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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDude View Post
    First, even if they make the wrong choice of factory, it will still help the economy, as I have pointed out. Second, if you don't think yourself capable of making rational decisions you shouldn't be running for President. Third, I think the 18% unemployed in Santiago would disagree with you that these factories and jobs are unneeded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MastahCheef117 View Post
    "Leave the factory building to those who know how to do it. Politicians should stick to what they do best, which is to decide the future of the country. The government has no right to intervene in the economy."

    ~ Daniel Palomino
    So the government should let people starve on the streets if the market wills it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDude View Post
    So the government should let people starve on the streets if the market wills it?
    "Putting words in my mouth will not help your argument, Senor.

    And I believe that everyone has their time of suffering. I do not like it that these people suffer; but we have our philanthropists, our charities. I myself lost a father and I struggled for quite some time as I supported the rebellion while trying to financially support my family."


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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDude View Post
    First, even if they make the wrong choice of factory, it will still help the economy, as I have pointed out. Second, if you don't think yourself capable of making rational decisions you shouldn't be running for President. Third, I think the 18% unemployed in Santiago would disagree with you that these factories and jobs are unneeded.
    SO if there are three liqour factories and you build another that will help? It is this kind of wolly logic that explains why socialism will fail. you might as well say build it and they will come. Thre has tp be demand for the product or the factory will close unless you propose building loss making factories on purpose? A failure to understand simple economics is your parties failing.
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    I of course cast my vote for Bevan let the worker's rise!
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    As per my sentence, I cannot vote, however I would still like to express my support for Sr. Andonie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rudders10 View Post
    SO if there are three liqour factories and you build another that will help? It is this kind of wolly logic that explains why socialism will fail. you might as well say build it and they will come. Thre has tp be demand for the product or the factory will close unless you propose building loss making factories on purpose? A failure to understand simple economics is your parties failing.
    As I have pointed out, it will help the grain and glass producers to build a liqour factory, they will be able to pay more workers more money. This will create jobs so men can feed their families. Something you seem to care very little about. Though after all, they're only normal people.

    Of course, the question will not arise, since as president I will make sure the factories built are profitable.

    Quote Originally Posted by MastahCheef117 View Post
    "Putting words in my mouth will not help your argument, Senor.

    And I believe that everyone has their time of suffering. I do not like it that these people suffer; but we have our philanthropists, our charities. I myself lost a father and I struggled for quite some time as I supported the rebellion while trying to financially support my family."


    ~ Daniel Palomino
    Why shouldn't the government help to try and prevent suffering? The sufferers are Chileans, are they not? They pay their taxes, do they not? Don't they deserve something in return? If there is nothing for a Chilean in Chile, then what is the point in being a Chilean?
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    I can not refrain from commenting that Mr. Bevan bares an uncanny resemblance to the late Sérgio Gogołów. It is most eerie in fact. For factual proof, I am certain that there are photographs or portraits of him lying around.

    Now, to respond to the fascist: I have fought your kind for a large chunk of my life, and I will not allow you to regain your strength and destroy all that I hold dear. Furthermore, if you had so much public support: how come nobody cares about your "party"? Or the fact that so many rose up to destroy your dictatorship? Fact of the matter is, nobody likes your kind. I know that it is kind-of an uncomfortable truth for you, but that is reality. You produce sumptuous amounts of lies, but that does not make them true. Your lies will amount to nothing. You are a relic, and have no place in a modern society.

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    President: Carlos Andonie III

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    We have lived under Economic Control for years under the dictatorship. Change from a Liberal administration would be good.

    And I do not appreciate being called a Conservative. If I was Conservative, I would desire the status quo established under the dictatorship. I am a Liberale for desiring to remove the sanctions on our freedom.

    Andonie has my nominal support, if not official.
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    It is with great regret that I acknowledge Señor Tottenheim and myself as the only true remaining Conservadores, proudly standing together for the Frente Nacional. I would go so far as to compare our bravery to that of my brother, the hero; we, like him before us, stand with our values. For this bravery, we shall forever be remembered, immortalized in the epic novels and moving pictures. Alejandro has already earned his place; now we, Señor Tottenheim, must do the same.

    Obviously, no man can yet claim to stand beside us as a true Conservative; from the cowardly pandering and senseless babbling of Crazzio to the side-switching of all the rest, it is clear that unison cannot be currently achieved. Perhaps, some men worth the names that they bear shall see their errors, or new and true men shall rise up to replace them. It is hard to fight back the crushing depression and burning hatred that overtakes me when I think of what Nationalist Chile once was, and what it has been turned into.

    Obviously, I will support neither of the traitors vying for their symbolic office, void of power and yet overflowing with corruption. I am not a man of little experience or ill repute, but these snide cowards deserve not their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldCleric View Post
    Obviously, I will support neither of the traitors vying for their symbolic office, void of power and yet overflowing with corruption. I am not a man of little experience or ill repute, but these snide cowards deserve not their lives.

    Senator Hernan de Escovedo
    Would you mind elaborating that sentence senator Escovedo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldCleric View Post
    It is with great regret that I acknowledge Señor Tottenheim and myself as the only true remaining Conservadores, proudly standing together for the Frente Nacional. I would go so far as to compare our bravery to that of my brother, the hero; we, like him before us, stand with our values. For this bravery,o we shall forever be remembered, immortalized in the epic novels and moving pictures. Alejandro has already earned his place; now we, Señor Tottenheim, must do the same.

    Obviously, no man can yet claim to stand beside us as a true Conservative; from the cowardly pandering and senseless babbling of Crazzio to the side-switching of all the rest, it is clear that unison cannot be currently achieved. Perhaps, some men worth the names that they bear shall see their errors, or new and true men shall rise up to replace them. It is hard to fight back the crushing depression and burning hatred that overtakes me when I think of what Nationalist Chile once was, and what it has been turned into.

    Obviously, I will support neither of the traitors vying for their symbolic office, void of power and yet overflowing with corruption. I am not a man of little experience or ill repute, but these snide cowards deserve not their lives.

    Senator Hernan de Escovedo
    I welcome this hero of the nation into our congress. We are not alone, there are others and with you we have gathered enough support to run a candidate for next election!
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    "Senor Escovedo, when you declared that you and Tottenheim were the only Conservadores, you made an elementary mistake. You forgot that I was the last legitimate ruler of this country, being Acting-President after Victor Fuentes' disappearance. Apart from that, however, it is heartening to know that despite this anarchy there are still people who identify themselves as true Nationalists and Patriots."

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