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Seek75 said:
((This is Chile though, not Ireland or New Zealand.

Not to argue your point or anything, just saying because frankly I hate it when people say "well in X they do Y..." when we're not in X.))
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((but this is not really chile either. It's a GAME ;) ))

Edit. I was only replying with examples to counter what I thought was a general statement of when coalitions can or can't be made in real life. If he was referring to chile especially then fair enough.
 
It truly saddens me to see the situation in Argentina. Revolutionaries are breaking and throwing away the chains of an oppressive military dictatorship - only to replace it with one whose beneficiaries are corrupt unionists and the almighty Party bureaucrats. Changing the rules of slavery isn't emancipation.

- Minister Lorenzo Subercaseaux
 
rudders10 said:
((but this is not really chile either. It's a GAME ;) ))

Edit. I was only replying with examples to counter what I thought was a general statement of when coalitions can or can't be made in real life. If he was referring to chile especially then fair enough.
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((But even in those countries, there isn't a coalition made after the election to decide who becomes president. You nominate a candidate or form a coalition before the election, if you think you should have formed a coalition but you didn't and you lose, well, you're SOL.))
 
blindgoose said:
((But even in those countries, there isn't a coalition made after the election to decide who becomes president. You nominate a candidate or form a coalition before the election, if you think you should have formed a coalition but you didn't and you lose, well, you're SOL.))
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((don't want to get into a deep convo about this. But in both those countries in their last elections coalitions were formed after negotiations after the elections. Not presidential but too determine power certainly. Am a kiwi living in Ireland :). Regardless as Ricardo said, thems the rules))
 
((It's not a presidential election example, but in the latest UK general election - which determines the Head of Government along with the composition of parliament - none of the parties entered the election with the intention of forming a coalition, but a coalition emerged after the election because none of the parties could claim an absolute majority. I figure this is a more apt model for our elections, since we're not just voting for a president but also for the party of power.))
 
Syriana said:
((It's not a presidential election example, but in the latest UK general election - which determines the Head of Government along with the composition of parliament - none of the parties entered the election with the intention of forming a coalition, but a coalition emerged after the election because none of the parties could claim an absolute majority. I figure this is a more apt model for our elections, since we're not just voting for a president but also for the party of power.))
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((that's what I said :) be interesting to see how this plays. Do all parties bar the top two drop out and re vote after 1st round?))
 
((How about we stop arguing over this and just go with it? TH said this is how it will work, so this is how it will work. Who cares if they did or do it in RL? This is a game.))
 
((Let's get on topic people))

Carlos Andonie, as you propose for us liberals to say NO to any coalition I wonder: Is this to make sure YOU get (re)elected? Because otherwise, you would stand no chance over the republicano candidates.. I am doubtful of your actions

Also I would like to tell you I find my views nearing those of Lorenzo's, and that's why I support him. No personal grudge against you.
 
Riccardo93 said:
I must air my concerns about these revolutionaries in Argentina; if they are so willing to launch a bloody war to overthrow the government of a foreign nation, what lengths will they go to here, in their homeland? I believe the president and the Congreso should condemn the actions of these murderers, and we should disown them as citizens of this Republic, if they continue their vile actions.

I am certain even the socialists and communists are willing to condemn these violent actions, even if they agree with the goals of this atrocious campaign.
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Senor Rosa,

Communistas in Chile are right to take a democratic approach to liberating the workers and bringing about much needed social reform. Here in Argentina however, "The People's Warriors" must strike quickly and decisively to topple a reactionary junta and restore prosperity and equality to the land. I urge Chile to aid us in this endeavor and to send her own sons to fight for justice in Argentina.

While my comrades in Chile have thus far taken rather passive methods to secure the rise of Communism, there can be no mistake... the Red cloud is growing and soon it shall darken the tallest peaks of the Andes. I hope Chileans in The Congreso can adopt a more leftist ideology, else this cloud may be forced to drown Santiago in a sea of blood.

--Barrio Bautista--

((hey guys how do you like the name "Barrio"? I was thinking of other ones but in the end I just stuck with it. I like Bautista though... powerful sounding :)))
 
"Comrade Bautista, I am grateful for your support, as is my People's Vanguard, but we must not ask for Chilean military personal to be placed on Argentinian soil. Their aims are counter to those of the revolution, and it will only bring pain and violence for the people of Argentina. Secondly, do not speak of Revolution now, for now is not the time when it must be carried out. We will continue to use social and political means to gain momentum in Chile, but we will not topple the government without the will of the people, nor if they remain true to the few democratic principles they hold."

-Comrade Armado Renin

((Barrio means neighborhood....sooo...and Bautista sounds an awful lot like Batista...))
 
An open question: How would the communists and FNT like to form a hawk coalition with the radical thinking folks of the Liberales Nuevos next election (5 years from now) to free our latin american/central-american neighboors from european imperialism and dictatorships?
 
blindgoose said:
((I believe he was referring to Fulgencio Batista, the dictator of Cuba overthrown by the M-26J. The first name isn't an actual Spanish name, as RC pointed out, it means neighborhood. Just go to behindthename.com and use their random name generator.))
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((ohhhhh... thinking about Fulgencio Batista was how I got Bautista. I will switch to another "B" name asap then. How does Benito sound?))
 
thekinguter said:
An open question: How would the communists and FNT like to form a hawk coalition with the radical thinking folks of the Liberales Nuevos next election (5 years from now) to free our latin american/central-american neighboors from european imperialism and dictatorships?
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"This coalition would need to be discussed more thoroughly and in detail before I can throw my support behind it."

-Comrade Armando Renin
 
cavebear3000 said:
((ohhhhh... thinking about Fulgencio Batista was how I got Bautista. I will switch to another "B" name asap then. How does Benito sound?))
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((I am sensing an unfortunate trend here. lol))

"Chile can no more liberate Latin America than a Moor ascend the Spanish throne. The liberation of the world is the job of the working-class. Joining with the LIberales to impose a different type of bourgeois rule would be an affront to our duty as socialistas and comunistas."

-Ferran Martí, Alcalde de Santiago
 
Red Cesar said:
"This coalition would need to be discussed more thoroughly and in detail before I can throw my support behind it."

-Comrade Armando Renin
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