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Treachery? Fuentes has chosen the best side for Chile. We will build a new Chile, a new society. A society of equality, fraternity and justice.
Therefore, I extend an offer of pardon to all Republicanos if it happens that the will of the people prevails in this three-way civil war. However, the Reactionaries are another matter altogether, they want to execute all of us or put us on sham-trials. I am of the opinion that they should all be put in a trial, their fate to be decided by the people.

- General Remedio Hakkihäälenin
 
Why bother with trials for them. Just shoot them and be done with it.

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No on second thoughts we shoud have trials. We will set up an independent panel of fellow communists who will look at each case on its merits. And then shoot them.

General Rios
 
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rudders10 said:
Why bother with trials for them. Just shoot them and be done with it.
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That is why your coup will fail, and Chile will rise again under strong, capable leadership (no offence towards Senor de Conti, whom I believe is a noble man). That you will not even hold a trial for your opponents speaks volumes on your character, and how your radical agenda will promote nothing but your own petty ambitions. This Republic must be reborn, free of such elements as yourself, and Renin, and Araya, and Andonie, and Roseno, safe from all these radical revolutionaries who sought to do nothing but expand their power.
 
rudders10 said:
Why bother with trials for them. Just shoot them and be done with it.
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"There is no need for you to plan yet, for you do not know the outcome. One does not know the hour of the Lord's coming, as Fernandez would say, and neither will you know if victory will happen. As it stands, your chances are rated at 4:1 against by a well-known bookmakers in Valparaiso. The chances of Fernandez's restoration succeeding are rated at 7:2, which is better odds than you are facing."

Severiano Miramontes
 
Ivir Baggins said:
"There is no need for you to plan yet, for you do not know the outcome. One does not know the hour of the Lord's coming, as Fernandez would say, and neither will you know if victory will happen. As it stands, your chances are rated at 4:1 against by a well-known bookmakers in Valparaiso. The chances of Fernandez's restoration succeeding are rated at 7:2, which is better odds than you are facing."

Severiano Miramontes
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I am well aware that this is no foregone conclusion, as I said earlier the fate of Chile is in the balance. There is no harm in planning ahead though. And as you will see, I have reconsidered on my plan now and am suggesting trials. One of my fellow travellers has suggested a unique way to discover guilt. We load the suspected up with stones and throw them into a lake. If they float they are obviously guilty and fueled by sorcerous powers and must be shot. If they sink well then they are innocent.

General Rios
 
Ivir Baggins said:
"There is no need for you to plan yet, for you do not know the outcome. One does not know the hour of the Lord's coming, as Fernandez would say, and neither will you know if victory will happen. As it stands, your chances are rated at 4:1 against by a well-known bookmakers in Valparaiso. The chances of Fernandez's restoration succeeding are rated at 7:2, which is better odds than you are facing."

Severiano Miramontes
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Fernandez's restoration? I'm sorry but have you fallen all the way down to the bottom of the pit and want to install an absolute monarchy now? Just like Roseno? Though I guess it is not that surprising, the Reactionaries have always wanted the Spanish tyranny and oppression back.

- General Remedio Hakkihäälenin
 
Ivir Baggins said:
"Also, Hakkihäälenin, I refer to his restoration of stability, freedom, and dignity, which your actions would prevent."

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Freedom? Pffht. Lies and propaganda. You will accomplish nothing more than turning Chile into an oppressive dictatorship. A dictatorship which will certainly look back to Roseno's Empire for inspiration. After all, you do have a Roseno on your side.

- General Remedio Hakkihäälenin
 
Ivir Baggins said:
"What if they weigh the same as a duck, Rios?

"Also, Hakkihäälenin, I refer to his restoration of stability, freedom, and dignity, which your actions would prevent."

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If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and weighs the same as a duck then it probably is a duck Senor.
 
Dyranum said:
Freedom? Pffht. Lies and propaganda. You will accomplish nothing more than turning Chile into an oppressive dictatorship. A dictatorship which will certainly look back to Roseno's Empire for inspiration. After all, you do have a Roseno on your side.

- General Remedio Hakkihäälenin
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"If our freedom is lies and propaganda, then so is yours. Your language is also revealing. You claim our freedom is a lie, yet you do not contest our promise to restore stability and dignity to Chile, because you yourself do not consider those worthy aims."

Severiano Miramontes
 
The dignity of a nation as an abstract concept, is a euphemism for the power of the aristocracy. The dignity that matters is the dignity of human beings, people of all countries and of no country. You can continue to pump gold and blood into the causes of Church and Fatherland, but those are meaningless institutions created as edifices of the power of the bosses, the power of the parasitic overclass that drains the lifeblood of the worker.
 
Ivir Baggins said:
"If our freedom is lies and propaganda, then so is yours. Your language is also revealing. You claim our freedom is a lie, yet you do not contest our promise to restore stability and dignity to Chile, because you yourself do not consider those worthy aims."

Severiano Miramontes
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I did not bring those claims up as they were just as silly, but if you insist. You will not succeed in bringing stability to Chile. The fact that far from the whole country supports you is evidence enough that it will be just as if not more unstable than the Third Republic.

Also, dignity? Pffht. What kind of a fantasy goal is that? It can be interpreted in so many ways, and many of them are just irrelevant to the well-being of Chile. And besides, who has robbed Chile of its "dignity"? (whatever that means)

- General Remedio Hakkihäälenin
 
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The 1898-1899 Civil War, Part 1: Revenge of the Red Guard​
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The Fifth Chilean Civil War began with a disagreement between the President and the Army Chief of Staff. General Rios believed that the left should be more heavily represented in the military "to prevent the possibility of a right-wing coup," while President De Conti disagreed, "there is more threat of a coup from the revolutionary left than the conservative right." As the crisis exploded and the military establishment lined up in part behind each, punctuated and aggravated by the war with Argentina, allegations of a leftist coup from the right grew stronger and stronger, with General Sebastian Hidalgo exposing correspondence in which Rios allegedly tried to recruit him in a Communist plot. Rios vehemently denied the accusations of conspiracy and continued to claim that the real threat of coup was from the right, not the left. Negotiations between the President and the Chief of Staff broke down several times, and on the eve of the passage of an act of the Congreso to force the issue in the President's favor, Rios finally sprung into action.

In a small boardroom in Vina Del Mar, Rios called together his two co-conspirators: General Fuentes of the Metropolitan Army and General Hakkihäälenin of the 2nd Army of the Republic. Between them, the two men commanded nearly two-thirds of the military power of Chile, and both of their armies were stationed only a few miles away from the capital city of Santiago. They could, Rios reasoned, quickly spring into action and seize the capital and the centers of government before the remainder of the government had time to respond. It was a coup at the last minute, Rios acknowledged. "If this bill of the Congreso's is allowed to pass into law, then our chance will be lost forever. We can wait no longer."

Unbeknownst to Rios, less than ten miles away, in a similar boardroom in Santiago, Archbishop Fernandez, the minister of foreign affairs, had called together a meeting of the other cabinet ministers: Crazzio of the Interior, De Santa Rosa of the Treasury, and Saez of the Defense Ministry. Generals Hidalgo and De Porto, Fernandez said, would back the cabal in their plot to overthrow the Republic. They needed only wait for the President's word to begin the coup. As the hour grew later and later, the fire in the room dwindling to cinders, Fernandez finally gave the go-ahead orders without De Conti having ever appeared at the meeting. "It seems the President will not be joining us this evening," Fernandez admitted, "but we must proceed anyway. We can wait no longer."

And thus two coups began, each justifying itself by the other's existence. Between the two sides, none in the mainland remained loyal to the status quo government. As a fleeing President De Conti remarked when he heard of both coups, "The Republic has already fallen. The only question that remains is who will rule over the ashes."

The ministers of state, under Fernandez, had the strongest claim to legitimacy from the beginning, and in the early days of the fighting were able to present themselves as the defenders of the status quo government, commanding the loyalty of the capital guard and hastily mobilized reserves and militias from across the country. This meant comparatively little, however, when 150,000 soldiers of Rios' revolutionary rojos descended on Santiago in late July. The 36,000-man capital guard was supplemented by a nominal 18,000 volunteers from the city itself, untrained but eager to fight. Minister of the Interior and steel magnate Caitan Crazzio was seen have opened the armories personally, distributing weapons to any who pledged to fight the "red menace" from the footsteps of his factory. When Fuentes and Hakkihäälenin fell on the city in late June, this 54,000 man force, though sorely outnumbered, managed to hold out long enough for the nearby General De Porto to relieve them, and later in the battle still General Hidalgo, fresh from his occupation of Buenos Aires.

Though the nationalist forces achieved numerical parity with the communists in early July with Hidalgo's arrival, the equality in numbers did little good. Many of the nationalist reinforcements arriving in the city were units that either had not yet replenished their ranks from the fighting in Argentina or else were conscripts or volunteers. The 1st Battle of Santiago of the 5th Chilean Civil War lasted nearly two months, with as many as 15,000 total casualties sustained each day as Hakkihäälenin bombarded the city and Fuentes flanked and charged defensive line after defensive line. Finally, on August 21st, Hidalgo and De Porto were forced to retreat from the city in a disorderly rout, the "provisional government" of the Republic fleeing with them. The entire Nationalist force in Santiago, once more than 130,000, had been reduced to fewer than 40,000 effective soldiers by the battle. The Communists had sustained even steeper casualties, their 150,000 now reduced to only 21,000, though they had retained their organization and morale through the entire gauntlet. The wounded capital guard remained in Santiago, vowing to fight the reds street by street, forcing Rios' supporters to move through the city of Santiago slowly even as they kept a hawk-eyed watch for the nationalist's return. Though few in number, the Communists would hold the city for the rest of the year.

Hidalgo, leading an army of 30,000 fresh conscripts and his own artillery, launched a counterattack on the Communists in early September - the effort ended in another nationalist rout, with 16,000 nationalist dead and wounded to only 8,000 rojos. As spring gave way to summer, the capital guard send a desperate communique to Rios in late November that Fuentes had nearly reached La Moneda and that they could no longer defend the city. De Porto launched another desperate attack against the Communists in response, and again the Communists beat him back, De Porto retreating from Santiago on December 16th with hardly an army to speak of. On December 23rd, a battle-weary capital guard finally offered their surrender to Hakkihäälenin, who accepted the surrender of the city on the steps of La Moneda, declaring national liberation on Christmas Day, 1898.

Even so, the Nationalists were not about to surrender. "He may hold the capital," Archbishop Fernandez famously declared from Vina Del Mar, just ten miles from Santiago's city limits, "but he does not hold the will of the Chilean people." The nationalists vowed to continue fighting even as Hakkihäälenin, surrounded by greatly superior numbers of nationalist enemies, declared the People's Republic of Chile.


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Just hold on. More to come - war isn't over yet.
 
Lets see how long the Peoples Republic of Chile while it only remains the Peoples Republic of the Capital.

For all we know, The Republicans will be able to sweep in after all the chaos and restore order.
 
To the People of Chile!​

Great people of Chile! Soldiers, housewives, businessmen and laborers!

The Communists have claimed Santiago. Through the best efforts of myself and General De Porto, the capital - and with it, La Moneda - has fallen at the hands of these evil left-wing men who preach equality and liberty and yet impose tyrannical government. They have already spilled the blood of a hundred-thousand Chileans.

However, I will tell you this. We shall not flag, nor shall we fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in Santiago, we shall fight in Valparaíso, we shall fight in on the seas and oceans of the Pacific, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the soldiers of Chile; we shall defend our Liberty, our Chile, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets; we shall fight in the hills... we shall never surrender! And if, which I do not for a moment believe, this nation and the people of Chile were subjugated and starving at the hands of the radicals, then our allies across the seas and hills, guarded by their love for democracy and liberty for the people, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the people of Chile, with all their power and might, steps forth to the rescue of their noble liberators.

- Gen. Sebastian Hidalgo
 
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zagoroth said:
Lets see how long the Peoples Republic of Chile while it only remains the Peoples Republic of the Capital.

For all we know, The Republicans will be able to sweep in after all the chaos and restore order.
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Who says they wont fight you guys first General De Porto.
 
Because that would be tactically pointless. It makes more sense to let the Communistas and the Rightists wear themselves out.
 
We will never surrender. We will never step down. We are the legitimate government of Chile, the government the Chilean people chose. We will win this war, and the wretched red menace will be wiped away from Chile once and for all. Thousands of lives will be lost in the process. But we will always remember the blood that was sacrificed during this great divide, we will always remember those who fell defending Chile from slavery and tyranny. When we win this war, we will create a new nation, one that will rise from the ashes of the old, and Chile will enter an age of unprecedented prosperity and unity.
 
Dyranum said:
Treachery? Fuentes has chosen the best side for Chile. We will build a new Chile, a new society. A society of equality, fraternity and justice.
Therefore, I extend an offer of pardon to all Republicanos if it happens that the will of the people prevails in this three-way civil war. However, the Reactionaries are another matter altogether, they want to execute all of us or put us on sham-trials. I am of the opinion that they should all be put in a trial, their fate to be decided by the people.

- General Remedio Hakkihäälenin
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None of us Nacionales have threatened to execute any left-wing members. For those that have taken up arms in this rebellion, we will put to trial.

- Gen. Sebastian Hidalgo
 
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