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marty99 said:
But cursed wolves should never ever be in a game. It means that in some cases through no fault of their own one pack is destined to lose even though they might play a perfect game. They could have all their members sold out to the other pack on day 1 potentially. It goes a little beyond "a slight hint of imbalanced" but yeah it should just be marked as baddies win for the sake of simplicity.
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The cursed wolf caused his entire pack to jump to the other pack, so this is a little different from the scenario you outlined.

Still seriously imbalancing, but we already complained about that at the time. It's a baddie win.
 
johho888 said:
Which is why counting "wins" for WW Bigs is a bit pointless since not all games are really possible for you to win.
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Ah, so that's why we don't have a Big Hall of Fame anymore...
 
johho888 said:
We've had loads of games like that, some of them were fun to play in, some were fun to revel in magnitude of the disaster afterwards, some where just boring, some ended before they got started and some were just plain disasters.

Which is why counting "wins" for WW Bigs is a bit pointless since not all games are really possible for you to win. For Lites you can actually use "wins" to see who is good at it.
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True. Although we should still do our best to avoid such games, generally. They're fun occasionally but they'll happen eventually even when we try to stop them so that's fine. Although it's easy for me to criticise in hindsight.
 
marty99 said:
But cursed wolves should never ever be in a game. It means that in some cases through no fault of their own one pack is destined to lose even though they might play a perfect game. They could have all their members sold out to the other pack on day 1 potentially. It goes a little beyond "a slight hint of imbalanced" but yeah it should just be marked as baddies win for the sake of simplicity.
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marty99 said:
I knew randy was the sorc as well, fucking Pjnsln you are going to die so much...

Wait, really a thir pack? That's fucking bullshit. May as well just spit in our eyes and rub your cock in our faces eURo. And ues I am quite drunk.
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:mellow:
 
madchemist said:
The cursed wolf caused his entire pack to jump to the other pack, so this is a little different from the scenario you outlined.

Still seriously imbalancing, but we already complained about that at the time. It's a baddie win.
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Well the reason I was unsure is that CV was marked as 'GM Fail - baddie win'; in that game there was a hunter role which apparently made all living unscanned villagers cultists when the GA died---all scanned villagers died. All the newly made cultists then promptly died---I assume it was because all wolves were dead---and the hunter won by being last man standing. A cursed wolf isn't as bad as that, but I did find it worse than many other things which is why I asked you guys.

It seems consensus is that Wolfton Abbey is just baddie win and that there should be no mention of the village not being defeated in Angry Men; unless somebody is really against that I will mark those two games as plain baddie wins.
 
marty99 said:
For comparison, mine is 50 and it will regularly fill up completely in a single busy day.
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I've instances where that thing filled up multiple times per hour in certain stages of certain games. The alliance of magicians comes across as an especially egregious example ..
 
randakar said:
I've instances where that thing filled up multiple times per hour in certain stages of certain games. The alliance of magicians comes across as an especially egregious example ..
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I don't know why people kept sending us pms that game. :unsure:
 
Rovsea said:
You don't speak for me in this case. I say that I need my first Johho game, since anything do endorsed by Marty must be good. :p
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Johho is the gold standard of werewolf GM's.
Every GM aspires to be as good as he is. Including, I might add, Marty. :D

johho888 said:
We've had loads of games like that, some of them were fun to play in, some were fun to revel in magnitude of the disaster afterwards, some where just boring, some ended before they got started and some were just plain disasters.
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I second that. Some of them are quite memerable, too. Like that game that ended with a 7-way tie induced by a role called "the colonel" ..

marty99 said:
I don't know why people kept sending us pms that game. :unsure:
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Yeah, I wonder why... :D

And you gotta admit my exit from that game really was worthy of a magician. :D
 
Everybody seems to agree that both Angry Men and Wolfton Abbey were normal baddie wins, so they have been listed as such.


[thread=203398]Werewolf -: The Game (Abandoned)[/thread]
[thread=203957]Werewolf II: The Other Game (goodies win)[/thread]
Werewolf III: Apocalypse Howl (baddies win)
Werewolf IV: A Post Apocalyptic Adventure (baddies win)
[thread=215795]Werewolf V: Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? (baddies win)[/thread]
Werewolf VI: Return to Castle Wolfenstein (goodies win)
Werewolf VII: Veni, Vidi, Vicious (baddies win)
Werewolf VIII: The Vinland Werewolves (goodies win)
[thread=238354]Werewolf IX: Dances With Wolves (baddies win)[/thread]
Werewolf X: In space no one can hear you scream (The Phoenix wins)
[thread=246884]Werewolf XI: The Return (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=250530]Werewolf XII: Triskaidekaphobia (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=257805]Werewolf XIII: The Siege of Rhodos (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=260350]Werewolf XIV: The Curse of the Werepenguin (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=264589]Werewolf XV: The Werenuts of Lupin Hill (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=265686]Werewolf XVI: Rise of the Demon Clan (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=265695]Werewolf XVII: Hound of the Baskervilles (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=268648]Werewolf XVIII: The Iceland Vikings (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=268774]Werewolf XIX: The Battle of the Bulge (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=269701]Werewolf XX: Return of the Werepenguin (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=272966] Werewolf XXI: Casino Royale (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=275603]Werewolf XXII: Save das boot (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=277704]Werewolf XXIII: Return of the Wolf (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=282349]Werewolf XXIV: East, towards Ukraine (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=292629]Werewolf XXV: The Wolves of Sherwood (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=296644]Werewolf XXVI: Cosa Nostra (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=300984]Werewolf XXVII: Villagers Strike Back (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=301009]Werewolf XXVIII: Lycanthropic Wars (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=307206]Werewolf XXIX: And did those paws... (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=310811]Werewolf XXX: Werepenguin: Mutation (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=203957]Werewolf XXX Rouge: Cute Werewolf Inside (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=315287] Werewolf XXXI: You can't take the sky from me (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=317781]Werewolf XXXII The Lost Colony (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=320817]Werewolf XXXIII: The Island of Dr. Moreau (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=323859]Werewolf XXXIV: Le Morte d'Arthur (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=326270]Werewolf XXXV: Whodunnit (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=329939]Werewolf XXXVI: Warthogs School of Witchcraft & Wizardry (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=333264]Werewolf XXXVII: The Prince (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=336925]Werewolf XXXVIII The Cursed Mist (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=340492]Werewolf XXXIX:Cavemen (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=342972]Werewolf XL: Tombstone (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=345669]Werewolf XLI: Oh no! More werewolves! (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=348350]Werewolf XLII: WereWolf Entertainment presents: WolfaMania XLII (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=352331]Werewolf XLIII: Escape from Monkey Island (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=355403]Werewolf XLIV: 17th Communist Party Congress (1934) (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=360452]Werewolf XLV: The Games of the XXVII Olympiad (2000) (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=362698]Werewolf XLVI: Sex Kittens Go to College (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=364650]Werewolf XLVII: Austin Powah! (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=366202]Werewolf XLIX The Werewolf's Revenge (AKA. The Game of WEREWOLF) (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=368419]Werewolf L: The Werenuts of Lupin Hill II - Return of the Werenuts (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=370948]Werewolf LI: Circus Lupus (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=373325]Werewolf LII: The Reign of Terror (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=375758]Werewolf LIII: The Masters of Rome (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=377876]Werewolf LIV: The rise of Bal (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=379256]Werewolf LV: The Robbery of the Ohio & Mississippi Railroad (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=381970]Werewolf LVI: The battle of Kharkov (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=383522]Werewolf LVII: Welcome to Castle Wolfenstein (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=385403]Werewolf LVIII: It's a Werewolf Christmas (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=388263]Werewolf LIX: The Salem Witch Trials (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=390898]Werewolf LX: The Great Cook-off (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=393795]Werewolf LXI: Dungeons and Dragons (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=395860]Werewolf LXII: Wolf Totem (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=398184]Werewolf LXIII: van Helsings Retirement Party (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=399808]Werewolf LXIV: When Zombie Games Collide (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=401463]Werewolf LXV: The Werewolf Within (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=403793]Werewolf LXVI: Werewolves On Holiday (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=406282]Werewolf LXVII: Flight 67 (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=408258]Werewolf LXVIII: RAAAAAAID!!! (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=411203]Werewolf LXIX: Operation Valkyrie (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=412573]Werewolf LXX: Mushroom Kingdom (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=414358]Werewolf LXXI: Dies Iræ (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=421309]Werewolf LXXII: 007 (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=426368]Werewolf LXXIII: Coruscant Nights (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=433515]Werewolf LXXIV: The Quest for the Holy Grail (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=437610]Werewolf LXXV: Werewolf Rules (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=442088]Werewolf ----: Schools Out (Abondoned)[/thread]
[thread=444709]Werewolf LXXVII : Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=447134]Werewolf LXXVIII: The Paradox Forums (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=451888]Werewolf LXXIX: Chaos on Monster Island! (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=456721]Werewolf LXXX: Harry Potter and the Game of Werewolf (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=458926]Werewolf LXXXI: Doom of the WereYak, Part Three: Younghusband, 1904 (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=460800]Werewolf LXXXII: Königsberg (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=463391]Werewolf LXXXIII: No Dice (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=466249]Werewolf LXXXIV: Aces of the Pacific (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=469195]Werewolf LXXXV: The War to End All Wars (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=472182]Werewolf LXXXVI: Fierce Creatures (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=474296]Werewolf LXXXVII: A post-nuclear Werewolf game (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=476466]Werewolf LXXXVIII The Shadow Wars (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=478654]Werewolf LXXXIX: Werewolf Air (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=482290]Werewolf XC: The Racoon Police Department (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=485259]Werewolf XCI Simple is as Simple Does (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=488106]Werewolf XCII: The Vampire Civil War (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=490647]Werewolf XCIII: Defense of the Ancients (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=495703]Werewolf XCIV: The Zeroth Law (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=498961]Werewolf XCV, Doom of the WereYak 4: Urartu, 2348 B.C. (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=502226]Werewolf XCVI: The Ghosts of the Wolves (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=506188]Werewolf XCVII: LOST, The Others (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=508877]Werewolf XCVIII: Misc Russian Village (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=510293]Werewolf XCIX: The Seer Academy (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=514270]Werewolf C: World in Conflict 2050 (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=517653]Werewolf CI: It has babies (GM loses)[/thread]
[thread=521296]Werewolf CII: From the Files of Police Squad (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=525194]Werewolf CIII: Kleptocratic Overlords and the Worldwide Revolution (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=529269]Werewolf CIV: When the saints go marching in (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=533831]Werewolf CV: The Most Dangerous Game (GM Fail - baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=536331]Werewolf CVI: Misc Sci-Fi-Western Theme to the Rescue! (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=538693]Werewolf CVII: LZ-129 Hindenburg (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=541429]Werewolf CVIII: The Paradox StarLeague (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=545239]Werewolf CIX: Budget Crunch (mass suicide)[/thread]
[thread=548203]Werewolf CX: Do Cylons dream of Electric Sheep (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=552528]Werewolf CXI: Demons on a Spaceplane (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=555547]Werewolf CXII: Refugees (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=559475]Werewolf CXIII: The Springtime of Nations (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=562608]Werewolf CXIV: Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=564991]Werewolf CXV: The Spanish Armada (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=567897]Werewolf CXVI: The Inner Machinations of my Mind (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=570368]Werewolf CXVII: Dentistry School (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=572502]Werewolf CXVIII: The Airport (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=575983]Werewolf CXIX: Occupy Paradox (GM Loses)[/thread]
[thread=579144]Werewolf CXX: Shipwrecked (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=581630]Werewolf CXXI: Deus Omnia Vincit (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=590991]Werewolf CXXII: The Golden Horde (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=595356]Werewolf CXXIII: Murder Mystery (failed to start)[/thread]
[thread=597767]Werewolf CXXIV: The Game (Double Agents Win)[/thread]
[thread=601441]Werewolf CXXV: A Revolting Revolution (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=606011]Werewolf CXXVI: Werewolf Wagon Train (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=611170]Werewolf CXXVII: The First Crusade (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=616066]Werewolf CXXVIII: The Fox and The Werehound (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=620508]Werewolf CXXIX: Station 129 (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=623047]Werewolf CXXX: Golf, Surgery and Martinis - Werewolfs visiting M*A*S*H 4077 (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=626457]Werewolf CXXXI: Wedding Crashers, Korean Style! (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=630805]Werewolf CXXXII: Doom of the Wereyak 6: The Khenzimana Pass 1959 (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=635306]Werewolf CXXXIII: Justileaks (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=639193]Werewolf CXXXIV: He's not the Messiah - He's a very Naughty Werewolf! (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=644260]Werewolf CXXXV: Doomsday (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=650723]Werewolf CXXXVI: Doom of the Wereyak 7: They will never know it's Christmas, 1984 (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=656488]Werewolf CXXXVII: Convoy PQ17 to Murmansk (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=660325]Werewolf CXXXVIII: The Secret of the Swordfish (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=668642]Werewolf CXXXIX: Pining for the Fjords (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=674141]Werewolf CXL: Praetorian (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=678716]Werewolf CXLI: The Eurovision Song Contest (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=680907]Werewolf CXLII: Civilization! (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=685203]Werewolf CXLIII: League of Heroes of the Ancients (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=688545]Werewolf CXLIV: Old Gods (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=694105]Werewolf CXLV: The Alliance of Magicians (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=699241]Werewolf -----: Hong Kong (Abandoned)[/THREAD]
[thread=705081]Werewolf CXLVII: The Great Norse Reformation (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=718050]Werewolf CXLVIII: The Werewolf Apprentice (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=732631]Werewolf CXLIX: Dwarves! (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=737129]Werewolf CL: Railway Werewolf (mass suicide)[/thread]
[thread=746491]Werewolf CLI: I’m Your Villain! (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=751986]Werewolf CLII: Source of Evil (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=757590]Werewolf CLIII: Bloody, Bloody Sunday (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=762596]Werewolf CLIV: The French Revolution (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=765898]Werewolf ---: April Fool’s Edition (Abandoned)[/THREAD]
[thread=767290]Werewolf CLVI: Council of Trent (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=771306]Werewolf CLVII: Little-Big Werewolf in a Caribbean village (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=775252]Werewolf CLVIII: Infernal Affairs (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=780283]Werewolf CLIX: Harbingers from the East (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=784015]Werewolf CLX ▼▲▼ Wolfton Abbey (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=787603]Werewolf CLXI: Played by The Chessmaster (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=791100]Werewolf CLXII: 24/2 Angry Men (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=793254]Werewolf CLXIII: The Last Council of Mankind (baddies win)[/thread]
[thread=798735]Werewolf CLXIV: Iditarod Sled Dog Race (goodies win)[/thread]
[thread=801063]Werewolf CLXV: Spanish Kings (goodies win)[/thread]

[thread=803301]Werewolf CLXVI: Mob Rule (ongoing)[/thread]





Good vs Bad: the stats​
Last ten games:
Good 4 - 6 Evil
​

Total number of completed games: 165

The Phoenix: 1 (0,606%)
GM loses: 2 (1,21%)
Baddie wins: 81 (49,1%)
Goodie wins: 73 (44,2%)
Agent wins: 1 (0,606%)
Mass Suicide: 2 (1,21%)
Abandoned: 5 (3,03%)

Longest goodie streak: 6 games
Longest baddie streak: 8 games​
 
Cheers for that Wagonlitz, be good to have a look through the old games
 
Brovahkiin & EUROO7 will, pending a claim by Cliges, GM the next big game.

Euro out.
 
I came around
 
New game up.


Werewolf CLXXXIII: The Second Slesvig War (part II)​




The Setting​

[url=https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/werewolf-lite-cccvi-the-second-slesvig-war.804271/]The battle of Dybbøl, but there is still one part of Slesvig which is on Danish hands and that is the island of Als; just next to Dybbøl. It is now late June 1864 and the Danish government still rejects defeat, because they have naval supremacy and the Germans aren't able to get to any of the islands.

But there are rumors of German soldiers having infiltrated the ranks of the Danish soldiers defnding Als---this last bit of Danish Slesvig. There are even rumors of pro German Danes having joined the ranks of the soldiers defending Als. But neither of those rumors can be true, since no new soldiers have arrived since long before the battle of Dybbøl; but can you be sure...


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Why couldn't you just let this thread rest in peace?
 
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