Idea for the community: Passing on savegames

Darrigan · Dec 26, 2011

Hi there!

Recently this idea popped into my head. Why don't we have multiple people play a single campaign? And by that I don't mean online campaigns.
No, the idea is that someone starts a campaign with a certain character, but when the character dies, the player saves the game and sends it to someone else, who would then continue the game with the heir/new king. When that character dies, he sends that savegame to yet another player.

This way a new king also means a new real person. Players would really inherit a situation over which they did not have any influence.

I was wondering if the community is interested in something like this. Let me know

UPDATE:

Release is getting closer, so time to dig this thread up again and get it going.

I'm looking for 6 players (+ me = 7). I'd also like their prefered starting character.

I personally am not so fond of Byzantium...

Player-pool so far:

* Darrigan: Anything, preferably a non-Byzantine character
* Archam: Navarra
* Furga: No preference
* Olvirki: A Breton, Welsh, Irish, Scottish, Norwegian, Swedish or an Anglo-Saxon character
* TMA_Cool: Anything. Preferably something close to Muslim-held regions.
* Valiant_Hogers: Something reconquista-ish
* xcrissxcrossx: Anything

Back-up players:

* The Miracle
* laremi
* Valvinar

Please note that the player-pool is full. You can still apply, but you will be added to the back-up list.

Willem IV · Dec 26, 2011

I'm not sure if it works, but it sounds like a nice idea.

PreXident · Dec 26, 2011

Sounds interesting, but maybe the next player could participate before the death of the old ruler if the heir gets a landed (non-baron) title.

Willem IV · Dec 26, 2011

I'm willing to participe within a groud of max three or four players. It would be easier to play this way then multiplayer, as everyone can play when time fits him.

A briefing on plans between Ruler and heir will be needed to explain the plans the ruler is working on.

Xain · Dec 26, 2011

Willem IV said:
I'm willing to participe within a groud of max three or four players. It would be easier to play this way then multiplayer, as everyone can play when time fits him.

A briefing on plans between Ruler and heir will be needed to explain the plans the ruler is working on.

I agree, it would be nice but for no more than 5 players !
And with random "shuffle" rotation, so you won't always play after the same person (and it could happen that you play twice as well) !

Willem IV · Dec 26, 2011

five people sounds a lot to me, but we have to try out. A shuffle rotation wouldn't be great as you can been left out for too long and losing interest.

Willem IV · Dec 26, 2011

Just a great idea popped in my head. what about this:

We keep tracked on the days you have ruled, and the one with the lowest number of days will be the heir. This means that if your character dies within a few years you will be the heir very soon, and if your character lives a 60 years, it will take some time, to become heir again. This way everyone gets the 'same'' amount of playtime, and not the same person after you. (of course not playing twice in a row).

Darrigan · Dec 26, 2011

Willem IV said:
I'm not sure if it works, but it sounds like a nice idea.

Why wouldn't it work? just save the game and send the savefile to another player

PreXident said:
Sounds interesting, but maybe the next player could participate before the death of the old ruler if the heir gets a landed (non-baron) title.

But then you'll have to play online, which leads to the eternal problem of 'who can play when?' It could be done if all players agree on it, though

Willem IV said:
Just a great idea popped in my head. what about this:

We keep tracked on the days you have ruled, and the one with the lowest number of days will be the heir. This means that if your character dies within a few years you will be the heir very soon, and if your character lives a 60 years, it will take some time, to become heir again. This way everyone gets the 'same'' amount of playtime, and not the same person after you. (of course not playing twice in a row).

Good idea, but then if 4 players each ruled for 30 years, and the fifth one dies after one year, he gets to play again? When if that second king dies within a year as well. Does he get to play once again? I don't really like the idea of playing twice in a row. The whole point is to let a new ruler be controled by another player, so that it actually is a different person, with a different personality and attitude.

olvirki · Dec 26, 2011

This sounds fun. I would maybe be interested. As some have already stated, a nice idea and easier than normal multiplayer.

Aether911 · Dec 26, 2011

That's a great idea, of course it's a little unfair to those who will rule only one or two year, but that's the game ! And pass to MP if the king decide to "introduce the heir" would be fun !

Willem IV · Dec 26, 2011

Darrigan said:
Good idea, but then if 4 players each ruled for 30 years, and the fifth one dies after one year, he gets to play again? When if that second king dies within a year as well. Does he get to play once again? I don't really like the idea of playing twice in a row. The whole point is to let a new ruler be controled by another player, so that it actually is a different person, with a different personality and attitude.

no, it would be player A (28 year), player B (31y), player C (30y), player D (1y), player A (16 + 28 = 44y), player D (1 + 1 = 2y), player C (30 + 30 = 60y), player D (16 + 2 = 18y) and then player B again.

In this setup player C plays 3 times, and the order isn't the same. And everybody gets enough time to play

olvirki · Dec 26, 2011

Aether911 said:
That's a great idea, of course it's a little unfair to those who will rule only one or two year, but that's the game ! And pass to MP if the king decide to "introduce the heir" would be fun !

But if the ruler (player A) gives lands to his heir (player B) and the heir dies before the ruler does player C play the if the ruler gives land to his heir or if the ruler dies ?

And btw, another fun game mode would be to have a gavelkind realm, f.e. a duchy in Wales. If player A dies and he was not able to form a kingdom and chance the succession laws the duchy is split between between his 3 sons (since the ruler I imagined had 3 sons) and players B, C and D each take over one part of the duchy. It would be fun for those 3 players to fight among each other for the control of the duchy. And of course it is likely someone would eventually manage to become a king and chance the succession to a law that does not split the lands between the heirs.

Crushric · Dec 26, 2011

Well this definetly sounds like a fun idea; Tis something that sounds like I'd want to do. So if this ever comes to fruition I'd love to have a shot at it.
Oh! And can we turn this into an AAR? So that each "Chapter" is written by that player therefore the writting style changes just for fun.
Thats my 2 cents.

Premu · Dec 26, 2011

I believe there was an AAR for EU III in which each player just played until the current monarch died. You don't even have to rotate if you find enough people. You can even recruit new participants after the AAR has started, as long as you have a waiting list with enough players on it.

Xain · Dec 26, 2011

Premu said:
I believe there was an AAR for EU III in which each player just played until the current monarch died. You don't even have to rotate if you find enough people. You can even recruit new participants after the AAR has started, as long as you have a waiting list with enough players on it.

Yes, but if there's too many people, it would be impossible to get into the feeling, and fully appreciate the game. By playing only once, you will have much less fun. And it would be really unfair if your ruler dies young. Besides, that would leave a lot of space to trolls, while it would be much more interesting if people could think in perspective, even if they won't entirely have control of what's happening !

Arizal · Dec 27, 2011

I would really like to take command of a character and play for him. Some (not me) would even be sneaky and turn some characters into something else. That seems like a very good idea idea for CKII indeed.

Callendor · Dec 27, 2011

Sounds great! I would play such a game.

Willem IV said:
Just a great idea popped in my head. what about this:

We keep tracked on the days you have ruled, and the one with the lowest number of days will be the heir. This means that if your character dies within a few years you will be the heir very soon, and if your character lives a 60 years, it will take some time, to become heir again. This way everyone gets the 'same'' amount of playtime, and not the same person after you. (of course not playing twice in a row).

Also this.

Duke of Bavaria · Dec 28, 2011

As already said it has been done before in EUIII (I think with the Papal States and there was an AAR). it seemed to work quite good, so would surely be worth a try in CK too.

Veldmaarschalk · Dec 28, 2011

Duke of Bavaria said:
As already said it has been done before in EUIII (I think with the Papal States and there was an AAR). it seemed to work quite good, so would surely be worth a try in CK too.

It has also been done for CK1, also as the Papal States.

Xain · Dec 28, 2011

Veldmaarschalk said:
It has also been done for CK1, also as the Papal States.

Kewl, as the youngsters say. I want to be in this time !

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