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    "Why is it that you all assume that Silva must be made an example of? Last time I checked, it was Randy Dickhard who was involved in corruption scandals in the upper echelons of government."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivir Baggins View Post
    "Why is it that you all assume that Silva must be made an example of? Last time I checked, it was Randy Dickhard who was involved in corruption scandals in the upper echelons of government."

    Dr. Sebastian Montenegro
    Alejandro Silva has a monopoly over the media. Isnt the fact that a single man controlls most newspapers and radio stations a bad idea? And he siezed a public industry for himself without the authorization of anyone else but a madman. Sure, Randy Dickhard needs to be punished as well, but I believe Alejandro Silva is an urgent matter we must attend.

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    Im sorry i meant 1900 my mistake i first voted for Palomino and made a personnage at the first but my account was destroyed thats why i said i voted for badajoz im more conservative but i then turned liberal i agree with you on the new deal and employement
    Marshall You are notoriously quick in swinging your mood
    Skobie : Oh dear, Kaisersohaib is acting very sure of himself. I wonder what kind of monster we have released upon the world once he gets even more confidence.
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    It intends to re-employ and put more budget on the administration of the country i also say we should cut some taxes down
    Marshall You are notoriously quick in swinging your mood
    Skobie : Oh dear, Kaisersohaib is acting very sure of himself. I wonder what kind of monster we have released upon the world once he gets even more confidence.
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    [17:34:10] <Frymonmon> I'm 60 and I'm not graceful
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    I hereby declare to run as president in the next elections
    Marshall You are notoriously quick in swinging your mood
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    "I must say, for a prospective president, you have not made a particularly convincing entry onto the political scene. In matters of such importance as the presidency, it helps to have experience of how the country is actually run."

    Dr. Sebastian Montenegro
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    The 1931 Primaries: Dichotomy


    To absolutely no one's surprise, the Comunistas were not able to field a candidate for the 1931 primaries. The remnants of their defeated rebel armies had hardly been cleared from Chile's battlefields by the time of start of the campaign season, their leaders were dead or imprisoned, and their advocates scattered across the country. The Comunistas had essentially been forced underground by the defeat and did not even hold a convention that year. That left the three remaining parties: Liberales, FNT, and Republicano Nacional. Of the three parties, the Republicano Nacionales had the least controversial primaries. Again, Sebastian Montenegro put his name forward as the lone candidate for the party, but its membership numbers remained so perilously low that many doubted that the party would find its way onto the ballot.

    The Liberal primary had its own drama. While the incumbent President, Daniel Palomino, was the favorite to win both the nomination and the election, cracks in his war hero political credentials had begun to appear. Surging unemployment rates under his watch had rekindled the socialist movement, and continuing rumors of corruption in the treasury did little to improve his economic stance. By the campaign season, party elder Carlos Andonie felt confident enough to re-challenge his old rival for the nomination; the two famously promised to hold a radio broadcast debate before the convention. Dark horse Ramone de Guerro hedged his bets and challenged both Andonie and Palomino. Palomino, for his part, made good on his inaugural promises to tour the war-torn Chile, a display of sympathy that was concurrent with statements of support from most of the party establishment.

    The Socialist primaries took an unusual shift towards the dovish in 1931, as Alejandro Farìas emerged as the FNT frontrunner, preaching the evils of armed conflict and a promise to distance Chile from any future warfare as much as possible. Farìas' hardline socialist economic policies, promising widescale government intervention to offset rising unemployment, appealed strongly to the working man. The most controversial of Farìas' stump speech was his announced willingness to form a coalition with the Liberales. A series of moderate socialists and anti-coalition candidates emerged to oppose the frontrunner, but curiously all, like him, were anti-war.


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    Liberales Candidate: ((Liberal/Radical, In Opposition))

    Carlos Andonie III ((rudders10)) - Pro-Military/Secularism/Laissez-Faire/Free Trade/Full Citizenship [1+2+2+1+2=8]

    Daniel Palomino ((MastahCheef117)) - Anti-Military/Secularism/Laissez-Faire/Free Trade/Full Citizenship [2+2+2+1+2=9]

    Ramone de Guerro ((Kaioo)) - Pro-Military/Pluralism/Interventionism/Free Trade/Full Citizenship [1+1+1+1+2=6]

    FNT Candidates: ((Socialist))

    Antonia Zepeda ((thekinguter)) - Pacifism/Secularism/Interventionism/Protectionism/Limited Citizenship [3+2+1+0+1=7]

    Alejandro Farìas ((viola)) - Pacifism/Secularism/State Capitalism/Free Trade/Full Citizenship [3+2+0+1+2=8]

    Republicano Nacional Candidates: ((Conservative/Reactionary/Fascist, In Opposition))

    Sebastian Montenegro ((Ivir Baggins)) - Pro-Military/Secularism/State Capitalism/Protectionism/Full Citizenship [1+2+0+0+2=5]

    Independent Candidates:
    Miguel Ángel del Alvarado ((Kaisersohaib)) -- Pro-Military/Secularism/Interventionism/Protectionism/Full Citizenship [1+2+1+0+2=6]


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    As always, let me know if I've screwed something up or missed someone's candidacy. PM me your platform if I'm missing it. Thekinguter, I didn't know which of your characters you were running as, so I put you down as Tottenheim. Let me know if it was someone else. Kaisersohaib, I missing your platform and the party you're running on, so I have you down as an independent. That means you won't be on the ballot unless you secure a coalition candidacy. Also, don't triple post.

    I'm delaying voting on the bills that have been put forward until the Presidential election.

    Here a sample ballots below.

    Party: Liberales
    Candidate: Andonie/Palomino/De Guerro
    Coalition: With Republicanos Nacionales/Comunistas/FNT/Alvarado/No Coalition
    Coalition Candidate:

    Party: FNT
    Candidate: Tottenheim/Farìas
    Coalition: With Liberales/Comunistas/Republicanos Nacionales/Alvarado/No Coalition
    Coalition Candidate:

    Party: Republicanos Nacionales
    Coalition: With Liberales/Comunistas/FNT/Alvarado/No Coalition
    Coalition Candidate:

    I'll give this two days to vote, ending 10 AM PDT on the 9th.
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    Now is the time for unity, for strong leadership, and to put aside our partisanship under the leadership of Daniel Palomino. He led us through the Civil War and has already shown promise in combating this great Depression. Under this grand union of all Chileans, we will regain our economic might!
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    "I must urge you to reconsider on voting for Palomino, whose Laissez-faire dealings on economics have not aided our industry in any manner, and his cutting of the military led to a rise in unemployment, combining with the lack of revival on the industry, and our economy is stagnant. We must save the economy, the industry, and destroy unemployment, and to do so we can not live in the past with these laissez-faire ideals. Please, do what is right for the people of Chile." - Carlos Ramone de Guerro

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    Palomino can save us from this economic downturn. Only free trade, laissez faire and Capitalism can be the answer. The market will sort itself out. We won the war with the Communists, we can't disgrace our victory by going Socialist now.
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    Our economy has not yet been time to improve; we have just only gotten out of a brutal civil war, and has not yet had time to process and comprehend the depth of what has happened. After a year or so, the market will react and the economy should begin to recover, barring moves towards socialist economic policy by other nations bringing down the world market.

    The only way the State can possibly save the economy, and our people with it, is to get out of the way and the market fix itself.
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    I am Antonia Zepeda, first female candidate for the presidency.

    Please for one moment forget policy and start taljing about the plans each candidate has for Chile. Also I feel kind of ignored by the media in the last news report.

    How are the bills going?
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