[MEIOU:TD] v5.2-Specific Discussion Thread

[Kaoschan]

Corrected. added burgneisters to most of them. I hope the list are as accurate as possible.

Thank you very much gigau

Btw. would it be possible for the non-merchant Reichsstadt Goverment to recieve a small boost? As far as my historic knowlege gets me i think (please correct me if im wrong) the Reichststadte didn't have to pay taxes to the emperor which why they were so "popular".

How about adding a +5-10% national tax mod and +5-10% manpower mod to those Govermentforms? or some kind of compete chance? cause some of the reichstadte where quite successfull in getting much money from trading. During the time of around 1330 the current emperor Ludwig IV gave addtional rights to the Reichstadt Frankfurt because they helped him in his conflict with the pope due to the Bannstrahl and the Interdikt he recived.

Frankfurt was granted additional town-territory and prevented other Lords from building new castles at the river or from creating new tolls, all in favour for Frankfurt and it's help for the emperor.

so could all non-merchant reichstadte (yes i'm looking at you lübeck) get a smal bosst, pretty please?

[Gurkbert]

If this title is meant for the German Free Cities, you should use "Bürgermeister". Sry if you mean something else, but Google got 0 hits on burgneisters :P

I second this. While Burgneister does sound hilarious, i would also prefer the correct title " Bürgermeister" .

[Kaoschan]

A thing one of my friends told me.
He was able to form the HRE with Brandenburg around 1410.

He used the nationalism cb against everyone around him and annexed the states. he annexed 5 states and than released them to gain 5x +10IA for a reform.
Than after IA hits 0 he re-annexed them and released them again, repeating the progress. Due to the nationalism cb get got the HRE with resonable Infamy around 50

I know that this ia a vanilla "bug/feature" but yould it be possible to add a trigger or event in meiou to prevent this kind of gamey mechanic abuse?

1410 and HRE formed ... quite a break

[Zhangku]

The nationalism casus belli isn't available until way past that. And it sounds like he is lying because it takes ten years vassal annexation.

[Kaoschan]

The nationalism casus belli isn't available until way past that. And it sounds like he is lying because it takes ten years vassal annexation.

he did not vassal-annex .. he did the war-fullannex

[Zhangku]

Still he had to of cheated in order to get the nationalism casus belli. That's not available for at least 150 years the start date.

[Franconian]

Maybe he meant reconquest?

[Zhangku]

As far as I know Brandenburg only has two outside cores in this period.

[Tallfellow]

They actually only have one, and that's in Bohemia...

[Kaoschan]

As far as I know Brandenburg only has two outside cores in this period.

They actually only have one, and that's in Bohemia...

Thats not the main point. The main point is cheating IA by going to 0 and accumulating "possible" IA gains at hand to pass a reform.

[Tallfellow]

In my current game as Brandenburg it's 1450, and i "only" need another 4 reforms to make the HRE...

[Sihulm]

Suggestion RE cores by event: have tolerance as a MttH factor. It's possible to get even Heathen tolerance up to very high levels; rewarding, say, positive heretic / heathen tolerance and +3 heretic / heathen tolerance with a 0.8 factor each (multiplied together, that's a bit less than the bonus you get for the province being of the true faith rather than a heretic religion) seems like a sensible idea.

[Myrmidones]

The Cisalpine Republic (tag ITE) should be added as an exception in revolt_triggers.txt. Else you can get Italian Nationalists in North Italy, in the XIVth century.
Others that should probably go there:
-Jagiellon Empire (JGL)
-Almohad (ALM)
-North Sea Empire (NSE)
-Denmark-Norway (DAN)
-Poland Lithuania (PLC)
And probably some others.

[Ampersand]

That happened in one of my games once. Needless to say, I tag switched to them and conquered Italy as a Revolutionary Republic.

[jpcdk]

Don't know if this has been reported before but, the Papal States never get their claim on Italy variable calculated since their "monarch" death is handled in its own file which lacks the claim calculation. Only reason this matters is the Kingdom of God requires claims on Italy, also the decision still includes turning Papal States into a Latin Cultural Union, since Cultural Unions were removed from elsewhere this might need tweaking.

[Thrakesion]

Just noticed a minor error in the "Recover Greece" for the Byzantines. The mission grants a temporary claim on Grjirokastprzlywotkofsi (or whatever the Albanian province is called). The error is in the mission txt.file:

(...)
}
immediate = {
add_temp_claim = 144
add_temp_claim = 145
add_temp_claim = 1425
}
abort_effect = {
remove_temp_claim = 144
remove_temp_claim = 145
remove_temp_claim = 1425
}
effect = {
prestige = 0.2
}
}

It should be provinces 145 and 146.

[skinkyskating]

So I asked if Hindustan was formable in the possible formables thread no one was able to answer. After looking through the decisions folder I did not see form Hindustan deicision. Why was that decision removed and is there any way to have that decision put back?

[Frah]

If I recall correctly it is still there but it was renamed to the Gupta Empire

[skinkyskating]

If I recall correctly it is still there but it was renamed to the Gupta Empire

Gupta Empire is only for the Western and eastern Aryan, I played as Vaharinjay (sorry for the spelling). It does not give you core on all of India...i believe it does not give you core on all of india.

Shouldn't it be Ashoka's Empire I know the Guptas lasted longer but they did not unify all of India and it was more lose association of kingdoms

[gigau]

Unless i'm mistaken, the muslim equivalent of the Gupta Empire is the Mughals.

Formable nations should be ... or at least will be non-revolters (so to speak), indeed.

All other bug reports are sill being take in consideration... i'm just running after time (while still trying to play a little at times ).