What exactly is Sverige? It's on the map in 1356, and I find it confusing because, being proficient in Swedish I read it as Sweden.
What exactly is Sverige? It's on the map in 1356, and I find it confusing because, being proficient in Swedish I read it as Sweden.
It's one half of a Swedish succession war. It's confusing, but apparently that's the only way to do it. If 'Sverige' wins, they tag-switch to Sweden.
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Like Lancaster and York?Originally Posted by Sjiveru
That makes sense, though it's rather jarring.
EDIT: Out of curiosity, why isn't England split into York and Lancaster during the Wars of the Roses? The country files seem to be there. Is this unfinished?
York and Lancaster can revolt away even in Vanilla DW. It's very rare and difficult to force though.
I noticed it wasn't in the history for vanilla DW either after spotting it in MEIOU. I'll make a thread about the subject for vanilla, and then make a thread about it for MEIOU later.
Make mods? If your mod includes more provinces in the British Isles, especially in Wales, Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, I'd love to try it.
What do you mean? They are right there in the history folder for DW: LAN and YOR.
He probably doesn't mean they're not in the history folder, but rather that they don't appear on the map if you browse the starting dates, even though they should, since they historically did.
She, and that is exactly what I mean.
Make mods? If your mod includes more provinces in the British Isles, especially in Wales, Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, I'd love to try it.
Ah, well I can't really say but if I had to guess, it would be for balance issues. If you wanted to pummel England you could do it in those years when they are divided.
Or perhaps it was not considered at all, who's to say?
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Well, given somebody took the time to design these particular two tags, I'm inclined to think it was at least a little bit considered.
Maybe they dropped the idea half-way through, for balance, lack of time or whatever reasons, but I think they initially wanted to somehow have a go a the war of the roses.
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I've been thinking about a scenario for the War of the Roses, using the two tags, indeed. Lack of time and the wish of having a working Hundred Years' War scenario operationnal have caused this delay.
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I'm not actually sure if separate York and Lancaster tags would be appropriate for the WotR; AFAIK it was more a period of dynastic political manoeuvring with intermittent engagements (St. Albans, Tewkebury etc) rather than a full-blown civil war as was the case in the English Civil War.
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Why not use pretender rebels instead of Sverige? It's only there the first one or two years, I don't think this justifies a whole tag.
Using pretender rebels, as it is, doesn't allow for Denmark to intervene as they historically did. This will also make Sweden holding its end of the bargain tougher.
I can try to make something to work around it. But i'll need time, as there is a long list of things i need to work on first.
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I'm working on a War of the Roses scenario using those tags for my own mod but really, pretender rebels make more sense for how the war historically played out. Its just that the pretender rebel mechanic is kind of poor. One stack of units is never going to take over a multi-province country unless someone lets it.
If I'm not mistaken, the pretender rebels need only take one province before an event can fire making more pop up.
But still, pretender rebels are most damaging when a country is at its weakest, having lost all their army and money from war.
Well, given what i know of the War of the Roses, i was indeed thinking that pretender rebels could do the trick.
However, when you feel like it, could i see your code, please ? (you could send it by PM or mail)
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If you are switching the rebels to pretenders, change the ones in Skane as danish patriots so they might actually switch back to Denmark. Maybe have it in the history that they seized the provinces a year or so previous.
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Except that, in truth they were pretender rebels, not patriots. And in another thread, some are criticising me for chosing gameplay over historical accuracy
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I started a thread in the main forum about my war of the rose stuff so you can find most of my code in there.
If you want Denmark to be able to intervene in a rebellion couldn't you just add an event that gave Denmark the option of paying some money to spawn more rebels in Sweden? Not that they can't so that anyway with spies but it would give the AI some incouragement.
If fact you could do that for any country, since that sort of thing happened a lot, with Ireland, Burgundy and France backing a lot of English pretenders. Its kind of already in the game with a standard event (event 5091 support for dissidents abroad) you can get but adding an extra one that's more direct could make sense.
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