Shadow of the Andes - An Interactive Chilean AAR

**Seek75** · 31-01-2012 00:00

((I love how we gave command of the Canal Zone to a mummy. I mean, ya, it probably won't see a whole lot of conflict, but...still.))

**LeeroyJenkins** · 31-01-2012 00:02

Err, I mean no disrespect to Santa Rosa, I actually respect him much more than most Republicanos due to his bipartisanship and his leadership of the republic but......don't you think he may be a bit old for the position?

**Riccardo93** · 31-01-2012 00:08

((Maybe elderly, heroic (i.e. Hero of the Republic), or some quite possibly uncommonly young...))

I thank you for your kind words, Senor Juarez, but I do believe that this position is largely an honourary, and get-out-of-my-hair, position. The Canal Zone has, thus far, been fairly well run (even with, to use Weismuellers phraseology, 'Germanista'), so I believe that all I'll have to do is manage some supply issues, resolve petty disputes (something I've managed fairly well to do), and build up more defences.

**Red Cesar** · 31-01-2012 00:12

"I will accept my role as commander of the reserve calvary army, and hope to serve the citizens of Chile well."

-Comrade Armando Renin

**thekinguter** · 31-01-2012 01:05

Roberto Matta, chilean cardinal and former archbishop of Santiago, dies at the age of 75.

While his succesor has not yet been determined by the Holy See, a prominent bishop is made everyday more notorious by his approach to politics (something unusual for Chilean politics). The Holy See is considering appointing him for the position of Archbishop of Santiago, the single most powerful ecclesiastical position in Chile. While during the colonial era the archbishop had notorious influence and power, the times of the republic had seen the archbishops' power decay. It was a rather different man, this bishop of Valparaiso, who was often seen having dinner with big shot politicians and CEOs. The Holy See had a special interest in Chile, and felt it's chilean flock was drifting away from God and instead was getting atheist and socialist with the years.

The ecclesiastical authority in charge of appointing the new archbishop of Chile was contemplating this man's file:

Name: Jaime Fernandez
Occupation: Bishop of Valparaiso
Background: Born of a middle class family, he is of common birth and is very ambitious.

**OConner** · 31-01-2012 01:10

Character: Father Diego Zarenta
Born: 1856
Party: Independent

Bio: Father Zarenta was born into a middle class family of Chilean farmers. As a boy he had endless questions about god and participated wholeheartedly in the services. When both of his parents were killed during the Second Civil War, the church took him in. He was a fighter against corruption within the church, and after he served as an army chaplain during the Chilean-Argenten war, and again in the civil war, he became a devout pacifist. He took no sides, helping all solders regardless of their affiliation, and earned a reputation for bravery and kindness. He has little interest in politics, although he dislikes the Communistas for their attacks on the church. His flock know him as a quiet, kind, loving man, who has his own interpretation of the Bible.

**zagoroth** · 31-01-2012 01:16

(Im really pissed, I was writing a story and when I clicked backspace it turned the page back...)

Basically, guy gets up to a scene much like his dream. 11 other people join him...

"The battle is over. The Liberales have all but been exterminated. But the war is not finished. There are pockets of those who respect freedom still alive, we must find these pockets for the protection of the future of Chile"

a man speaks up, "Where to first"

"There is a small town on the outskirts of Antofogasta. A Widower, her son and daughter of 18 and 24. The father died in the Revolution, we must get to these people first. The lady looks to petition for a new Liberalism, devoid of the radicalism of the past"

"We must make haste, before others of different designs reach them first".

**Syriana** · 31-01-2012 01:27

((What with this sudden influx of religious characters, it looks like Rogov proposed Acción Católica a few decades too early.))

**Red Cesar** · 31-01-2012 01:30

((The church going to attempt to seize control in a moderate socialist Chile? Woah, that'd be kinda a cool coup. Putting the religious figure at the head of your government….hope I haven't sparked too many lightbulbs with that idea

))

**thekinguter** · 31-01-2012 01:46

Originally Posted by Red Cesar

((The church going to attempt to seize control in a moderate socialist Chile? Woah, that'd be kinda a cool coup. Putting the religious figure at the head of your government….hope I haven't sparked too many lightbulbs with that idea

))

((Actually I'm going to play as an ex-clergy character. I'm just using these 5 years where im disenfranchised to build up a backstory))

Originally Posted by OConner

Character: Reverend Diego Zarenta
Born: 1856
Party: Independent

((Chile is catholic, so I doubt "reverend" would serve. Name him "father" or "bishop" or something

))

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OOC:

ThunderHawk, can you care to explain how did you do the civil war thing ingame? I'm not doubting the results, I'm just curious as how was it done

**lordvagrant** · 31-01-2012 01:55

((I think part of our problem with getting social reforms is that we put through too many political reforms. Since the pops have the political reforms they want, they will be losing militancy from them. Left unfilled but enabled, they would have made it easier for social reform.

Alternatively we could declare war on Sokoto and make outrageous demands before caving in with a white peace.))

**thekinguter** · 31-01-2012 01:59

((Talking about Sokoto.. now that we have machine guns we might have an opportunity to colonize, being a Great Power and all.. ))

Originally Posted by Rogov

(( We are the Upper House. The Lower House are the NPC's. And as far as I know, besides waiting for the rising militancy to alter the ideology of the representatives in the Upper House, given that we have a very democratic society in Chile and already have the most social reform-demanding militancy inducing political reforms like all trade unions allowed, that besides waiting the most expedient way to change the composition of the lower house is in a coup.

See, this is what the Directory plotters didn't tell you about and maybe didn't know about, but even besides one's own initial demands for reform changes when one stages a coup, once the coup is finished and the new gov is in place, you are stuck with the lower house that is closest to your ideology. So, when Cesar didn't go more democratic with the Empire in the initial phase when he could have set whatever he wanted, it made it impossible to pass political reforms later the normal non-coup way as we had installed all these imperial croney NPC's during our revolution that were all hardline reactionary, blocking all reforms.

So, the directorate coup would have installed an anarcho-liberal lower house that would have prevented social reforms from getting through even if the regular house pre-coup had allowed them. ))

That was the plan all along. Glad you figured it out

**LeeroyJenkins** · 31-01-2012 02:35

So when are we moving on?

**ThunderHawk3** · 31-01-2012 02:40

Originally Posted by LeeroyJenkins

So when are we moving on?

Might be tomorrow, might be the day after. AHD comes out tomorrow, and I'm going to tinker around with the notion of converting before I update again. Until then, feel free to continue stating policies/intentions for the coming term. I still don't know what you all intend to do.

**LeeroyJenkins** · 31-01-2012 02:57

I would like to congragulate our presidente on creating what I believe to be a truly balanced and bipartisan military, I hope my ideas of a fair and balanced military complex had an influence on this descision.

**Riccardo93** · 31-01-2012 03:32

((What does AHD actually do? Since I really want to get Victoria 2, I want to know what this expansion/thing will do (obviously something to do with the American Civil War, but what else?)))

**Seek75** · 31-01-2012 03:41

((Well, there' a whole lot of stuff, and it's kind of hard to list all or even most of them here.))

**King50000** · 31-01-2012 04:23

((Except for Rivera, are there any non-socialist/communist Cabinet members?))

**zagoroth** · 31-01-2012 04:28

(And they accuse Liberales of political packing...)

The makeshift band happens upon a horse buggy winding down the road. They step in front and wave the driver. He steps up to the drive, pulling our his pistol, "You will take us to Antofogasta,at once". The men look wearily at their rag-tag leader, but put on brave faces

The driver dumfounded had nothing to do but let them on. He had foolishly believed the war was over.

**LeeroyJenkins** · 31-01-2012 04:30

Originally Posted by King50000

((Except for Rivera, are there any non-socialist/communist Cabinet members?))

((Don't think so, but my dreams of a politically diverse army has come true

))
EDIT: Yes actually Miramontes.

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