease if it applies to the Comintern, we cannot be seen taking sides with the Commies. I vote to repeal the New Draft and Mobilization Laws the former President and his administration had no right to pass said acts without the Senates approval. On the matter of joining a side in this war, I vote None we should not embroil ourselves in the affairs of Europe, the war in Europe was always going to happen as long as traditional German territory was in foreign hands.

    Senator Peter Dawson, MD
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSS Hunley View Post
    I vote Nay on Lend-Lease if it only applies to the Allies, we cannot be seen taking sides. I vote to repeal the New Draft and Mobilization Laws the former President and his administration had no right to pass said acts without the Senates approval. On the matter of joining a side in this war, I vote None we should not embroil ourselves in the affairs of Europe, the war in Europe was always going to happen as long as traditional German territory was in foreign hands.

    Senator Peter Dawson, MD
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    1. Aye or Nay on Lend-Lease. AYE
    2. Approve or Repeal the new draft and mobilization laws. APPROVE
    3. Faction to join: Allies, Axis, Comintern, or None. ALLIES

    - Senator Elexis Sinclaire

  10. #970
    I vote Nay for the Lend-Lease Act, as I cannot support any bill that aids the godless, totalitarian Soviet Union, though I might be willing to support a similar bill that does not aid the Communists.

    I also vote to Approve Roosevelt's mobilization and draft laws, and once again vote to join the Allies.

    - Senator Stephen McCarthy (D-TX)

    Quote Originally Posted by Greek HOI3 View Post
    Lastly, General MacArthur,I had the intrest on being on your position and I also proposed the spliting of the Command.So I will be one of those officers you want.Feel free to send me a letter about my position for now.

    Senator John Sarigis(I leader-SC)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avindian View Post
    Which reminds, Tom, current Atlantic Theater Commander is actually Stillwell. Did you want me to put MacArthur there? From an RP perspective, it doesn't matter, but from a gameplay one it might. Maybe we'll wait until we see what Chimina wants to do with Army OOB.
    ((Yeah, I'd like to put MacArthur there, and move Stillwell to one of the Army Groups assigned to Atlantic Theater HQ.))
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  11. #971
    I approve the law changes made by the President, war is inevitable and a war declaration must be delivered to Germany as soon as possible. Hitler opresses the people and my fellow Socialists in Germany. If we wait, free nations will suffer more and more.
    I also cannot see why you wish to exclude the Soviet Union. While i do diapprove the Methods Stalin used, i do say we will have a common enemy, if we dont fight together with the Soviets, Germany will be unattackable - Their beaches will be so highly guarded that every attempt would be futile.
    Yes to Lend Lease - Yes to giving the Soviets the Option to take it, if neccessary.
    You may say, that i am a sympathist of the Soviet Government, no , a Totalitarian state, stalin-style is not my goal, but for all of you, who want to bring capitalism back to Russia, why not give them some of our Capital, so they see how superior your Capital - isn truly is.

    According to the Allies Decisions i cannot agree to Joining the Allies, i don't agree to none of the Alliances, but i would support a Declaration of War, as quick ad possible.
    Stop Germany - Stop the Axis
    But this time, lets not get ourselves fooked into another Peace, dictated by the Uk and France, ignoring us.
    Say no to the Allies - say no to another Armistice for 15 years.

    - Senator Franz Vormüller (Independent - WA)

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    The time has come Senators, we must stand up and defend democracy in the world! Although I do not like the idea of aiding the communists, a fascist Europe is even worse. So I vote Aye on the Lend-Lease act. I also Approve of the new laws and vote for joining the Allies as soon as possible!

    Let us not wait any longer!

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    1. Aye or Nay on Lend-Lease. AYE
    2. Approve or Repeal the new draft and mobilization laws. Approve
    3. Faction to join: Allies, Axis, Comintern, or None. Allies
    4. If anybody objects to a specific cabinet member, say so and we'll hold "hearings"; otherwise, I will treat them as confirmed. OK
    5. The normal budget stuff for 1941. Sure.

    I also weep for the fall of the left-side of American politics to the isolationist right-wing ideology that is the Republican Party.

    - Senator Mary Philipps, D-CA

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    (Hey, I'm voting to join the Allies and I'm a Republican. >.>)

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    Greek HOI3, if you want to propose an amended version of Lend-Lease that does not include the Soviets, I can mod that pretty easily.
    ((I didn't know that was an option))

    Senators, regarding the proposed lend lease program: I propose we offer lend lease only to our fellow democracies. Communist and totalitarianistic governments would not be given any taxpayer money. How can we consider fighting one dictator while supporting another? Are we hypocrites?

    As a concession to ensure we fund no petty dictators, I am willing to reconsider my position on joining the allies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by son of liberty View Post
    ((I didn't know that was an option))

    Senators, regarding the proposed lend lease program: I propose we offer lend lease only to our fellow democracies. Communist and totalitarianistic governments would not be given any taxpayer money. How can we consider fighting one dictator while supporting another? Are we hypocrites?

    As a concession to ensure we fund no petty dictators, I am willing to reconsider my position on joining the allies.
    Senator Newman
    I find myself agreeing with you on the matter of support for the communists, they are a greater threat to our security than Nazi German could ever be, Bolsheviks are insidious creatures bent on the destruction of the American way of life. I will consider changing my position on Lend-Lease if the Soviet Union receives nothing from the United States of America.
    I would also like to offer my congratulations to the Republican Party and our new President Wilkie for winning the elections, may you bring order and safety to the American people.

    On another matter all together, with the recent unprovoked German aggression in the Balkans and in Norway, I now believe that Germany must be told that no more aggressive attacks will be tolerated, I propose that we guarantee the independence of the following countries in order to show our resolve for peace:
    Sweden
    Turkey
    Persia
    Portugal
    I firmly believe that Herr Hitler will see this as a statement of our resolve and think carefully on his future prospects, perhaps we can even convince him to come to the peace table and negotiate an honourable peace.

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    Hmmm, Mr. President, may I make an amendment to the Lend-Lease Bill that only sends aid to Britain, France, and Nationalist China? An aid of mine just noticed that the Soviets would benefit from this legislation, and I won't support that. Unless this amendment is accepted, I must change my vote to Nay on the Lend-Lease Act.

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    I will accept anything which will hinder the total domination of the German menace, even if that means paying the Soviets. I do believe that they are a despisable regime, however the Germans deserve all opposition they can have since, in my opinion, they deserve all seven hells. I do not expect others to believe the same as me, and I will respect their views on this, but I will not change!

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    In response to the current questions laid before Congress by our new President, I present my answers;

    AYE to Lend-Lease,
    Approve to the draft and mobilization,
    ALLIES as the faction to join.

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    General MacArthur I choose General Devers to be my general

    Senator Newman I support your filibuster

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